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A Case for Van de Putte for Governor


by: Robert Ryland

Fri Feb 20, 2009 at 02:39 AM CST


(Here's an excellent diary from one of our regular readers -- and a Bastrop precinct chair. I'll also let everyone know, in case you haven't, that you can join the Facebook group "Draft Leticia Van de Putte for Governor" if you want to show your support. - promoted by Phillip Martin)

(Fair disclosure: I am a partisan hack, precinct chair, yellowdog and all-around liberal tool from Bastrop County...)

Que es esto? Phillip's recent post floating Sen. Leticia Van de Putte as a gubernatorial possibility made me pause in uffish thought for awhile today.   While I'd pondered her as a statewide before, it never really occurred to me to put her at the top of the list, but the post made me dig a little deeper and do some cipherin' (as my grandfather used to say).

My first thought was, damn that's a great media piece in the SA Current to start things off. Somebody in her camp has their act together - all the way down to the photos, which make her look tall and commanding and serious (as opposed to short and matronly), without sacrificing her femininity.  I like where this is going, PR-wise, if nothing else.

Then I thought some more, going down my mental list of vital candidate criteria and what a Democrat needs to knock off the jackals who currently control the machinery of our state gubmint...

I couldn't come up with a single weakness in her profile. Unless of course it's just not mathematically possible to elect a Latina as Texas Governor yet. My cursory reading of the numbers suggest that it's not out of the realm of possibility, given a combination of circumstances next year, but perhaps someone else can work over the numbers more closely and see what they yield. For the moment, I'm in love with the idea of this woman leading our cabal into the breach in 2010...and here's a few reasons why - (after the jump, if there is one around here...)

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1)She's a strong, positive, progressive Democrat, period. She's concise and pointed when she speaks about our failed current public officials but not nasty or divisive.  Working families are her natural constituency and she resonates incredibly well with them. On every important issue for Democrats, she's on the mark and then some, with the legislative record and advocacy history to back it all up - without reservations, asterisks, or apologies. To top it all off, she's effective at her job and serves her constituents well.  
Think about what a breath of fresh air that would be - not just for us as activists, but for thousands of like-minded Texans who have given up on the Texas Democrats ever having the cojones (ganas?) to make it worth showing up at the polls for them. Our lack of a clear and concise message, coupled with an abject fear of wielding real money to hard-sell plausible outcomes to a statewide audience, has cost us the respect of a generation of Texas voters and led to our marginalization as a statewide party. LVdP doesn't come from timid stock and isn't content to wander in the wilderness of either the Bill Whites or the David Van Oses. She'll tell it on the mountain and the Valley, clearly and convincingly, and while I don't know this for sure, I'd bet she'd be glad to spend the jack to get it out there in something 50% of Texas voters can relate to and digest easily.

2)Rising Star, No Burnt Bridges: Name recognition problem, my butt. Her resume is as solid as anyone's. She's done her time and used it well: 18 years in the State House and Senate, and not a moment of that spent twiddling her thumbs or  shirking her duties. She spent the last two years raising her profile considerably and building serious connections - and perhaps more importantly, doing it the right way. From her work with the national party, through the primary and both the state and national conventions, and of course her leadership in the Senate, this woman has made a lot of important friends and very few enemies, and impressed a lot of people from the rank and file all the way up to the national committee (not to mention her Republican adversaries in the Lege who view who her as a force of nature.) She stayed positive and above the back-biting during the primary and worked to heal the divisions afterward. Uniting behind her as our standard bearer could help to bury whatever hatchets are still laying around from last March. Obamaniacs and Hillarycrats alike will warm up to her just fine once they get a good look. And for those who didn't pay attention last year, name rec comes with political credibility and competent messaging, and requires a fair amount of good timing. You can build momentum around a candidacy if you play it right and take it a step at a time. The Current article is, I would imagine, part of the first stage of that game, and shows her very well. Let the buzz begin.

3)More Shoe Leather:  Of all the potential suitors for this gig (and there ain't many), LVdP probably has the greatest potential to inspire a legion of capable volunteers that could even come close to what Obama had here.  Thus, even if we lose with her, we go down fighting for something and we'd almost certainly alter the political terrain in this state for the better. She can lose and we still get something good out of it.
Speaking of...if this soft opening (the Current article) is an indication of how her ascedancy is going to be managed, then it's a very good sign that someone has their head in the right place and has learned the real lessons of Obama's campaign, without resorting to transparent and feckless hackery (*cough*Brewster*cough*).

4)All Our Base Are Belong to Leticia It's past time for Texas to come to grips with it's political future, and for Democrats that lies within the Hispanic community. And this isn't the Tony Sanchez game - Van de Putte has a real base in a large urban area to build upon, along with stroke around the state and street cred with which to build it. If we get behind her in any serious fashion, we have a chance to drive Hispanic and women's turnout to heretofore-unseen levels in a midterm - and that, my friends, is the Republicans' worst nightmare. Noriega couldn't do it for a number of reasons, but given the right ground game and media strategy, LVdP will.

5)Fundraising? Oh, I think that she can. Both in and out of state. Having Hillary in her corner is not exactly shaking pennies out of the piggy bank. See above about connections and rising profile. And I can also see her utilizing the tools and infrastructure built over the last year and a half to start something of a prairie fire of small-donor giving, which can not only sustain her campaign but function as an incredible PR tool as well. Assuming she runs the right kind of campaign and invests heavily in a thorough field operation, win or lose it'll be money well-spent. Not to mention Annie's List having the mother of all races to throw their considerable talents behind.

