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Chet Edwards For Senate...'08


by: SADem

Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:21 PM CDT


(As a party in Texas, we have to think and plan beyond any given November. So use this as an open thread for discussion on the next two state cycles. - promoted by Karl-Thomas Musselman)

There's an open discussion thread over at Swing State Project that evolved from a discussion about interest in '06 races to races in '08.  One of the races that sparked several comments was the TX Senate race in 2008.

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The first comment started like this:

Texas: There are a number of unemployed Congressman since 2004 maybe we can convince one of them to run Frost, Turner, Bell, or Henry Cuellar even seriously he will vote with Democrats 40% of the time its better than Cornyn isn't it

Then:

In Texas, our 2 strongest candidates would be, in my opinion, Chet Edwards (who would probably win us the Senate seat and lose us the house seat) and Bill White (Mayor of Houston). Chet Edwards basically wins everything, and Bill White's re-election in '05 makes oppressive dictators look bad - he won with like 92% of the vote.

Next:

I'm all for a Chet Edwards senate candidicy: he is one of the smartest politicians out there, and he's popular and well-known in some of the most Republican territory in Texas. Add to that Cornyn's unpopularity (assuming that he doesn't climb out of the hole in the next two years, admittedly a big assumption) and we could have ourselves one hell of a race. And it doesn't seem too far-fetched a possibility, either: it's not as if Edwards has any real job security at the moment, even if he chooses to stay in the House he's looking at a tough re-election campaign every two years. I think a statewide race would be a no-brainer for him, especially if it was against a weak opponent.

Followed by:

On Edwards I think we should wait untill after 2006 to see what the house looks like before asking him to run. If we hold the House by one seat I don't want to send Edwards off to run a senate campaign and risk loseing that House seat. And unless a great candidate comes we lose that seat which is 70-30 Bush.

Then:

I understand what you're saying, but I just don't agree with the logic. We're not guarenteed to win the seat even if Edwards is the nominee, so why should we keep spending hundreds of thousands of dollars defending this seat every two years *and* sacrafice perhaps our strongest candidate for an office that has far more influence, anyway? There are pickup oppurtunities this election cycle that I feel more confident about than I feel about Edward's re-election, and that will almost certaintly be true in 2008, as well.

And then:

What I mean is with Edwards we have a strong shot of holding TX-17 with anybodyelse we lose it. In the TX-sen race it's 50-50 and we can end up loseing both the Senate and the House seat.

And finally:

Which is a good possibility regardless of which seat Edwards runs for. Even if that happened, anyway, it's not like it's the end of the world. On the downside we lose one House seat, on the upside we gain the hundreds of thousands of dollars each cycle that we would have spent defending this incredibly Republican district and get to instead devote it to challengers in Democratic-leaning seats, potentially helping us pick up a seat to counterbalance TX-17, maybe even helping us pick up two seats or more.

Politics can't be all about risk aversion and short-term gain. It's nice having a Democrat in TX-17, but it's by no means neccesary for us to hold that seat in order to gain/hold control of the House. I think it'd just be a waste of Edward's considerable talent to hold him back from running for an office with far more power and influence just because we're afraid of losing a House seat that, in all liklihood, the Republicans are going to eventually take back, anyway (even if they have to wait for Edward's retirement or the next big Republican wave).

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Good discussion both ways (0.00 / 0)
Although I'm a Chet fan in/for this scenario.

Probably the worst thing that could happen though is if both Chet AND White were to run.

Both would make a serious run at that Senate seat.  This is probably a discussion that is better left until Noveber 8, 2006 though.

I wouldn't give up TX-17 all that quickly though.  A guy like Jim Dunnam could keep that seat competitive.  In addition to his part of McLennan county, Dunnam also has Falls, Robertson, and Madison counties in HD-57...which are all  in TX-17.

Plus Brazos County falls partially into Waco's media market so Dunnam's commercials run there everytime he has a race... so decent name ID to start off with.

Even John Mabry could keep this seat competitive in '08.  Guess it just all depends on who would run on the R side.

thejeffersonian.blogspot.com


Wonder... (0.00 / 0)
If our old pal Arlene Wohlgemuth would try a comeback?

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Depends (0.00 / 0)
on how much she likes lobby money.

thejeffersonian.blogspot.com

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Rumored '08 dems (0.00 / 0)
this is a long list:

Chet Edwards
Bill White
Barbara Radnofsky
Richard Morrison

oh and Gene Kelly.

It's an interesting batch, but who could pull us a win?


the only ones who could win (0.00 / 0)
(in order of likelihood) Edwards, White and, because I like him, Morrison.

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Treaty Oak will be running in 2008... (0.00 / 0)
...unless Edwards runs. However, it will run if Edwards backs out and Bill White runs. Treaty Oak has some kind of a problem with White going back to 2004.

Close Race (0.00 / 0)
Can democrats have it both ways?

either chet really IS a moderate worthy of his 17th Congresisonal moderate seat...or he is a liberal pro-choice far-lefty who could win a democratic primary and appeal to far-left voters.

Conservative Yet Pragmatic


not sure (0.00 / 0)
you have to be a "liberal pro-choice far-lefty" to win a democratic primary in texas - maybe for a presidential, but texas democrats are getting used to moderate dems and edwards is REAL popular, especially since he was the only one to survive redistricting.

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And if he runs... (0.00 / 0)
John Mabry for TX-17 in 08

I don't see him running... (0.00 / 0)
First, I absolutely love Chet Edwards.  He is most certainly my kind of Democrat and I support him 100%.  However, I think he does far more for his career and his party staying in this seat and gaining seniority every election cycle.  If the Dems retake the House, he will have FAR more power than a Freshman Senator.  Furthermore, I must admit I do not think he could win statewide.  That certainly isn't a knock against him at ALL; I simply don't believe his name recognition is terribly high outside of the District/in any media markets beyond the Waco media market.  Mayor White, on the other hand, brings in the Houston media market and has a far bigger profile following Katrina.  If the seat is indeed winable, which I don't neccesarily believe it is, I see him as the candidate that can win it.

I don't see Chet running for Senate in 08 (3.00 / 1)
if 06 turns the House around he's in line to be Chair of a major House committee.

He's a very smart politician with extremely good instincts.  He can do more good for Texas Democrats staying in the House.


best point in thread... (0.00 / 0)
something I didnt even think of.

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its house appropriations chair vs. freshman senator (0.00 / 0)
I don't see Chet winning statewide in '08.  the WD40s aren't competitive anymore.

Besides, Chet was like #16 in the congressional power rankings.  He's in the lineup to be Appropriations or Budget Chairman once we win back the House this November.

And then a Texan will once again have Congress by the balls.  So I think Chet will stay in the House.


my bad... (0.00 / 0)
...he was #17 in his party and #82 overall.  internet was slow so i guessed.

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