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Why I Agree With Randi Shade on Barton Springs


by: Phillip Martin

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:37 PM CDT


Key Point: The lesson from "The Unforeseen" I took away was that we have to learn how to work in harmony, think in long-term plans, and appropriately envision how to protect our open/green spaces. Politically speaking, that includes taking measures to prevent developers from going to the Legislature with enough leverage/energy to trample the S.O.S. ordinance -- which was Shade's point, and why I agree with her.

I begin this journal by saying that I love Barton Springs as much as anyone, and I'm about as anti-development as they come. I want Showdown to stay, I think it's crap that Las Manitas is being replaced, and I've signed more S.O.S. petitions than I can count. I've got a painting of Barton Springs hanging on my wall in my Boston apartment -- so respect where I'm coming from when I say that I agree with Randi Shade on Barton Springs.

Earlier, our writer Mark Duncan wrote a journal titled, "Shade Proclaims Austin Should Negotiate Away Barton Springs." I was alarmed, astonished -- until I read what she actually said, and how grossly (re: politically) her remarks have been interpreted:

What I told him was how sad it made me to see it result in legislative action. That the will of the citizens was ... of Austin was basically taken by legislative process. And that there wasn't a better compromise that made everybody a winner. Because really when you saw the original proposal less land would have been developed than what ultimately did get developed. And I just ... You know I think that was what I was talking about, the importance of compromise. It was in the context of the Domain subsidies discussion that we were having."

Those remarks sound like she's lamenting the fact that legislative action took place -- and I agree. In the comments to Mark's post I remarked that a good political leader will anticipate the next move of their "opponent." So when the law gutting the S.O.S. ordinance was passed then vetoed by Governor Richards in 1993, what happened? Because that exact same bill passed two years later -- and in those two years, knowing that it still lived there, any number of things could have been done to seek a compromise.

We need crusaders for a cause -- they are absolutely necessary, and I'm one of them when it comes to Barton Springs Pool. But I can't see every political reality out there, and that's where I trust my City Council Members to look out for what is a reality. And the reality is that, if something is in the Legislature, one city isn't going to stop it -- and unless the Speaker of the House is from Austin, you're very unlikely to build enough partners in the Legislature to save your cause. What needed to happen from Richards' veto in 1993 and Bush's signature in 1995 was a compromise, pure and simple -- and we needed the City Council to figure out how to make that happen.

Why I Trust Randi Shade 

There's never been anything that has given me the impression that Shade doesn't appreciate Barton Springs. She speaks openly and publicly about it, and about protecting it. From the Clean Water Action / Texas Vote Environment Questionairre:

In general, I believe we should continue buying as much land as possible over the Edwards Aquifer and unfailingly rotect what we already have. I will be an advocate for strict enforcement of the SOS rdinance and will work to advance policies that result in the reduction of pollutants flowing nto the Barton Springs watershed and other urban watersheds.
Additionally, there is her answer to the Sierra Club Questionnaire:
Question: Despite a lot of talk, water quality in Barton Springs has deteriorated significantly in the past ten ears. What will you do to protect Barton Springs?

Shade: If elected to the City Council I will be a consistent advocate for the strict enforcement of the SOS ordinance and will work with the rest of the City Council and the community at large to advance policies that result in the net reduction of pollutants flowing into the Barton Springs watershed. Barton Springs Pool is the “soul of the city,” and the fight to protect the quality of water in the Barton Springs watershed is representative of the larger fight to protect and improve water quality everywhere.

I'm not going to find someone who's perfect to run for City Council. But Shade has done numerous things that has impressed me and allowed me to trust her throughout her campaign:

  1. She's open and honest with the community. Find her controversial at times, disagree with her, but you know where she is. Her blogging here at BOR has impressed me, and if I at least know what a City Council member is thinking then I know that I need to change his/her mind. I never knew what Kim might do, so Shade is an improvement over Kim.

  2. She understands partnering with adversaries. Partnering with adversaries doesn't mean caving, it doesn't mean selling out, and it doesn't mean kowtowing to their wishes. Partnering with adversaries has the same positive benefit as being open with the community --- you know what "the other" is thinking/saying, so you aren't blindsided by it and can manage their needs and hungers.

