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Open Thread / Live Blog on Senate Voter Suppression Committee


by: Phillip Martin

Tue Mar 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM CDT


Ed. Note. Want a quick refresher on why this is voter suppression? Go to the TDP voter twister website to find out...

4:30pm - I forgot to mention the Texas Observer's blog, Floor Pass, as one to follow today.

Democrats continue to lay the groundwork for the case against voter ID. The arguments are important -- all of this is being entered by a court reporter for a reason. Should the Republicans in the House decide to actually see this thing through to the end -- and guarantee their own political undoing when the Democrats take over the House in 2010 -- then the bill still will have to pass the muster of the courts.

Republicans who are whining about the process so far should remember -- they chose this path. They chose to place this ridiculous piece of legislation before every other issue facing the state of Texas, and they chose to throw out the Senate procedures in the process. I have no sympathy for their whining about the extended discussion of the process -- either it is important enough to merit a week's worth of discussion, or it's not.

2:45pm - Continue following updates here:

A quick scan shows nothing too new. Senator Watson doing a great job asking questions. Senate to break for "10 minutes." I may not miss anything during this class if they break for "10 minutes." Little known rule -- the whole Senate gets ten minutes to break, but each Senator takes those 10 minutes at different times, thus explaining the delays.

2:00pm - Duncan has now dismissed aside all procedural arguments; Republicans begin their inane arguments.

It can't be stressed enough -- voter fraud (and every example that they are going to bring up today) is not what the bill is designed to stop. The bill is designed to stop voter impersonation, not voter fraud. And there is no case of voter impersonation in Texas. They know it is designed to lower the ability of college students, recently married women, seniors, minorities, and practically every other Democratic constituency from being able to vote. They know that it will reduce turnout by 2-3% almost exclusively among Democratic voters -- unless the President runs a major campaign in that state (re: Indiana, Georgia).

I can't listen to their idiocy on this -- I'll write a wrap-up later. In the mean time, read "Manic Suppression" by Paul Burka and take a look at the excellent post Glenn Smith penned earlier this week: "The Ultimate Wedge Issue in Democracy."

I'm out for the afternoon. Feel free to continue the conversation in the comments below.

1:38pm - Senator Tommy Williams -- who admits voter suppression legislation is more important than CHIP or tuition deregulation -- now says that the rules of the Senate floor don't apply to the Committee of the Whole. It's wonderfully symbolic: Republicans will follow those rules that they want, and ignore those they don't want -- that's the entire story of the voter suppression legislation.

1:35pm - Dewhurst/Duncan ruling throwing out the Senate rules basically leaves the Senate without any official rules to operate under. Senator Royce West is pointing out that the Republicans threw out the rules -- and to say now that they don't want to follow them and "apply them to the situation" is beyond logic, reason, or understanding.

Basically -- the R's wanted to play this game. The Democrats are better at procedure, because when R's break tradition in the Senate they don't have a way to really get in and fight back appropriately.

1:30pm - Selby breaks a big story: Duncan sent a memo to Senator Van de Putte saying that Abbott shouldn't testify (today he is saying he never suggested such a thing to Abbott...which may be true, but give me a break). Again, from Selby (who, along with Elise Hu is doing phenomenal work today):

Duncan didn’t think it appropriate that Abbott testify and told the Senate Democrats’ leader that last week. He still could have kept that position to himself—that is, not talked to Abbott or Abbott’s office about it. Seems unlikely, perhaps, but that’s what’s in the public record.

Here's the relevant quote from the Duncan memo:

Given the fact that the Office of Attorney General will represent the state of Texas in litigation, if any, arising out of this legislation, it would be inappropriate to present the Attorney General as a witness in the legislative debate. To the extent there are procedural or technical questions relating to elections in Texas, the Office of Secretary of State may be invited as a resource. 

A-mazing.

1:15pm - Dewhurst/Duncan basically say that the rules of the Senate do not apply to the Committee of the Whole...questions on that going on now.

12:58pm - Senator Royce West is raising several points of order on the leigslation. Selby is reporting that Dewhurst told him that the points of order shouldn't be valid:

“It’s not valid,” Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst told me shortly before yielding his gavel to Sen. Robert Duncan, the Senate’s president pro tempore, to preside over the Senate sitting as a committee of the whole.

Gallegos this morning put a “tag” on Senate Bill 362 by Sen. Troy Fraser, R-Horseshoe Bay, a move that under Senate rules usually results in delaying a hearing by 48 hours. Dewhurst told me it wouldn’t stick; he didn’t elaborate except to call it invalid.

(Click "There's More" below to read earlier updates)
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12:55pm - I'm out of class now and watching the proceedings on my laptop for at least another hour or so. However, I'm also following along with the following folks, in order to determine what is the latest and -- more importantly -- to watch the press and see how they are framing/characterizing the proceedings in comparison to me:

Is a lot of the notes/updates the same on all of those place? Somewhat. But it is important to document it on our site, and it is informative to "compare notes" in case anyone misses something, and to see, agian, how each pivot point is framed by different folks in the press.

12:40pm -  The Senate is gaveling back in. Elise Hu gives us the update on "tagging" the bill and delaying the vote:

[Official text of Senate rules]. So as I understand it, Democratic senators could tag on a technicality -- they got 48 hour notice on a 9am start time today, but instead the session gaveled in at 10am (a change that was made just last night). They did not get 48 hour notice on the 10am start time.

