Kinky Friedman to Make Announcement on Monday

Difference between Gilbert and Friedman (3.00 / 3)

(Under the assumption that Friedman drops out)

I could support Gilbert for Ag. Commissioner even though I have some problems with how he dropped out today. Gilbert has good ideas, and is a serious candidate, and a man who clearly cares about Texas.

Friedman is offensive and self-centered His disregard for the Democratic Party and endorsements ranging from Bush to Hutchison to Lamar Smith (unlike Schieffer who endorsed Bush out of friendship) shows he is more about himself and doing whatever he wants rather than being guided by political beliefs that I can get behind.

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by: DallasDavid @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 01:01:24 AM UTC

you said what I would have, only (0.00 / 0)

what you wrote was much nicer than what I was composing. Thank you.

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by: BeckyH @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 01:10:35 AM UTC

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Redistricting Board (4.33 / 3)

The most important thing to remember about Land Commissioner & Comptroller candidates is that the winners will sit on the Redistricting Board.My vote in each will depend on which candidate will stand up to GOP and fight for fair redistricting. PERIOD.

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by: susanc @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 01:21:05 AM UTC

2006 (0.00 / 0)

I cannot believe Kinky Friedman cares about the Democratic Party. Or the Republican Party. But I do wonder as someone told me Molly Ivins did at one point what is really going on. Is he serious or is he merely someone's Trojan Horse?

I guess everyone will find out on Monday. As for 2010, I suspect it will be a repeat of 2006.

My money's on his being a Trojan Horse. And my money's on his endorsing his hairdresser.

If there is a race in the primary, the Democrats can't go vote in the Republican primary. Which of course quite a few want to do.  

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by: Baby Snooks @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 02:18:48 AM UTC

Kinky for.... (2.00 / 1)

.... State House... State Senate...why the hell not? He doesn't need the money and it'd be fun to watch him actually have to know what to vote on.

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by: John McClelland @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 03:14:32 AM UTC

I hope Kinky doesn't go for Land Commish (3.67 / 3)

One thing I am sure about Hank - he is a committed Democrat that is willing to fight.  I know Ag makes sense for him, but I wish he would go for Land Commish solely for the Redistricting Board.  

I feel like if Kinky were to draw a redistricting map, every district would be shaped like a guy in a cowboy hat smoking a cigar.  And he'd charge $24.95 to look at it.

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by: Joe @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 03:22:52 AM UTC

Folks get it into your head: Kinky is a fucking idiot. EOM. (1.33 / 3)

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by: johncoby @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 03:43:01 AM UTC

por favor (2.50 / 2)

i know some folks that haven't spoken a word on BOR in months are proud to say very offensive things about Kinky.

i'll put my Dem credentials up against anyone on this fucking board. lots of folks pipe up and criticize others, but i don't see them stepping up to give money or even give a pinche vote (like for citizen sarah this week). Kinky felt that a repub like schieffer was the same as perry. if you didn't feel that same way...shame on you.

i've spent dozens of hours with Kinky and can tell you a few things:

Kinky is dead-set against the repub party domination in Texas...particularly perry.

Kinky wants our party to win in November.

Kinky is one of the most principled candidates i've ever worked for. bar none. any assertion to the contrary is rubbish. he loves Texas very much and wants Texas to succeed.

Kinky is wise to revisit his ideals about this cycle. period. every actual or possible candidate should be reviewing his/her plans for helping the ticket.

Kinky would never have entered the race for gov if a credible/non-repub candidate had shown interest.

love him or hate him, Kinky offers value to our ticket. it is unfortunate that not everyone can see that.

so flame away. bitch, moan and generally attack someone that loves Texas and is passionate about taking out Perry. the fact that his campaign is considering what is best for the ticket should be enough.  if it isn't enough for you...maybe you should re-evaluate your dedication to our party's prospects for november.


Please refer to KT's signature.

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by: colin @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 04:29:12 AM UTC

Repub? (0.00 / 0)

You mean Republicrat? That's what Bill White is by the way. A Republicrat. Seems the boys in the backroom in Austin like the Republicrats. If the Democrat wins by accident, well, they win.  They seem to prefer the Republican on the ticket. They must get a better deal. In the backroom anyway. For themselves.  

Kinky cannot win the primary or the election. There are too many minorities who simply will turn out to vote against him in the primary and the general election.  He brought that on himself by making a joke of his jokes. And answered Molly Ivins' comment which was a question, "Why the hell not?" She shouldn't have endorsed anyone and left it alone but I suppose since she made the suggestion she felt obligated to endorse Chris Bell simply because there was no one else she could have endorsed.  

The only person Kinky served in 2006 was Rick Perry. Which is probably the only person he will have served in 2010.

The only thing he has managed to do is wake up some people about politicians in general. "Hi, I'm Joe Schmoe, I don't like the current governor, so vote for me."

They proceed to make empty promises, all of them use the standard "more spending, less taxes" which only fools believe although there are quite a few fools in Texas in particular, and the only people who they serve once elected are the boys in the backrooms in both parties and the boys with the big bucks.

Richard Murray pointed out earlier this week that a recent survey indicated 47% of Americans no longer identify with a political party. It's probably more than that. The problem is we don't have good Independent candidates. So we are stuck with the proverbial lesser of two evils.  In most cases, they are pretty much the same evil.

I initially supported Kinky in 2006. I wouldn't give him the time of day in 2010.  He's just another bigoted good old boy.    