    Does Shade have more developer friends/supporters than Kim? Maybe. Matt says so, and I fully trust Matt. But is that inherently bad? If the candidate demonstrates a pattern of being out of touch with the community, yes. But Shade has shown no signs of such aloofness (unlike Kim), and I think there is value in having a City Council Member that understands all the factions in the system.

  3. She understands the roles we play. Shade knows there are diehards -- like many of you, and like me -- on things like Barton Springs, and she knows she's got to be responsive to those voices. When asked the question in the audience (provided Mark's report was correct, and I trust that it is), she answered the question in a context, and didn't take it personally. Beyond someone who can manage others in a group system, leaders must be able to control their own passions and act as a lighting rod for the community -- and then, once the storm passes, focus on the real adaptive work that needs to be done. Kim has never shown to be much a leader (more of a follower) on a lot of issues, which doesn't impress me.

Shade would be closely watched if/when she is elected to the Austin City Council. I've never read or heard anything from her that suggests political scheming. Her remarks -- which Mark and others have found so offensive -- weren't a reflection of someone who was out to "negotiate away" Barton Springs. Her remarks were a reflection of an honest politician, discussing how difficult the tradeoffs can be in the highly charged political world, and how sad it is when the soul of the city --- her words, not mine --- comes under threat from development.

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1990s council (2.00 / 1)
I'm sure the old-timers could provide more detail, but as far as I'm aware, the Council didn't turn green until the late 1990s. Bruce Todd was Mayor in 1995, and he can hardly be considered an environmentalist.  I really don't think you have the full context of the time period.  I didn't get here until 1999, but since I work on these issues I make it my prerogative to always ask those who fought the wars about the history and to sop it up as much as I can.

From what I understand, the state-level grandfathering was always the game plan of the developers after they lost at Council.  They never had any intent to compromise, because they knew they could get their way in the Lege.  To say that we should have compromised with them is to deny the fact that we had no leverage (especially after Ann was defeated).  From my short time actually working on the issue, I've learned that developers never give anything away unless they have to.

As for Randi, I think she has her heart and mind in the right place, but is still learning the depth of the issues.  Many of the environmentalists I work with have been engaged in these battles for over 30 years (some, like Shudde Fath, for twice that long).  There's an immense amount of prior history that she doesn't have, which can lead to mistakes and misjudgements such as this one.  

That's not to say she wouldn't be a good Council Member.  I honestly think she's been forced to the right a bit because so many of the traditional Austin liberals have backed Jennifer.  

I'll add one thought:  If you believe in compromise and you believe in protecting the aquifer, you should be doing everything you can to promote TDR schemes like the one Cid Galindo is proposing.  I'm not saying you have to like Cid, just his plan. :) The current compromise holding serve at the council is that developers can do whatever they want as long as they abide by SOS.  Well, SOS isn't good enough, and 20 years from now it'll be too late.  The only solution is to own the land or the development rights, and we have no money to do either.


OK (2.00 / 1)
I appreciate the history -- what you wrote gels with my general understanding of the time period. But if that's the case, then drawing a line in the sand and getting steamrolled by developers in the Legislature is far, far worse than having it happen in the City Council.

It's (lots of) times easier to chance a city ordinance than to change a state statute.

As for what could have happened between 1993 and 1995 -- I don't know. As I wrote above, I count on the City Council Members to understand all of the political realities for me, so long as they damn well take seriously my position of protecting Barton Springs. And right now, going forward --- because rehashing 15 years ago isn't getting us anywhere --- what I want with a Council Member is someone that can see the whole field, and I have more confidence that Shade can do that than Kim can.

I'm not familiar enough with the TDR proposals you're referring to. Shoot me an e-mail or respond with a link and I'll take a look at it.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
a couple caveats (2.00 / 1)
one is that TDRs are not a new idea, Leffingwell's SOS redevelopment ordinance has a TDR component, although it essentially transfers development to grayfield sites over the aquifer rather than off the aquifer (still a net win).  Also, there was some talk of making Mueller a TDR plan with Stratus
trading SW Pkwy land for the development rights, but that deal fell through because the Council didn't think Stratus could do New Urbanism right.  Block 21 was also supposedly considered for TDR, but didn't happen.