6)Age/Generation: our lack of quality starters and shallow bench has been a sore spot and discussed ad nauseum here and elsewhere. To bridge the gap between has-beens(Sharp, Cisneros, etc) whose value as standard-bearers is questionable, and the promising young guns (Anchia, Strama, Maldonado, Turner, etc.) who aren't ready for the majors yet, we've basically got LVdP, Noriega, Chet Edwards, and Kirk Watson as plausible top-tier candidates. Of this bunch, LVdP is the most unique and compelling as a statewide, and she has very good ties and admirers on both ends of that gap. Her willingness to work her ass off, be there for her constituents and colleagues, and recruit good staff and get the best out of them , are all difference-making qualities that set her apart from the others who might wade in.

7) She can help us keep women out of the GOP primary, which sticks them with Perry and sets up well to have the wingers  running the show on the other side. Repubs spent a lot of ink, mostly downballot, on race-baiting and war-whooping about immigration, voter ID, guns and bitterness. Against LVdP, they do so at tremendous risk of pushing women, urban elderly, and their last third of the Hispanic vote off the plank and into our lifeboat. It's no secret that urban moderates jumped off en masse last year, but the RPT made up for it by starting rural brush fires of irrational fear and back-porch racism in order to stimulate some of their less reliable but nonetheless like-minded voters. Will those folks show up again, in a midterm, for a party they have no real connection with now floundering? LVdP is not an easy person to demonize and the liberal boogeyman will only get them so far...

8)A jump in Hispanic turnout helps us downballot EVERYWHERE. Unlike Obama, who was a double-edged sword for us outside the urban areas, I think a credible and inspiring Latina candidate at the top of the ballot is a big plus for our statehouse and county tickets and the angry gringo backlash we saw last year will be far less severe, quite possibly putting a few more seats in play and boosting coordinated campaigns wherever they are run. This is the way to seize the opportunity presented by those dubious Gallup ID numbers we saw last week...

As for the Lite Guv idea, yes - I think that could work for Leticia as well, given someone else dynamic and creidble in the Guv slot...Lt. Gov would certainly be right up her alley, and it's much more important in terms of actual legislation getting passed. There are certainly many heads on this hydra, and perhaps it'd be more practical to try and knock them off one at a time, starting with the weakest.

But in the pageantry that is state politics in a midterm election year, for good or ill, the top line is the one that gets the ink and drives the narrative. You have to hunt where the animals are. If LVdP is our strongest narrative, why waste it downticket? Unless the state party is gonna roll out a full slate of serious contenders and launch a coordinated statewide campaign with the cash to ride dirty and a media assault with some teeth this time(and I'm not holding my breath for that one), I think we have to simply to put our best available talent in the skill positions and do whatever we can to help them succeed. Anything else is tantamount to surrender or tilting at windmills, imho.

With all that said, I'm still not sure the numbers even exist to get her over, or anyone else for that matter, in 2010 or any year in the forseeable future.

But the notion of going into this cycle without anything new and compelling at the top of the ballot, right as we're feeling our oats, strikes me as a bit insane, maybe even political suicide. You don't get anything in politics that you don't ask for (except sometimes maybe a drink). Sure, Straus has slapped a quick coat of moderate semi-gloss over the House, but the Senate's a different story, and nothing has really changed in terms of policy goals for the GOP majorities: voter suppression, skyrocketing costs of living (health care, insurance, energy), pillaging our environment and resources, siphoning more money from public education while putting college out of kids' reach...hell, those alone are enough to run a solid campaign on, and that ain't the half of it.

Really folks. Maybe I'm just desperately looking for a way out, but I think Ralph Yarborough is getting tired of rolling over in his grave. Let's give him a rest. Put the wheels in gear and get it moving; if not LVdP, then someone with a fist full of answers and greenbacks who can do a decent imitation of a courageous public servant, and more importantly, let's get all hands on deck to push'em over the top. We can't take much more of this thievery and mendacity. To paraphrase the lady in question, I got kids, man...

 

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valid points (0.00 / 0)
Van de Putte would make a good statewide candidate at some level...but I'm not convinced it is Senator or Governor.

To be successful she is going to need to repair relationships with some Bexar County electeds who feel they haven't always been treated the best by her.

She also needs to pick an office and stick to it. Lt. Guv is such a natural fit, not subject to caps, likely to be an open seat and unlikely to be impacted by the predictable defection of either Sharp or White.

VdP should furthermore make it a top priority to force the formation of a modern, effective, detached coordinated campaign.

Break out the rolodex, start setting up the relationships and endorsements that can bundle big checks.

Pretend no one has run for office statewide in the last 10 years and start from scratch.  There is virtually nothing that is salvageable.


Agree on most of those points (0.00 / 0)
especially the last one, Colin.

But assuming White or Sharp switch races...play that out in a primary for a sec. If she has the early start, she spanks either of them quite handily, imo. Same against the likes of Watson, who makes a good fit as Lt Guv as well. Plays more to his strengths as a pragmatic deal-maker. LVdP is a genuine standard-bearer for our agenda, while Watson, Sharp and White are much more watered down and wind-socky. We've tried that and the results were not encouraging. Fresh blood for us vs. tired old hacks for them sets up much better as a narrative.

Bottom line - a strong LVdP campaign at the top does more to lift everyone else's boat below her. Sharp, White, or Watson for Guv doesn't have the same affect, but steals the media spotlight from anyway, reducing her drawing power for our most important bloc of voters.  


This is the same kind of hyperbolic logic that got Rick Noriega in the 2008 race for Senate... (2.00 / 1)
...all based on insider knowledge and nothing that will really resonate with the public. The senator is a lovely person but no one knows her outside San Antonio and until she becomes a better speaker, no one will care to. It isn't as if she has taken up any cause outside the realm of Democratic boilerplate and "I am woman, I am Hispanic" is a very weak message indeed.  Also, if it's all going to be about race from here on out, perhaps we all should have listened to Tom DeLay in 2004 when he did his damnedest to make sure there was no place for white folks in the Democratic Party.  Is that really what we've become?  

