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November 24, 2003

Where do your Tech Support Calls Go?

By Byron LaMasters

I'm not much of a fan of Dell Computers, but this is some interesting news:

After an onslaught of complaints, direct sales computer king Dell Inc. has stopped routing corporate customers to a technical support call center in Bangalore, India.

Tech support for Optiplex desktop and Latitude notebook computers will be handled from call centers in Texas, Idaho and Tennessee, Dell spokesman Jon Weisblatt told The Associated Press Monday.

[...]

Dell is one of a number of high-tech companies that has in recent years moved jobs offshore to India and other developing nations for the cheaper labor, which in Dell's case helps keep down the cost of providing round-the-clock support.

Corporate customers account for about 85 percent of Dell's business, with only 15 percent coming from the consumer market. Consumer callers won't see a change in technical support, Weisblatt said, and Dell has no plans to scale back resources at the Bangalore call center.

Worldwide, Dell employs about 44,300 people. About 54 percent are located abroad.


Companies like Dell are one of the reasons why we've lost so many jobs over the past several years. I'm all for globalization (it's inevitable), but it's critical to understand that its no longer just the manufacturing jobs that are going overseas. What can the government do about this? I'm not sure. But I do know what consumers can do. We can demand that companies have their technical support services in the United States, and if they don't then don't buy their products. I've had very bad experiences with Dell (and note that I was a little bit angry when I made that page), and for a year or so, everytime I saw a Dell ad talking about their tech support awards, I wanted to throw something at the TV. I've mellowed a bit, but it's interesting to see that I'm not the only one with problems with Dell tech support:


Among Dell customers dissatisfied with the company's use of overseas labor is Ronald Kronk, a Presbyterian minister in Rochester, Pa., who has spent the last four months trying to resolve a miscommunication that has resulted in his being billed for two computers.

The problem, he says, is that the Dell call center is in India.

"They're extremely polite, but I call it sponge listening _ they just soak it in and say 'I can understand why you're angry' but nothing happens," Kronk said.

Kronk has been credited for the second computer, but still faces late charges on a balance he said he never owed.

"Every time I see a Dell commercial on TV, I just cringe. They make it sound so easy and it's been a nightmare," Kronk said. "I even said to them once that I'd like to speak to someone in the U.S. They gave me a number but it's a recording and I can't speak to a human being."


Contact Dell. Demand that all of their technical support, not just for their corporate clients be done in America.

Posted by Byron LaMasters at November 24, 2003 01:48 PM | TrackBack

Comments

We can demand that companies have their technical support services in the United States, and if they don't then don't buy their products.

What about companies with overseas tech support which IS effective? If you would still demand this, it seems sort of...nativist.

Posted by: Mark Harden at November 24, 2003 02:01 PM

Byron,

I've had bad experiences with Dell as well. I got a desktop computer from them, only to discover that the preinstalled software didn't work. It just crashed whenever I tried to boot the thing up, right out of the box. It was obvious that it hadn't been tested.

It took SEVEN HOURS with tech support to fix the problem. Now I buy my computers from Computer Dynamix, a local company. At least with them I can just drag the thing in...

Posted by: Owen Courrèges at November 24, 2003 07:17 PM

As a former longhorn living in Bangalore, India, I get to see first hand the development that has been brought about by the relocation of call centers in India.

In fact, many of my colleagues train call center workers in things like american culture, accent, sales, etc. so they are better able to serve their customers. I'm sure whoever wrote this article would be surprised to find that most of the people answering your tech support calls here in India have at least a masters or an MBA in an applicable field and will work happily long demanding hours.

I find it funny that the democrats are the ones constantly complaining about how the United States stiffles development in others countries through big bad organizations like the WTO, but when corporations do cost-effective things like outsource to countries like India that not only help the company grow in the US, but also helps people in India find jobs, they start complaining.

So, before you go off demanding that call center jobs be relocated to the US. Think of this: who is going to answer your calls in the US? Do you think that a recently graduated Longhorn MBA or Longhorn engineering masters would really take a job working from 12am-8am making the equivalent of $200 a month???? Um, I'm sure you agree with me that the answer is a resounding NO.

