Texas Governor's Debate: Democrat Bill White vs. Libertarian Kathie Glass (Liveblog)

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8:16 — Last Update

Looking back over my notes (the liveblog below), I can honestly say I enjoyed the forum/debate. Kathie Glass, like Debra Medina, is an honest and sincere person. However, she is absolutely out there — her answer on how to address mental health issues (cut taxes, lower spending, secure our borders) was one of the most incredible stick-to-talking-points-when-you-don't-know-the-answer responses I've ever seen. She is even more of a state's rights, sovreignty person than Perry. Glass declared that education is “socialism.”

But ultimately, she was there. She was willing to share what she thinks. Rick Perry isn't. Rick Perry had one of his trolls working the chat room for the livestream of the debate online — and getting thoroughly rebuked by everyone in there. Rick Chicken Perry continues to disrespect the voters of the state — because he doesn't have answers to the $18 billion budget shortfall, how he's doubled state debt and nearly doubled state spending. Perry refused to debate Medina, refused to attend editorial board meetings, and has now refused to appear at a public debate.

A career politician like Rick Perry isn't going to get to ignore the voters for four more months. The more he does, the worse he and his campaign will be.


8:00: That's it! First debate closes. Actually an informative conversation. Perry got beat up the whole time, and Kathie Glass is a strong messenger on his issues. For any libertarian/Republicans who have Perry fatigue, she will be a suitable alternative. Wrap-up post tomorrow. Thanks for reading!

7:57: Glass closes with a big, “are you afraid?!?!” speech. One line: “Are you going to awaken and wonder what freedom they've taken away from us next?” Goes back to her greatest hits — sovreignty, border security, cutting taxes — and says “if you're going to vote for Rick Perry, that's a wasted vote.”

7:54: Oh yeah — for the record, Bill White won the coin toss tonight! Each candidate will get to close with their stump speech. Nice direct line: “Rick Perry will see how many times he can say “Obama” and “liberal” in a :30-second TV commercial.” Talks, again, about respect and public servants. White's closing:

“If you don't have the guts to get up here on stage and answer to the taxpayers who pay your salary then you shouldn't be elected Governor.”

7:52: White responds to how to reduce unemployment Texans by talking about the need for improvements in education, planning for the future across all issues. He really sees the whole big picture, which is encouraging to see in comparison to Part-Time Perry, but also can get him pulled off track.

7:51pm – Final question: “What measures would you do to reduce unemployment?” If you guessed that Kathie Glass said, “cut taxes” you were right. She also wants to remove certain licensing laws. Kaiba is…less than impressed with Kathie Glass. I'm starting to get the feeling this is the only liveblog I'll be doing until Rick Perry gets involved…

7:50pm – Conversation on health care. Nothing new here…Glass wants to nullify everything.

7:48pm – White asked, “What mandates would you give agencies in Texas to see that our industries” keep things healthy. White's response:

“My mandates to the agencies would be to make decisions based on public health criteria, and not how much somebody donated to a campaign.”– Bill White

Then goes on to discuss the radioactive waste dump site, in West Texas.


7:44pm – Feed is getting choppy here towards the end…trying to fix.

7:42pm –  Glass rejects the premise that Texas needs more revenues. I didn't see that one coming. (eyeroll.) Calls for the elimination of the property tax, and the franchise tax. Kathie Glass doesn't mince words — she will cut everything!!!

7:40pm – White: “State spending has gone up by 79% since Perry has been Governor.” Talks about looking under the hood for tightening the budget.

7:38pm – Bill White talks about history in Houston, and how he helped address mental health issues in Texas. White then goes into a sincere conversation about how he will do more to address the issue in Texas.

7:37pm – Kathie Glass will increase our mental health by….cutting taxes, lowering spending, and securing our borders. Why? Because with less spending, we'll be mentally healthy. Not joking. Definitely a highlight of the night.

7:35pm – Water resources conversation. I'm taking a water break. Nothing tangible said, but not that much can be. Water is one of the most complex issues imaginable. The management of our state's water resources is twice as challenging as figuring out transportation, and look how poorly we do on that.

7:32pm – Bill White goes into his 5-point plan on education. It was one of his most-liked posts on Facebook. Yes, I know that. I'm also live-blogging this.

7:31pm – Kathie Glass declares that public education is socialism. Home run! It's eerie how much she sounds exactly like Rick Perry at times. “You can't just fix socialism” is the classic quote!

7:30pm – Question on border security. Nothing ground-shaking. Kathie Glass is impassioned and well-spoken. Her ideas are, you know — a bit out there. But she's committed. And at least she'll show up.

7:25pm – Bill White announces he's gotten donations from 16,000 Texans, encourages everyone to look at reports when they're released.

7:22pm – Kathie Glass talks about keeping out conflicts of interest as well. Not as strong as her opening remarks. Next question is about campaign finance reform…Kathie starts by saying we should keep corporate restrictions on campaigns. 

7:19pm – White begins a conservation about Perry's lobbyists, leading up to the Trans Texas Corridor. Builds towards connecting Perry's assets and his blind trust, and how until Perry discloses what's in his blind trust, we'll never know about the conflicts of interest he may have with those behind the Trans Texas Corridor. Definitely need to re-watch.

7:17pm – Kathie Glass speaks next. She talks about individual and state sovreignty in her opening remarks, concluding by say “this must stop.” She echoes Perry's message, that Texas is a target of the federal government. She then says, “I'm the only candidate that appreciates this imminent peril…and has the will to do so.” Goes on: “I will nullify unconstitutional federal acts.”

7:14pm – Bill White begins by thanking the League for offering the public forum, and launches into a stump speech against Perry. Wow!

7:09pm – The beginning of long bios from each. This part lasted four minutes.

7:07pm –  We've just been told that this is a forum, not a debate. Umm…Kaiba says forums shouldn't have ground rules. I'm sticking w/ calling it a debate.

7:04pm – The woman is setting the bar low for Bill White. He'll definitely be able to clear her.

7:00pm – Gotta love the down-home feel of public access, don't ya? 😉

I'll be live-blogging the first debate of the Texas Governor's race, which occurs tonight in just a few minutes. You can watch the debate online here, on the KVHC homepage, or watch it live on Bill White's website. A quick reminder about the debate:

Today also marks the first debate of the general election season, as Democrat Bill White and Libertarian Kathie Glass will square off at a league of women voters debate in Kerrville tonight, at 7pm. The debate will be streamed live on the KVHC website. Before the weekend began, R.G. Ratcliffe wrote a piece about the debate, “Debate will go on without Perry”

The first debate in the Texas governor's race will be between a pair of Houstonians in the Hill Country on Monday, minus Gov. Rick Perry. […]

Kerrville Area League President Donna Robinson said Perry was invited to attend but turned it down.

Should be starting soon. Will do my best to liveblog and keep things up to date. As always, newer posts will go on top. Check back tomorrow for any recap/reactions that are worth mentioning.


About Author

Phillip Martin

Currently the Research and Policy Director for Progress Texas and the Texas Research Institute, Phillip Martin writes occasional long-form pieces for BOR that promote focused analysis and insight into Texas politics. Born and raised in Austin, Phillip started working in politics in 2003 and started writing on BOR in the summer of 2005. Phillip has worked for the Texas Democratic Trust, the Texas Legislative Study Group, and now the Progress Texas family. He is a lifelong Houston Astros fan, a loyal Longhorn, and loves swimming at Barton Springs Pool.

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