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"No place for white folks in the Democratic Party?" (0.00 / 0)
That's a-mazing.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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Excellent diary (0.00 / 0)
And I saw that you must have been up late at night writing this. I've had several nights of doing the same, but never mustered up the time to write it on BOR like you did.

Thanks for writing it -- I put it on the front page.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


Mathematical possibilities (3.00 / 1)
It can be argued that it was not mathematically possible for an African-American man to be elected President this year.

And... (0.00 / 0)
As was pointed out in the other thread, it was State Representative Rick Perry and County Commissioner Ann Richards before either of them were Governor.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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Well... (3.00 / 1)
Ann Richards was State Treasurer and Rick Perry was Ag Commish and then LG before becoming Gov, so it's somewhat unfair to go to that first office.  That'd be like arguing that Van de Putte is qualified to run for President because Obama served in the State Senate.  

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Great diary (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for writing this Rob and thanks for plugging the Facebook group Phil.


I also meant to add... (0.00 / 0)
that the demographic %s of men/women in the GOP primary might only be altered if LVdP has an opponent as well.
And it goes without saying that in the event KBH wins the GOP nomination, Leticia is obviously better equipped to keep women in our camp in the general.. Whereas if we go with, say, Watson - who's performance as an Obama surrogate was less than stellar - we run the risk of putting off both Hispanics AND women; as the face of the party and our agenda spokesman he's shackled with the double-whammy of being an Austin-centric liberal and an Obama supporter, but as a Lt. Gov candidate he can play more on his strengths and let LVdP do the heavy lifting on the issues and message, which plays more to her strengths.

I'm not buying the Bill White hype; playing Republican-lite will never work with the way the GOP runs it's game in Texas, and shrinking away from a strong progressive message only puts off the base and leaves valuable talent on the sidelines. We need a contender who plays for keeps and inspires other progressives to go the extra mile. And White has no natural base outside of some corporate moneybags and some well-heeled Houston DINOs who were tired of getting left out in the cold. Good luck getting block-walkers for that.  


Well... (0.00 / 0)
I think one must ask, seriously, CAN anyone beat KBH and keep women in our camp?

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That's a fair question (3.00 / 3)
Here's the answer that I find most likely:

If you took a snapshot today, you'd find Hutchison's negatives very low, and her positives very high. Perry has somewhat repaired himself with voters lately too, which probably has to do with public perception of hurricane response, most important in the mother of all media markets, Houston.

But that's today. It's not November of 2010.

Between now and then, it is going to be Rick Perry's job to wake up every morning, and dream up new and improved ways to blame Hutchison for every perceived federal problem. And think what you will about Perry, but he's a great campaigner.

Also between now and then, it is going to be Kay Hutchison's job to wake up every morning, and dream up new and improved ways to blame Perry for every perceived state problem. And think what you will about Hutchison, but there's plenty of Perry material to work with.

In the background of all this will be each of them trying to appeal to a very very conservative Republican likely voter base in their party's primary - one which general election voters in Texas have been increasingly rejecting.

Whichever of them emerges the victor in the Republican primary will go forward with poll numbers among general election voters which look nothing like their poll numbers today. Each is likely to make the other into severely damaged goods.

The Democratic nominee will be in the hunt. Don't let 'em scare you.  

LettersFromTexas.com


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Yes, with a but. (0.00 / 0)
Van de Putte has some serious governing chops. She can push legislation and get stuff done. She is qualified for the job, no argument there.

However, to govern you have to campaign and get elected.

I am watching some clips of her on youtube and she just . . . does not have that "it" factor. Very drone and in a way authoritarian. There is nothing about her in her speaking style that inspires a person to get up and participate in an election on her behalf. She'd have to do a complete personal make over to pull this off, we're talking Nixon's 8 years in exile between Presidential runs makeover.

What I am asking, could Sen. Van de Putte walk into a diner in inner city Houston or Dallas, walk up to the customers and say convincingly "My name is Leticia Van de Putte, I am your Democratic nominee for governor, and I would like to ask for your vote?"

As of right now, I don't see it. I see more of the same style of campaign Bell ran for governor, randomly running around assuming local grassroots have got it taken care of.

A quick note, Bell also was poor when he started on the stump. Something happened at the debate though. He caught fire and each of his stump appearances after that, it was like he was a whole different person. So, change happens (Heck, even Obama had a sudden stylistic change around October/November 2007).


She can work the diner... (3.00 / 1)
If you ever have a chance to spend 5 minutes around Leticia, you'll know she can do the diner.  She's gregarious, funny and unpretentious.

As for speech making, I have found her effective in person.  I've come away thinking she meant what she said, which is my own litmus test for whether a speaker is effective.

Performing for the camera is a different art and one that can be learned without a complete makeover.  I've seen more than a few do it, and she's more than capable.


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Wrong Qualities (1.00 / 1)
"She's gregarious, funny and unpretentious."

That's great for people who were planning on voting and hitting the straight D button. All it does is reinforce their worldview and tell them, yeah, I was going to get the right person.

What about the person who has no idea who is who on the ballot and usually goes for who has the best sounding name?

What you need is inspiration, vision, and confidence. Does she control the entire attitude of the room without an introduction?


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Not the point (0.00 / 0)
There's no doubt VDP can "work the diner." The problem is we don't have her cloned to work all the diners of Texas. Her recognition is not high enough to get past the "who are you" factor to get to the points. For the gubernatorial race you have to have a candidate people know so they get past the familiarity issue. Honestly, if some well qualified candidate from Dallas came to me in Texas I'm going to become skeptical of that candidate until I figure out if they are viable or not.