Jessica Rowland

Posted by: Jessica Rowland at November 25, 2003 01:41 AM

Dell is a big financial backer of Republican causes. When you suppoprt Dell, you help fill GOP coffers.
On the other hand, Al Gore is on the board of Apple Computer.

THINK DIFFERENT.

Posted by: Tim Z at November 25, 2003 06:17 AM

I'd like to thank Ms. Rowland for sharing her opinion on the matter.

Personally, I don't mind so much if Dell relocates. That's business. Their job is to drive down the cost of personal computing (and that has been Dell's raison d'etre for years), and if that means that "Dude, you're getting laid off" well, thus spake the markets. If the people want tech support jobs in America, they can buy from another company.

(Yes, I'm still on the DSA's mailing list so maybe it's ironic that I'm, on balance, not really against globalization. And you know, I really could use a job at Dell right now, so I do wish they would post more openings.)

On the other hand, I think there is a legitimate gripe when the RNC does fundraising from India, at least as long as the Republicans are going to do the daily whine about "patriotism."

Posted by: Jim D at November 25, 2003 07:09 AM

Blech... I'd sooner shove ice picks under my fingernails than use an Apple.

Posted by: Owen Courrèges at November 25, 2003 12:26 PM

Just bought a Dell laptop as a Christmas gift for my son, a college sophomore. Laptop didn't come equipped as specified. Called customer service. Got someone who could NOT speak English. Couldn't understand that one; got transferred to someone else whose English was even worse than the first one--couldn't understand her. Asked to speak with someone who was more proficient in English--didn't get anyone; got transferred to Spare Parts Department. What was that all about? Called back--got another person who spoke halting English. Asked to speak to supervisor. Finally got someone who said her name was Jasmine. I could understand her. Resolved the problem--the laptop goes back to Dell. After four Dell computer purchases, I will no longer purchase one of their products. I don't care if you have the best hardware and software in the industry--if a customer cannot understand the individuals with whom he/she is speaking, cannot get the answers he/she is seeking because of communication barriers, then I say the company gets what it deserves when it falls on its face. If other Americans stop purchasing products that support other countries' economies and drain our financial and intellectural resources, perhaps we can stop the hemorrhaging of American jobs and restore the American dream for our children. I am a college professor and I plan to share my experience with every student with whom I come in contact. Dell won't win any praises from me. Oh, by the way, I teach in a department that trains future "tech support" employees--none of whom are willing to move to India. What are their job prospects?

Posted by: Virginia G at December 26, 2003 09:01 PM

I have been on the phone for over two hours today trying to purchase a Dell laptop. I have spoke to three different people who seemingly do NOT understand English, regardless of their educational background. I am now on hold once again and if I do not speak to an English speaking person in the next ten minutes, Dell will lose a $3,400.00 sale! This is ridiculous! One would think they were doing me a favor by taking my money!

Posted by: Carol B. at January 26, 2004 02:43 PM

I have been on the phone for over two hours today trying to purchase a Dell desktop computer. I have spoken to three different people who seemingly do NOT understand English, regardless of their educational background. I am now on hold once again and if I do not speak to an English speaking person in the next ten minutes, Dell will lose a $3,400.00 sale! This is ridiculous! One would think they were doing me a favor by taking my money!

Posted by: Carol B. at January 26, 2004 02:43 PM

No wonder why when someone who had my credit car d number, easily could buy a dell computer without
proper address billing verification. Thank god the
credit card company cleared this up.Dell could care less about the average tech worker. It is simple and plain,If they don't give benefits to american full time workers they save thousands of dollars per worker. If you look at it in an accounting standpoint they can't lose, instead of importing H1-Visas in the country they went straight to the source.

Posted by: layed off techworker at February 27, 2004 04:10 AM

try gateway, or IBM, also try to browse for web pages that describes their tech support dept

Posted by: tech support agent at July 30, 2004 09:56 PM
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