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Obama - Not Running Behind


by: david.broockman

Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 04:35 PM CDT


(Cool stuff from Texas' new youngest national convention delegate.   - promoted by Karl-Thomas Musselman)

While Democratic Congressional candidates have been polling sky-high between 60-65%, Obama is only around a mere 53% against John McCain -- and so they're saying en masse that this is evidence that Obama is a bad candidate.

But Presidential candidates are always "behind" by that much, historically -- below is a graph of Presidential Results and Congressional Results for every election since 1952 by Congressional district.

The green diagonal line is the pattern we'd see if Presidential candidates routinely did as well as Congressional candidates. But clearly, they don't. Saying Obama's running behind because Democratic candidates for Congress are doing so well is just untrue; in fact, when Congressional Dems hover around 60%, our Presidential candidates usually barely break even.


Note for nerds: the dotted lines represent the 95% confidence interval while the dots represent observations binned by 0.5% buckets.

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53%? (0.00 / 0)
According to Pollster.com, Obama has been above 50% twice in the past month or so.

I haven't seen many recent public polls showing him at 53%.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/...


Two-party vote share (3.00 / 1)
Sorry for not being specific enough. This refers to two-party vote share -- that is, you take the percentage of the two-party vote, so 45.9/(45.9+43.5), for example, since the remaining percentage doesn't really matter in American politics.

Politics is not the art of the possible, but of making things possible.

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I've been looking into this phenom as well. (0.00 / 0)
What most people don't report is a difference of .5% in the popular vote is worth a good +/- 15-20 electoral votes.  I know poblano has covered this before, but I'm still playing around with my own spreadsheet math that covers this phenomenon.

Also, there's a whole school of thought that suggests that congressional districts do not correlate at all to presidential vote.  That is, the "coattail" effect is actually an aberration rather than the norm.  Only in huge landslide years (+5-10% differences) does the coattail effect actually occur.  Again, I need to play with my Excel sheets some more before I can prove this...but it's pretty interesting to see how the CW is actually quite wrong on a great many things.


Coat tails (0.00 / 0)
I just wrote a paper on this stuff. The biggest thing I found was the occurrence of coattails does not exist, it's just a nice excuse to make things easier to explain to the masses.

There is one exception though. Coattails may exist so long as two campaigns openly and regularly appear with each other. For example, should Obama appear in Oregon and crack a commercial or two for Merckley in the US Senate race there, I'd bet Merckly would win due to "coattails." Coattails don't just occur, they are created by both campaigns working directly together.


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So this is going by generic dem congress vote? (0.00 / 0)
I assume also for generic dem nationwide?  

Explanation? (0.00 / 0)
Does anyone have an explanation for this empirical data? Any theories.  It is interesting that Dem Pres candidates run ahead of Dem Congressional candidates up until maybe 48% and then behind them over that.

interesting but... (3.00 / 1)
the chart is lacking in historical specificity. given the current circumstances, some think the democratic candidate should be polling much higher than Obama is currently. they might be just worryworts, but they might have a point, in which case these concerns should probably not be dismissed by data-trend analysis, but rather addressed directly to see if there is or is not any good reason to be worried.

my own view, for what it's worth, is that Barack has indeed lost major ground by being forced so quickly onto defense, and that his best strategy now would be to immediately go on offense in an attempt to redefine McCain's image. this does not necessarily mean taking the "low road," as some have suggested, but I believe Obama himself needs to articulate an honest but thorough attack on McCain and the prospect of another republican administration.


hmmm (0.00 / 0)
I would also like to see Obama on the offensive.

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