Now if I know the candidate is viable ahead of time then we've got a different conversation. As was pointed out by David O. (you beat me to the punch) both Richards and Perry were in a statewide office before they went on to take on the gubernatorial run. I'm surprised others didn't make note of that when they put that in.

BTW Robert, as I've stated before, you always keep us thinking and thank you for it. Good points in your posting. I'm still not totally on board but you have given me some better reasons other than she's VDP. Heck, I'd love to have a San Antonio Hispanic female who was my state senator in the newly remodeled governor's mansion. If she does run, I'll be there full force. I'm just not quite there yet to encourage her to run for governor. LG yes.


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Well (0.00 / 0)
Name a Democrat who DOES have that name ID besides John Sharp.

We have to start fresh. With the time and organization, it can be done for her or anybody else who only covers 1/31 of the state right now, if they have the right qualities. I think LVdP does.  


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We've been starting fresh since 1998 (0.00 / 0)
Same results every 2 years.

Time to take something and build on it. Where are the most people? D/FW and Houston. Let's take a microcosm example here and think this out.

Harris County has something like 5 State Senate seats within it as well as 7 Congressional Seats (3 are partial). Now, these legislative seats have been engineered to elect persons of the political extremes, those that grab the base voters. No room for moderates. Is Sheila Jackson-Lee or Al Green able to be elected at a statewide level based on their issue stances? No, but they represent their constituents well, which are well to the left of the state as a whole.

But let's back up. All of these legislative districts are within Harris County, of which Democrats started winning at a county level this last election. While it is only one media market, the entire county is not likely to know their individual legislator, but I bet they are much more likely to know that Adrian Garcia is their Sheriff.

Now, it is much too soon for Garcia to go statewide, but you're looking at a democrat who starts off with a base 5 times that of any state senator. If we start taking these popular officials from the larger counties, they start off stronger than any of our legislators due to their base.

Adrian Garcia for Attorney General 2014?

Besides Lupe Valdez, is there any other charismatic and great communicators in Dallas County? Sheriff Lupe is not applicable until the county jails straighten out whatever problems they are having (I don't know what the problems are, and I'm not here to figure it out, I'm just crunching the numbers on how to get a dem to win statewide and you got some great Republican talking points ready to go on this one, whether or not they are true).


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No we haven't been "starting fresh" (3.00 / 1)
Sanchez was an empty barrel, had ties with Bush, and had no message, no base constituency, and no field operation. Dumb idea.

The party recruited no one for the top races in '06, the slate was a train wreck with no money and no backing and no field (again), and we basically pretended there was no election in order to keep GOP turnout down in our targeted HDs. Bell was on his own.

How is any of that "starting fresh"?

And we can't afford 4 more years of this horseshit. Garcia for AG, in 2014? We've got a Bill Moody who could win it right now. Should we groom and develop some of the new talent? Certainly. But this is not the time to pull back to the trenches, dude. We should be pressing forward while we've got the energy and momentum. There is nothing to be gained by giving Perry or KBH a free ride this cycle, but there's a tremendous opportunity cost for doing so.


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It is starting fresh because (0.00 / 0)
It based upon 0 of what few accomplishments there were in the previous cycles. Bell made some contacts with his e-mail list, I know he has been sharing some of those names in 2008 with some other Harris county candidates. In 2010, we have some networks created from 2006, and even more from 2008, use them.

And yes, Bill Moody would be a fine candidate for something, but do you believe he has the ability to raise $10 million to make a race? If not, our candidates may end up sounding like Roy Morales.

Have a contingency plan. That is why I mentioned Garcia. Play for all the cards today, be ready to win those you didn't get tomorrow.

So again, are there any good county wide candidate that could move statewide in Dallas? Several of these Democrats are moving into a full four or six years in office.


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The star in Dallas County (0.00 / 0)
is Craig Watkins, County DA.  He is getting a lot of notice because of the Innocence Project.  I don't know if he would be interested in running for Texas AG.  I wouldn't consider Lupe Valdez as a charismatic/great communicator.  

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I only mentioned her (0.00 / 0)
cause she was the only one I knew of or had heard of.

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That's why I keep advocating strategy instead of miracles (0.00 / 0)
You make my case Rob. Let's start working on a strategy to win the newly remodeled governor's mansion. I'm tired of us going for "Hail Marys" on this race. I have yet to see a strategy since Ann won.

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Chris Bell... (0.00 / 0)
Really want to use him as an example of someone who did a GOOD job on the stump (well, arguably the word stump is apropos, given he has the creativity of a tree)?  That campaign is a CASE STUDY on how to lose the governor's mansion in spectacular fashion.  I'd argue that whatever we do, it should be the polar opposite of what that campaign did!


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All I am saying (0.00 / 0)
After the debate, Bell had a personal transformation and came across as an engaging candidate in his public appearances from that point onward. However, by that point it was too late to make any difference, there was too little money and no time left to organize. The places to give those speeches were small and full of those who were already going to vote for him. The campaign itself was nothing to be remembered by and has nothing to be emulated.

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The high bar... (3.00 / 1)
You're setting the bar a tad high, don't you think?

Hutchinson and Perry are skilled politicians but hardly big-time performers.  KBH is an aging Barbie who's running out of steam, and the only room Perry ever commanded was his closet (!).

On our side of the aisle, Bill White and John Sharp are very worthy candidates and good communicators, but neither will ever set the world afire as speakers.

The point is that you don't have to be an Obama-level or Richards-level speaker to win the governorship.  You DO have to communicate and connect.  I think VDP can do it.  Perhaps you don't.  I suspect we'll get to find out who's right.


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Yes. (0.00 / 0)
The point is that you don't have to be an Obama-level or Richards-level speaker to win the governorship.

When the deck is stacked* against you, as it is for a statewide run in Texas (until probably 2014) then yes, it is.

