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April 08, 2004See How Much You Save With An Income TaxBy Andrew DobbsMy state rep, Eddie Rodriguez has made a very gutsy move by proposing a state income tax. While he's in no danger of losing his district (in liberal, majority Hispanic East Austin), this issue is still the Third Rail of Texas politics. Nothing evokes quite the demagoguery of this issue. Eddie is trying to cut through that nonsense and fearmongering with an honest and open look at what it would really mean for Texans. The answer is that it would be a magic bullet- lower taxes for the vast majority of Texans with greater revenue. Eddie has created a new website, http://www.texastaxrelief.com that addresses his plan in depth. The Rodriguez Plan shifts the entire burden of funding school operations from the local school districts (who collect the majority of your property taxes) to the State …which will pick up the tab by using revenue collected through a State Education Income Tax. The Proposed State Education Income Tax would produce about $19 Billion in new state revenue. This money would first be used to replace the most burdensome local property tax … the Maintenance and Operations Property Tax (sometimes referred to as "The Robin Hood Tax"). This will still leave a balance of approximately $5.1 billion for two other key objectives. The Rodriguez Plan would also: The website has a great little calculator on the front page that lets you find out how much you would save with the Rodriguez plan. a family of 4 earning $40,000 a year in a $120,000 that taxes at the current $1.50 per $100 value cap (which most school districts in Texas are at) would pay only $294 a year, a savings of $1,281! Even if you are a single person making $250,000 a year and living in a $1 million home, you would save $1,640 a year. Only the incredibly wealthy would see any raise in their taxes and even then, if they are paying corporate franchise taxes from their business, they would see savings there. Kudos to Eddie for the site and I urge you all to play around with the calculator. Maybe if people learn how much they'll save, we can finally get some real revenue solutions for Texas. Posted by Andrew Dobbs at April 8, 2004 12:11 AM | TrackBackComments
I made that calculator for Rep Rodriguez last summer as a matter of fact. Posted by: chrisken at April 8, 2004 01:26 AMAhgem.... MY State Senator Has a simular idea and has been going around the state and promoting it :O) you can view Sen. Shapliegh's power point presintation at http://www.shapleigh.org/WebsitePresentation_files/frame.htm :) Can't forget about the good Senator in El Paso Posted by: mike at April 8, 2004 02:17 AMWhy doesn't the calculator work for high-dollar accounts? I tried a high-end Park-Cities type entry ($1,000,000 house, $1,000,000 income) and couldn't get it to work. For one of my friends, who lives in North Dallas and earns $55k, his savings would be $300 a month! Otherwise, it's a great thing, and I'm forwarding the link on to my voters. Posted by: precinct1233 at April 8, 2004 08:57 AMIt works fine for me at $1,000,000 each (don't include the commas and $ of course). It shows that you would have to pay $55,000 more under Rodriguez's plan. Although, the generic ratio is 2/1 (house cost over income) so if you had a $2,000,000 house you'd only be paying $40,000 more under the plan. Posted by: chrisken at April 8, 2004 11:13 AMBig flaw in this is the 40+% of Texans who pay no property tax now, those who don't own real estate. It's incorrect to state that their rent would definitely go down if this plan were passed. First, they've signed a lease with a given rent. So no immediate change. Second, rents are sticky and drop very slowly and reluctantly. Any change would likely be minor (and you'd likely have to move to see it). Note that liberals made the above point when dismissing Gov. Bush's property tax cut proposal: Here's how Carlos Guerra explains it: "Bush's proposal to return $160 to every homeowner through a property tax cut, however, does not help the poorest Texans. Sales taxes collected 55 cents of every budget-surplus dollar and an unconscionable portion of that was squeezed from the poorest Texans. Let's also remember that more than 40 percent of Texans are renters who don't own homes, and renters also tend to be the poorer Texans who won't see a penny of that refund. How fair is it to refund money — 55 percent of which was collected from everyone — to less than 60 percent of the taxpayers?" Another problem is it's just too easy to raise the income tax, and to shunt the money around to non-educational purposes, as would inevitably happen. Also, the cost of administering and enforcing an income tax would be huge. Our own mini-IRS! Wouldn't save administrative cost from eliminating only the M&O property tax. Posted by: TM at April 8, 2004 01:21 PMI would think changing to an income tax would help to promote home ownership to that 40% of people, as long as the income tax is progressive enough to exempt lower incomes from paying much tax. At the same time, it would force wealthy renters to pay into the system. (And if you don't think there are any wealthy renters, just go look around Uptown Dallas.) I also don't see how administering an income tax would cost more than administering property taxes. You'd no longer need all those appraisers, and the people it takes to handle all the appraisal protests. Posted by: Jason Young at April 8, 2004 01:58 PMJason, would still need appraisers for city, county, non-M&O school, community college property taxes. Posted by: TM at April 8, 2004 02:48 PMI disagree with the plan in it's entirety. It certainly has great selling points for general consumption, but further socializing the costs of K-12 education isn't what we need. Posted by: Charles Hueter at April 8, 2004 03:36 PMI apologize, my link got screwed up. This is the correct one. Posted by: Charles Hueter at April 8, 2004 03:38 PMMr.Hueter's knowledge of political theory appears to be a tad faulty. By his logic, funding public education is socialism. What kind of Republican newspeak is this? K-12 is no more socialism than is the local police department, the animal shelter or the water district. Posted by: Dennis at April 9, 2004 01:22 PMDennis, I'm no Republican. Who owns the vast majority of K-12 schools, who covers their educators' and administrators' paychecks, who sets their curriculum, who crafts the rules and regulations for those schools' conduct? The government. Ditto for all the markets you mention above. It is state socialism, limited in reach only by the few exceptions local and federal government grant. Posted by: Charles Hueter at April 11, 2004 08:56 PMPost a comment
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