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by: Baby Snooks @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 12:20:14 PM UTC

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making my point for me (3.00 / 2)

you are exactly the type of person i'm thinking of that never writes a diary, never contributes information that might be useful to others, never offers anything positive.

if Jesus Christ, JFK or Ghandi rose from the dead to file for dog catcher in Victoria as a Dem you would be one of the first to attack and criticize them.

everytime we get anyone stepping up to rep our party at any level a handful of folks attack, attack, attack.

how many times have you been on the ballot? how many candidates have you recruited? how many campaigns do you volunteer on, big shot?

if you are so unhappy with the "backroom", kick down the door and change things. i know it is easier to hide and lob personal attacks. you are def not a Dem. stop pretending to be one just so you have cover to attack folks personally.

stop knocking Dems and start knocking on doors. that's how things change and get better.

Please refer to KT's signature.

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by: colin @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 16:45:59 PM UTC

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You must be peeking in the wrong window... (0.00 / 0)

I was planning to vote in the primary for Hank Gilbert. I wouldn't vote for dogcatcher in Victoria at this point.  Or Kinky Friedman for dogcatcher in Cut-and-Shoot.  

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by: Baby Snooks @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 18:49:41 PM UTC

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Colin, the problem with Kinky (0.00 / 0)

Isn't that he's not Democrat enough (though he's not), it's that he's a lightweight, c-list comedian who plays at politics in a way that seems unserious and erratic.

You can get as offended as you want to. I don't know the man, but merely being principled and wanting to end Republican domination isn't enough; I can find that at the end of any bar in town, and that guy can't get elected, either.

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by: Rahm McDaniel @ Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 17:35:49 PM UTC

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Schieffer the same as Perry? (0.00 / 0)

I have always evaluated Schieffer as more of a Democrat than Kinky Friedman.  Maybe they're both the same as Perry?...  But I doubt it - both are clearly better.

"Let us tenderly and kindly cherish therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write."  -  John Adams

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by: Michael Hurta @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 13:32:35 PM UTC

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both are better (0.00 / 0)

i agree. i signed on with kinky to make sure that schieffer wouldn't be the nominee...but you are right, either would be better.

Please refer to KT's signature.

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by: colin @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 16:34:30 PM UTC

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Still waiting for John Sharp (0.00 / 0)

Appears both Gilbert and Kinky are saving the Lt. Governor spot for you. Accept your fate. KBH is going down in flames, no US Senate race in either 2010 or 2011.

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by: ssuits @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 05:01:56 AM UTC

Maybe Kinky (0.00 / 0)

will run for Lt. Governor...

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by: McBlogger @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 05:38:30 AM UTC

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Actually (0.00 / 0)

I think I could vote for him for Lt. Governor.  That is, assuming no one with actual experience ran in the Dem party.  (aka, I'd vote for him above Mr. Katz.)

It would be absolutely hilarious to see him run the Senate.  No one would know what to do.  And Lite Gov is high enough that a man like Kinky could get back to free-press zone for the general if he's lucky.

"Let us tenderly and kindly cherish therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write."  -  John Adams

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by: Michael Hurta @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 13:30:12 PM UTC

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I actually think (3.00 / 1)

Kinky could both get elected and do the job of Land Commissioner much better. Indeed, I think Kinky's home spun, down to earth, no nonsense persona will be an attribute as Land Commissioner.

Without joining or rejecting any negative statements about a potential Democratic Candidate, I have to admit that Kinky has a potential following as an anti-GOP populist.  

As a self-professed policy wonk and political junkie, I would prefer elections based on substance and policy analysis.  But let's be real, substance is often lost in the details or blurred by off base attacks.  But populism can be very attractive to many voters and is hard to counter.

There are always 2 issues about a candidate, can he or she get elected, and how would they be able to do the job. I think Kinky is potentially a great fit on both questions as Land Commissioner, which is the perfect place for a populist.

In contrast, the Party and State would need a lot of convincing as Lt. Guv., as more folks actually want something like a policy wonk in that job.

Since the second question is part of how the first question is answered, I think Kinky is much more likely to beat Patterson at Land Commissioner than Dewhurst at Lt. Guv.  And as such, if our goal is getting a Democrat elected statewide and on the Redistricting Board, we should support his move to Land Commisioner.  

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by: Eric Roberson @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 14:01:45 PM UTC

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Well, I can tell you... (3.00 / 1)

that you're not the only one who thinks that. We need a personality if we have any hope of dislodging Patterson. Like it or not, Kinky's got that in spades.

Lest anyone get confused, I don't like Kinky. Sorry, Colin, you know I like you but I really don't like Kinky. You've seen a side of him that I haven't and maybe one day will. However, I can at least acknowledge he's probably our best shot at that office.

Y'all need to remember, Texans LOVE personality and will vote for it over competence any day of the week. Not that Patterson can be considered competent unless you broaden the definition of the word to 'someone who shows up at work'. The one thing he definitely lacks is a personality, though I hear that Boone Pickens will maybe allow him to have one this cycle.

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by: McBlogger @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 21:20:15 PM UTC

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Ideal Job for Kinky (3.00 / 3)

Kinky should run for Texas Treasurer!

Now, it's true that the job disappeared more than a decade ago, so that makes it one he might actually be able to do.

Then, there's also Surveyor in Loving County.

Better yet, put him in charge of the light rail projects in Austin!

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by: texun @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 16:50:28 PM UTC

Is county weigher still an elected position? (0.00 / 0)

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by: citizenx @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 23:30:03 PM UTC

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Kinky for... (0.00 / 0)

I am just amazed by how everyone wants Kinky to run for something. Because he might win. And because he has a (D)beside his name. That is what you call desperation.

He is a Trojan Horse. Rick Perry's horse. Just wait and watch. Those who've watched him expect him to withdraw tomorrow. And endorse his hairdresser.  

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by: Baby Snooks @ Sun Dec 06, 2009 at 11:57:05 AM UTC