*Deck stacking is determined by demographics and level of organization through all the counties as well as the ability to earn free or earned media in the local papers.


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tell Van Os that (0.00 / 0)
being an excellent motivational speaker makes any difference in the world.

tell sylvester turner that being an excellent motivational speaker and being able to raise money makes any difference in the world.

jeff is correct on his critical points about communicating and connecting.  furthermore, i would suggest that succesful campaigns are influenced as much by match up as anything else.

van de putte is certainly far more evolved and advanced than tony sanchez, radnofsky or noriega.

the challenge for VDP is picking the right spot on the ballot, and early.


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That's ridiculous... (0.00 / 0)
...and if you had been paying attention, you would have seen exactly what trowaman is talking about.  Interestingly, it was probably our best opportunity to take the governor's mansion that we'll have in years if we had been smart enough to seize upon the weird dynamic created by the four-way race but the brilliant Dems in charge instead wanted to back Strayhorn and other losers wanted to support Freidman.  As for creativity, Bell threw out one idea after another and quite a few, namely moving away from the TAKS test, have begun to take hold. Those of us who worked that campaign and didn't just sit back and hurl insults were quite proud of the results versus massive odds.  

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campaigning with Bell (0.00 / 0)
As a Texas Senate candidate in 2006, I had the opportunity to campaign with Chris Bell rather a bit in San Antonio and Austin. He had great ideas, and he articulated them well, but early on, he wasn't an energizing speaker, he was, well, boring. He has a very dry sense of humor, but it didn't come across well in the early days. One of the earlier writers is right- he caught fire, but, too late and way too short of money for far too long. The rally we attended in San Antonio just a week before the election was electric- if something like that had been on video early on and on the 'net', it might have been different. (This time the 'net is going to play a MUCH bigger role in the 2010 elections, of course.)
We had so many complications in 2006- talk about a circular firing squad:
1. the "grand masters" in the Dem Party decided off the bat that Chris wasn't the right candidate (and spoke openly about that) and ran, (geez, I can't even remember his name, nice guy, but no new ideas at all)- against Chris in the primary. Once Chris won the primary, they didn't get all behind him, which was a real shame.
2. Other big-moneyed Dems decided that Carole 4 names was the "IT" candidate, so they took their big dollars to her- leaving Chris starved for the money he needed early on. He got the big loan MUCH later, but it was too late at that point.
3. Lots of liberal Dems went with Kinky because they thought it would be fun- "why the heck not", as if our government was a ball game that didn't really matter. Some of my friends campaigned and voted for Kinky- they didn't know Chris, they "knew" Kinky.
So, there you have it, Dems bled out to Carole & Kinky, splitting Dem votes 3 ways, while Republicans were only split between Perry & Carole, so we got Mr. 39%, instead of a governor who had good ideas, who actually cared about the people, not corps. first.
I think Chris Bell is a fine man, and was sad to see him lose the State Senate race this past fall- the people of Houston will not be as well-served as they would have with Chris.

Kathi Thomas, SD 25

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disagree (3.00 / 1)
i've only heard her speak in public about 200 times, but from what i recall she was funny, engaging and substantive.

the gravity of her experience and expertise would be direly needed in a gen election.

that is particularly true if she were to run for lt guv.


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Ok then (0.00 / 0)
She's qualified, I mentioned that in my first sentence.

How do you get people to care?

Using Obama's results as the base, how do you move Harris from 51% -> 55%, Bexar from 53% -> 57%, Dallas from 59% -> 61%, Tarrant from 43% -> 50%, Fort Bend from 49% -> 54%, Montgomery from 27% -> 35%, Galveston from 40% -> 46%, Denton from 38% -> 45%, Collin from 37% -> 42%, Nueces from 47% -> 55% and increase the entire valley's turnout by 10%?

Cause that's what you have to do to win statewide. How do we (or specifically Van de Putte) accomplish that?

*Yes, we probably do not have to move that much in ALL those counties, but we need to come close.


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i quit (0.00 / 0)
you are right. no one can save us. i guess we'll write off the 10 cycle until Jesus H. Christ files papers for his exploratory committee.

i re-read your posts and didn't see a name of who you think is the right person.

a successful ticket is a complete ticket that works together in a coordinated way.

i won't get into the targeting dynamics of a presidential year vs. a non-presidential year, but the numbers are there for our taking should we get so motivated.

as far as caring goes: there were few to no posts about Bill White raising $1.4m, Farrar being elected Caucus Chair, Straus' committee appointments, approps subcommittees, etc. there are substantially more posts here.

i haven't seen anyone suggest that VDP will throw the ticket on her back and carry us to the promise land, but i have seen a lot of folks who think she would be an asset to a statewide ticket.


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Long on miracles, short on strategy (0.00 / 0)
Thanks colin. I agree we seem to keep nickel and diming our way back into prominence in Texas. This may get us further along but it's sure going to cost a lot of money and not provide a good across the board approach. Part of the problem is we seem to think the lower offices are insignificant and not worth investing in. What's up with that?

As has been pointed out several times Ann moved from County Commissioner to Treasurer before Governor. She had statewide recognition when she ran against Clayton. VDP in the LG slot could give her the bully pulpit she would need for statewide discussion. The progression from senator to head of the Senate would be a great story. Everyone knows the power in Texas government lies in the LG and Speaker positions. As it is, when she made the impassioned plea against Voter ID in the Senate I ask how many of you across Texas even knew that happened? It was a great speech but it was to her colleagues and never got out of the Senate.

Okay, we can beat this horse to death. Glen's launched the effort. Progressives are behind it. All of us who have been asking for this approach are just shouting in the wind. I really wish someone in that crew would show me their statewide strategy for a change rather than these single office efforts. Is that really asking too much?