12:30pm - Gardner Selby of the Statesman looks into the question -- where is Abbott hiding? (See update at 11:45am for more):

Ellis asked if Duncan had any personal objection to the AG appearing as a witness.

“I did not request the attorney general to refuse to appear,” Duncan said.

Last night, Abbott’s spokesman Jerry Strickland wrote, referring to Duncan as the chair:

Because the Office of the Attorney General would represent the state of Texas in legal matters that could arise from this legislation, the chair (meaning Duncan) decided it woild be inappropriate for the attorney general to be present as a witness in a legislative debate.

12:10pm - Senate stands at ease for now. For lunch, read Paul Burka's piece: "Manic Suppression" which has the following tag:

Voter ID is a terrible idea: bad for democracy and mean-spirited to boot. Let’s hope it doesn’t become law in Texas.

If even Burka gets it and agrees with Democrats, what does that say about how large of a nonsense issue this is that the Republicans insist on pursuing.

11:45am - There is now a discussion that Abbott wasn't advised by Duncah not to appear (though that's what Abbott has told the press). From Patricia Kilday Hart over at BurkaBlog:

Also, Duncan tells Ellis he did not advise Abbott not to appear, as Abbott’s office is telling the press. Would Duncan have any problem with Abbott appearing? Ellis wants to know. Ellis also points out there’s a lot of precedence for the Attorney General appearing at legislative hearings when the issue at hand is headed to court.

11:30am -  Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has been advised by Republican Senator Robert Duncan not to testify on the voter suppression legislation. Abbott is going to be able to dodge the multimillion dollar "voter fraud" unit. From the Lone Star Project:

What Happened?

    Anchia Letter
  • Late last week, State Representative Rafael Anchia (HD103 – Dallas) revealed that Greg Abbott had improperly withheld a series of highly suspicious affidavits and letters alleging voter fraud in Hidalgo County during a local municipal election in May of 2008 and the November 2008 General Election.

  • The suspicious documents include four possibly fraudulent affidavits discussing impersonation voting. Three of the affidavits are signed by the same Notary Public and have oddly similar language and phrasing.

  • Both State Representative Rafael Anchia and State Senator Kirk Watson (SD14 – Austin) filed separate formal requests weeks ago calling on the Attorney General to provide them all documents related to complaints and investigations of voter fraud. ( Dallas Morning News, March 7, 2009 )

  • Abbott failed to provide the documents or even notify the Legislators of their existence. Representative Anchia learned about the suspicious documents from sources outside the AG’s office. ( Dallas Morning News, March 7, 2009 )

11:25am -  Looks like the tag is going to hold up, which means the hearing could be stalled anywhere between 24 and 48 hours.

11:00am -  State Senator Leticia Van de Putte is grilling the Committee of the Whole Chair, Republican State Senator Robert Duncan, about why this is so important. We saw the Republicans answer this questoin when they broke the 2/3 rule to get the issue to the floor -- I wrote about it in the post, The Fringe Grassroots Republicans Own Dewhurst, the Texas GOP:

There is no moderation for Texas Republicans. They continue losing elections, nationally and here in Texas, but Senator Dan Patrick remains the most powerful person in the Texas Senate. Texans care more and more about pocketbook issues that Democrats continue to talk about, but people like Senator Williams -- who was also responsible for the margins tax bill in 2006 -- passed a resolution to make voter ID legislation the single top priority for their party.

He even admitted as much. In today's debate, he said at the 1:20:50 mark of the Senate video:

Senator West: Is this more important than dealing with tuition deregulation?

Senator Williams: Senator West, I believe that it is.

10:50am - Quick scan so far, here are the main items of interest:

  1. The bill was tagged by a Democratic Senator, which means the bill will be delayed for 48 hours. An interesting procedural move -- it is up to Dewhurst to figure out if he wants to honor that rule or figure out ANOTHER rule to break for this non-important issue.

  2. Selby is reporting that 100+ folks signed up to testify.

10:40am - I'm in class, so I can't really watch and live-blog the Committee. I'm counting on everyone in the comments providing information -- and I'll bring some comments onto the main part of the post. Also, the following folks are tracking it closely:

I'll do the best I can to follow along from afar...hopefully Steve Jarding will understand that, as I sit in his "how to run for office and manage campaigns" class, that I'm actually doing important work for when I want to go back to Texas and manage campaigns.
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If I may toot my own horn, I'm also blogging and tweeting live from the Senate floor at http://austinchronicle.com/Leg...

Too weird to be a Texan, too Texan to live anywhere else.

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Anyone want to venture a guess as to when the Senate will finish for the night?

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Senator Fraser is getting tired of answering what he feels are the same questions.  You can tell he's itching to get onto expert testimony because he is somewhat out of his depth on the details of this bill.

My favorite moment was when he claimed he could not hear Senator Wendy Davis's question.  Some remarks from the peanut gallery convening in the auditorium in the Capitol extension include, "It's a racist, sexist, ageist bill-- and he answers questions in the same manner."  NOT MY OPINION mind you, just something funny someone here said.

"this post does not reflect the views of anyone or any other organization other than Citizen Andy, and even then not all the time."


It continues with Hinojosa (0.00 / 0)
Now he can't hear Senator Hinojosa.  A pattern?  And he just told Senator Royce West that he needed to use his "Best Barry White voice"

I'm not saying or implying anything.  These are just facts.  Draw your own conclusions:
http://www.texasmonthly.com/bl...

"this post does not reflect the views of anyone or any other organization other than Citizen Andy, and even then not all the time."


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