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LIGHT OF TRUTH: TORTURE DOES NOT WORK (Plus its illegal, anti-American, an un-Christian)


by: Eric Roberson

Sun Nov 13, 2011 at 01:15 PM CST


In light of the recent GOP debate on International Policy, I wanted to take a slight break from economic policy to discuss torture.

I know it is amazing to me, but in 2011 America, somebody has to stand up against torture as an instrument of foreign policy. But somebody does, and I think it should be military people who do.  So being a veteran, and being somebody who believes that the Democrats need to be strong on foreign policy, I think it is even more important to stand up against torture, especially torture in the form of "enhanced interrogation techniques."  

Even military people know that might is not always right.  Sometimes being strong is simply wrong, especially when the purported means of being strong is being uninformed by using means and methods that are immoral, illegal, and ineffective.  As someone who has been waterboarded, I can testify it is both ineffective and constitutes torture.

In case you did not see it, in the GOP debate last night, GOP candidates Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum all came out in favor of  waterboarding and/or enhanced interrogation techniques.  

GOP Debate Statements in Favor of Waterboarding
  • Michelle Bachman:  Waterboarding is "very effective" and "[i]t gained information for our country."
  • Herman Cain: Against torture, but does not consider waterboarding torture.
  • Rick Perry: stated that Enhanced interrogation techniques "save young American lives.  This is war. That's what happens in war. "
  • Rick Santorum: Enhanced techniques had been successful in gathering information, and "critical" in the war against terror.

Not surprisingly, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman came out against waterboarding and other forms of torture (and Romney avoided taking a position on the issue).  

But more importantly the statements by Perry, Bachmann, Cain and Santorum are all demonstrably false.  

Indeed, while as a Christian I oppose these policies because they are immoral, as believer in personal liberty I oppose these police because they are so dehumanizing that they corrupt the foundation of our national government's foundation for governing, but equally as important, as a military man I am opposed to these policies because they simply do not work - except to provide false information.

Specifically, both GOP Senator John McCain and CIA Director Leon Pentta have made it clear that the use of waterboarding was not successful , and had not assisted the war of terror in capturing Al Qaida or stopping terror in its tracks."  Indeed, waterboarding "produced false information" according to GOP Senator McCain.  

The fact is that waterboarding was not invented to gather good information.  Rather waterboarding was invented to break the will of prisoners.  Waterboarding goes all the way back to the Spanish Inquisition.  Any student of interrogation techniques will tell you that waterboarding simply does not work at providing valid intelligence information.  

For example, contrary to GOP exaggerations, waterboarding did not work did not work against al Qaida terrorists, and waterboarding simply does not work against anybody.

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As someone who has been water-boarded, I would invite anyone who disagrees with me to see for themselves, and put their money were their mouth is.  Perry, Bachmann, Cain or Santorum can give it a try and tell me that I am wrong and that it is not torture.  

I say that without flinching, because (1) I know they will not try; and (2) because everyone who has been waterboarded agrees that it is most definitely torture.  Just ask Chicago radio personality/shock jock Erich "Mancow" Muller, who was voluntarily waterboared as a stunt and could even last the length of a bullride.  Afterward, Muller stated that waterboarding was "way worse than I thought it would be" and agreed waterboarding is torure after lasting only 7 seconds on the board before giving up.  

As for me, as a former Naval Flight Officer, I was subjected to the joy of waterboarding during my week of hell on earth called POW school.  

For those of you who are unaware, waterboarding is the act of placing a person prone on their back on a board, having a group of big strong guys hold the man still, placing a cloth across their head and eyes so they cannot move their head or see the water coming, and then leaning the board backwards and pouring literally gallons of water down the individual's nose and face so that he cannot breath without inhaling water.  

In all my years, before and after, I have never been in such a fear of impending death.  Quite frankly, until you have been there, you have no idea what it does to your mind, and your psyche.  Quite frankly, though, the waterboarding only broke my spirit enough to make me talk.  It ticked me off so much that what I said was totally useless to my interrogators.  (Yes, even in fake POW camp, you still have data you are trying to protect).  Mu point - having been water-boarded, it is not a useful tool to get real information.  Anyone who says so is simply ignorant of the facts and need to get their face wet for a few minutes.

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