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Not my job (0.00 / 0)
i re-read your posts and didn't see a name of who you think is the right person.

I'm Laying out what has to be done to get to 50%+1. I am asking, very seriously based upon those numerical percentages if we believe that 1) Van de Putte is the most likely candidate to make those gains in those counties and then 2) if she is the most probably candidate available to make those percentage movements.

I want Democrats to hold every office in Texas, but we need to start cracking these numbers apart and figuring what has to be moved and how we move them. So, is Van de Putte the most likely candidate to move those numbers?

My pct went 20-80 for McCain and I've started figuring out to give a strategy to my precinct chair (an old lady who has done to organize in years) how to shoot for a 40-60 goal in the next cycle. I've also been working, coming up with some visual strategy for Denton county. I'm here to do one thing, win.

Jeez, It's like you're arguing "Person X would be a great candidate, this time things will be different." I mean, What is the strategy, what is the goal, do they know what the strategy is to get over the hump, does this candidate possess the abilities to win? If she's the best we got, then yeah, I'll back her. But she has some areas to improve on in regards to her communications skills, all I'm asking is does she possess the innate charisma to become an effective charisma (y'know, speaking TO idiots), and have the ability to raise $15 million so as to compete and drive the narrative? Previously someone said I said I set the bar a bit high, well hell yes I did! The results won't ever be as high as the goal, but you need to shoot high enough to clear the low bar when things fall apart.

And yes, I know about Pres vs. off-year elections. See Oklahoma for the 100% dem bench on off year elections, vs. say their corporation commissioner who got bounced this year for having a D next to his name.


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The corporation commissioner candidate was openly gay (0.00 / 0)
I gave him money via the Victory Fund but give me a break--a gay candidate in Oklahoma with a black man at the top of his ticket would have trouble winning against the devil.

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I thought he was the incumbent. n/t (0.00 / 0)


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Only appointed to fill an unexpired term (0.00 / 0)
He had never been elected statewide before, just in Oklahoma County (where 'liberal' Oklahoma City is).

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Thats' just it... (4.00 / 2)
Obama's results don't mean as much you think.  It's a gubernatorial year, not a presidential year.  Turnout will be about 10 points lower than in '08 and the makeup of the electorate will change.

Just as important, Obama spent little in Texas.  If his ads had been on the air here at the same level they were in, say, North Carolina, he would have done far better.

Finally, no less than the Tarrance Group -- a leading Republican polling firm -- warned of continuing Republican erosion after polling Texas a month or so ago.

The governor's office will not be given to VDP or any Democrat.  We'll have to fight very hard and very smartly for it.  We might need a little luck.  But we don't need some hyper superstar to win and we don't need to sit on our ass until 2014.  We need to go for it now.


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hey now (5.00 / 1)
i agree.

we remember when we "took a cycle off to save up for 02"...that didn't work real well for our marginal districts (montoya coggins, sneary, etc).

not sold on who will sit where, but agree wholly with jeff that we can't keep waiting. we gotta make a run at it now.

see associate republicans of texas circa 96, 98.


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Correct (0.00 / 0)
We do need to go for not just the governor's mansion (or what's left of it) but we need to go for Lt. Gov, Attorney General, and a few other offices as well in 2010. Top of the ticket feeds bottom of the ticket success (and the bottom feeds the top).

However, I'm asking is Van de Putte the best vehicle to get us there, or should we look to the private sector for a Mark Warner?

This goes back to my original argument. I am not seeing Van de Putte able to be a great communicator and I am unsure if she can raise the funds to compete. I am not convinced she can rise to the challenge of being the best candidate possible.

She does seem like a good fit for Lt. Gov, but I think there may be someone out there who we can draft for the top of the ticket (I have no idea who, but maybe there is someone).

However, if she is the only vehicle in town (not named Kinky, who I will never support) then alright, I'm on board.


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There isn't. (0.00 / 0)
Noriega, LVdP, Watson, Edwards. That's pretty much it.

There's no magic millionaire out there for us. That's the cop-out strategy. Pushing a worthy and hard-working progressive with a comprehensive campaign and a full slate of solid candidates below them - that's the job before us.  


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The 3 Keys (0.00 / 0)
Governor, Lt. Governor and Attorney General are the top concerns for statewide offices in 2010. Picking up more State Reprentatives and State Senators for redistricting is also a do or die effort that needs to be made. No magic bullets, just do it.

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She will do great (0.00 / 0)
What makes her not be a good fit atop the ticket?

You're asking for some private sector, polished communicator, Mark Warner-type? I don't think we need a businessman to lead us to victory.

I think Senator Van de Putte has passion, heart, and the charisma to connect to voters. I think she has the narrative to tell a great story, and use that story as a vehicle for her policies. And I think she has the testicular fortitude that most businessmen sorely lack when it comes to Texas politics.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


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Whoa now (0.00 / 0)
Calm down Phil, this has nothing to do with one's personal sex. It's about who has the greatest chance to win. Heck I never even said "businessman," I said "private sector."

For reference, after SHE gets her first re-election, I plan to start pushing Wendy Davis for whatever statewide office she wants. She is my favorite candidate in our state legislature stable.

But we're playing for 2010, so Phil, do you believe of the 6 million+ (or whatever the number is) is Sen. Van de Putte the best possible option to lead us, WIN, and build the progressive brand?


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Yes (0.00 / 0)
Absolutely.

And there's no need to tell me to calm down. There's a huge piece in the San Antonio Current all about Senator Van de Putte, and then an amazing 1,700 word diary from a precinct captain in Bastrop discussing her story, her narrative, and her overall political strengths. Your concerns/questions are the right ones...but they don't pertain to Senator Van de Putte at all.

Do we have a statewide GOTV plan to win? I don't know, but she's not the one who does that. She has to help raise the money to make that happen, I'd guess, but that would never be her role in the campaign. She would (as you suggested) need to shake hands and give the speeches that brought people into her campaign that were motivated enough to go work on her behalf.

To that extent -- look at all this buzz! We keep getting new comments in the middle of a Saturday night! I can't help but read and respond to this post before I go to bed, because I'm so interested in defending someone and fighting for someone who isn't even a candidate yet. She has over 340 Facebook supporters in about 3 days, and they're all fairly eager to jump into this race. Matt, KT and I are all unanimous in the idea that she'd do excellent; the last time all three of us were this much behind a candidate was when we were opposed to Craddick.

I don't know if she will or not; and if she doesn't, I hope she sees this support as a signal for the opportunities that are available to her in the future. But damn, if she does pull the trigger in June...it's going to be an incredibly exciting time.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


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Agreed (3.00 / 1)
Her speech at the state convention was so over-the-top that I walked out.  Her voice was like fingernails on a chalkboard; I simply could not stand to hear her.  My thought was "Please, God, never put her in a position of authority."  It would take an awful lot to get rid of the bad taste she left.  Outside the legislature, I see her as an extremely alienating factor among all but the anointed faithful.  She would alienate undecideds of all stripes.  The more she campaigns publicly, the worse she will do.  Folks without an agenda to push will so no reason to like her, and no reason to think she can unify the state or govern.

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A strong case for LVdP at the top of the ticket (0.00 / 0)
You make a good case that LVdP potentially has big coattails. That means she belongs at the top of the ticket, not running for something like LG. She'd be a good LG, mind you, and would be a credible candidate, but her presence on the LG ballot would do almost no good for the rest of the ticket. As a gubernatorial candidate, win or lose, she'll do a world of good for the party.

Does her Senate term expire in 2010 or 2012? If 2012, does she have to resign to run for governor? I'd hate to lose her in the Senate.  


Yes but it doesn't win the ticket (0.00 / 0)
You talk about the rest of the ticket. It's good to carry the ticket but if we keep losing the marquee races we keep losing the marquee races. Let's set a strategy to win them for goodness sakes. What's so hard to understand about that? Tee her up thru LG to G. Are we missing something there?

In a game what do you look for - the obscure interception or the winning quarterback? Sorry but I had to get us out of the rhetoric. It was fun though.


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I'd love to win the governor's mansion, (0.00 / 0)
and we need to win some statewide offices to get experienced candidates who can win the governorship.  But we can't win anything statewide if we don't have a strong candidate at the top of the ticket. IMO, we have a better chance of winning LG or AG or (fill in your favorite state office) with LVdP running for governor than with LVdP running for LG and a nobody running for governor.

I'd be happier still if White and Sharp were running for governor and LVdP were running for LG, but that's not happening. Among the possible gubernatorial candidates that have surfaced so far, LVdP gives us the strongest ticket, the strongest chance of our winning some statewide office in 2010, and the strongest chance of our winning the governor's mansion in 2014. Not to mention the best showing in the legislative races.  


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Free Ride for 2010 (3.00 / 1)
LVdP's senate term expires 01/2013. Sen. Watson expires 01/2011, so no free ride for him. "New and compelling at the top of the ballot" is a very good call by the Sage of Bastrop. This is the best idea I have heard thus far.

If KBH just runs for Governor without resigning before the General Election, chances are either White or Sharp (or both) will switch to the Governor's race. Then, either way, one becomes Governor or is best positioned to win a Special Election for KHB's Senate seat should she become Governor.

Whatever happens, LVdP for either Governor or Lite Governor is a good solid move for all the right reasons listed in the main post above.


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She would do well to consider Comptroller or Lt. Gov first (0.00 / 0)
She isn't known throughout the state and, well, she backed the wrong Presidential candidate.  

Maybe not the best year to top the ticket.  

Still, she has the resume for a down ballot position that's more 'insider' oriented.  Comprtoller has the key role in setting the biennial budget--the revenue estimate.

Lt. Governor cracks the whip over the state Senate.  That body is likely to remain in GOP hands unless the redistricting board lays down the slap after 2010.


re: "she backed the wrong Presidential candidate. " (0.00 / 0)
Wow. Really surprised to see this brought up almost a year after the Texas primary.

Should we just go ahead and cede the 200+ counties that voted for Clinton. Give me a break.

There are plenty of great Democratic officeholders that backed Obama and that backed Clinton.

Yes, 2010 may be a longshot for us here in Texas but it a certain defeat if we do not have 100% Democratic unity. Comments like yours serve only to discourage that.


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She backed the nominee (0.00 / 0)
Okay we've all moved past this a LONG TIME AGO. Welcome to 2009 irvingguy. We are focused on building a Blue Texas. Comments like this are pretty regressive and seem to hold grudges. Everyone I know has started working together.

Guess you didn't get the memo.


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Uh, no (0.00 / 0)
it wasn't  the "wrong" candidate in Texas, or for her constituents.

This is part of what I was talking about with regards to her role in the primary and afterward. She busted her tail for her candidate in the primary and then supported our nominee in the general.  


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Van de Putte for Gov. (0.00 / 0)
Over a month ago,I decided that VdP needed to be our candidate for governor in 2010:) I came to the conclusion that the only way we win is to have someone who can beat both Rick Perry and KBH. I think that if we don't have a good candidate for governor, Dem. women, especially, will cross over in the primary to vote for KBH, as it will be their only real chance to vote for governor. HOWEVER, if we have a strong candidate, then our good Dems should realize that Perry will be easier to beat-moderate Republicans despise him, too. What if KBH should pull a rabbit out of the hat and win the primary with the GOP base? Who could beat her- not any man that I know of, to be honest. So, I got to thinking, what woman do we have who could hand KBH her walking papers, and it didn't take long to realize that it is VdP. I'd seen a write up about a book about her in the Austin Statesman not long before I began thinking about this, which is probably why her name came to me so quickly. I looked at every angle, and I couldn't see any flaws in her running- and winning. She'd be a great head of the ticket, I think that Dems would work their fannies off for her. She's smart, well-liked, a great leader, and being Latina is a definite plus. I started mentioning her name to folks as "what do you think about LVcP for governor, and, with one exception, the responses were all "great idea!" (The one exception was someone who doubted that anyone could raise the money it will take to beat KBH, but I believe she can do it!)
I'd love to see her run, and I'll certainly do all the work I can to elect her.

Kathi Thomas, SD 25

Stop chasing unicorns (4.00 / 2)
Who are all these magical well-known Texas Democrats that we would run instead?

Our party sucks. We haven't won a statewide race in 15 years. In 2006 we had a great shot at it, but "leading Democrats" (such as they are) were too scared of Strayhorn and too emotionally wounded from the Kirk/Sanchez fiasco to go after it. But worse than just sitting on the sidelines licking our wounds, we actively obstructed our own statewide ticket, because they weren't anointed by the people who matter in our party (a group that apparently doesn't include many Democrats).

And now we see the same pattern of cowardice-as-strategy setting up around KBH, and the absurd fantasy that if we just wait around for the GOP to fuck up enough, some wonderful progressive trial lawyer billionaire will ride up on his recumbent commuter bicycle and save the party from it's own lack of message, candidates or relevance.

So now somebody who isn't part of the Austin bubble is being floated as a candidate. And even though the worst that could happen is the same result we've been getting for 15 years, Some people want her to be comptroller or something first because apparently they think that we've got this queue of awesome Democrat office holders in line to be Gov or Gov lite first.  Bullshit.

People say LVdP isn't well known outside of San Antonio? At least San Antonio is a big city. Ask Kirk Watson how being popular in Austin goes as a statewide candidate.

As Robert mentioned- the best thing about LVdP is that she likely would improve our performance downballot, where Republicans have some drop-off, and improve it by increasing turnout in the most strategic demographic segments in our state. Let's say for the moment she loses- chances are we win some local races and build our bench, which in the long haul is how we're going to rebuild our party. Waiting for the way-back machine to transport us to 1990 hasn't been working.


Contradictions all over your comment (4.00 / 2)
You gripe about us not winning in 15 years and then gripe about us talking about setting a strategy. Look you don't win when you don't have a strategy to win. I'd be tickled pink (er blue) if we had candidates in place to advance up the ticket. Richards, our last D governor, was Treasurer BEFORE she was governor. What's too hard to understand about that? She keynoted at the Convention which gave her even more notoriety.

VDP chaired at the convention which gives her about 5-10 minutes a night on the tube. That's not a keynote. No recognition there.

I live in SD 26 and I can probably go around and ask the average voter if they knew who VDP was and probably get a so-so response. She's popular with the Ds but those are the active Ds. I think many of us are actually looking at a strategy to win the gubernatorial seat with a good run and not a miracle campaign. I WANT to see VDP in the governor's office and not lose the race. There's a way to make that happen and it starts with laying groundwork. What's so hard about that?

But, then again, a bunch of us are just commenting from the side. We're not the super effective party officials who have scored big results for Ds in the statewide offices during the past 15 years. Wait, that strategy has never existed. Oh well.


[ Parent ]
So (0.00 / 0)
who's your candidate for Governor, then?

Rahm wasn't disagreeing with you about strategy - quite the contrary.

Just bagging the Gov's race in 2010 isn't strategy either.

In any case, this all has less to do with who the candidate is than it has to do with running a real campaign, with a concise message, offering voters clear, immediate, and certain positive outcomes to electing Democrats to statewide office - backed up with a comprehensive grassroots ground game top get our voters out. I just happen to think that LVdP is better equipped to be the standard-bearer for such a campaign - assuming she has a solid ticket of hard-working candidates downballot who are staying on-message and doing their part to raise $$ and motivate more Democrats in their strongholds.    


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I don't have one for governor in 2010 (0.00 / 0)
I do have one for LG in 2010 who I would like to see run for governor in 2014. That candidate is State Sen. Leticia Van De Putte. But apparently everyone in here has already tagged her for the top slot. So I'm outta here on further comment.

Strategy takes time to build and grow which Democrats apparently don't seem to be able to have patience for. We run a ticket that's not coordinated, not connected, or not focused on the long-term. It's really become a toss-up every time I walk into the voting both and look at the ticket. I vote primarily out of faith in the party but the independent or middle of the road voter doesn't do that. They vote the familiar. Any dispute on that fact?

We're in a recession and probably will be in 2010. You're going to ask people to fork out scarce money for a campaign for governor we probably won't win. Maybe you're loaded enough to pour it in. I'm targeting my money for the key races we need to build a stronger, bluer Texas.

Finally regarding your campaign points, that's sound campaigning but you seem to diminish the recognition factor. In fact you blow it off as insignificant. I would applaud a downballot that looked like you describe. I just haven't seen one on the D side in a long time.


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I'm tired of this same old attitude (0.00 / 0)
You can get name recognition with the proper funding of a candidate.  Yes - Ann Richards was a state wide office holder, however, she won because her opponent, who had never held any office and was an unknown, came out with gems like "Getting rape is like the weather - there is nothing you can do about it so you might as well enjoy it".  Clayton Williams had the money and almost became our governor. It will depend how D's versus R's are perceived in 2010.  Whether LVP is the best candidate to run in that spot, is up for debate.  I met her in Denver, she (and AT&T) hosted a lovely party for us Texas delegates and was very cordial.  I didn't really think of her as a Governor, but I am open to it.

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