Second, many are skeptical that we can make it happen.  TDR requires the city trading development value for land, so a lot of things have to line up -- political will, developer value, etc.  The city is trying to fund a lot of things right now like affordable housing, and we're currently $20 million over budget on the next cycle.

that being said, I'll point to Cid's site since he's been the most vocal.

Here's a 2 page pdf with Cid's basics:

http://www.cidgalindo.com/Sust...

And here's the city's description of TDRs:

http://www.waterqualityplan.or...


[ Parent ]
A bit much (0.00 / 0)
To state that the developers wouldn't have compromised at all because they'd eventually win at the state legislature ignores the fact that they then had to wait X years and spend N dollars and deal with the bad PR (if any; I'm not sure anybody out there even cares, but maybe a few do - for instance, I'm amazed anybody can take Circle C Democrats seriously when they're crapping all over the springs).

Granted, the developers would have had a strong position, and might not have given much away - but it would have been better than what actually happened.


[ Parent ]
development (0.00 / 0)
The way land development/speculation works is you only develop what you have the capacity to build and sell now.  It requires enormous upfront building and marketing costs with a significant lead time.  Waiting to get the right deal from the Lege will cost you a few years delay, but that's not quite as big of a deal when you're looking at a 30-year build-out schedule.  It's much better to get your maximum value out of all the property than compromise on all the property to get a short-term profit.  The property on SW Pkwy that Stratus just got upzoned had been held dormant for 30 years and they supposedly had a 20-year-old or so grandfather clause on it.

And I've never seen any evidence that "it would have been better than what actually happened."  There's been a lot of development, but most of it in the last decade or so has been SOS-compliant (due to what seems to be an informal truce), which is at least better than the original plans.  The original Bradley plans were quite intense.


[ Parent ]
You're cherrypicking (0.00 / 0)
Your list is mainly the recent properties - zoned/planned under the Watson/Slusher compromise council. I'm thinking of Circle C itself and other developments of that vintage.

[ Parent ]
what list? (0.00 / 0)
I only mentioned one property that is representative of about 20 others along SW Pkwy.  Look for them all to be built over the next 10-15 years.

But back to Circle C and others of the vintage, not all of it was built out, hence the $100 million bankruptcy.  Are we arguing about how much of it we could have stopped using different tactics?


[ Parent ]
Yes (0.00 / 0)
Circle C would have turned out a lot differently if built today. Today, when you zoom in, it's standard Round Rock style suburbia - not large lot stuff that you or somebody else mentioned elsewhere.

[ Parent ]
yeah (0.00 / 0)
but what does that have to do with a compromise in 1992?  New Urbanism was barely off the ground then, with Celebration 4 years off.  Large lot is the traditional development pattern in the region and generally conforms with SOS, so there's no reason they couldn't have done that anyway.  It was the suburban density that was the problem.

[ Parent ]
The compromise (0.00 / 0)
Circle C built medium-density suburban because they didn't have any restrictions at all - as you noted, many but not all of the developments since then have gone large lot (low-density suburban) or at least clustered either because they voluntarily compiled with SOS or negotiated such a compromise, or in a FEW rare cases, chose it on their own.

I'm not talking about new urbanism here - just the difference between Round Rock suburban and a more rural layout. I think both suck, in other words, but 100 houses in a sucky layout are going to pollute less than 800 houses in a sucky layout. That was obvious in 1992.

If I was to take anybody's side, it'd be the few folks in Oak Hill who are trying to get a high density town center built in one or two places to replace all the old crappy strip malls. Neither here nor there though.


[ Parent ]
So - Where are the "Real" Dems Allowed to Live??? (0.00 / 0)
I don't really get the side-swipe at folks living in SW Austin and the Circle C area who are working to organize the party out here on a grass roots level. Why the contempt? Thousands of DEMS have moved here (many from out of state or other parts of Texas) since 2000 - and the diversity of views continues to grow.

I understand and sympathize with the emotionalism of this particular issue - but the fact is, for most new folks down here, when it comes to Austin politics, 1995 might as well be 1895. It's a mistake to dismiss us based on the zip code. Why not reach out? Educate? Build for the future?


[ Parent ]
Are you kidding me? (1.00 / 3)
You can't be an environmentalist and live in Circle C. Period.

[ Parent ]
I would slightly amend that (1.00 / 1)
to "choose to live".  I'll grant exceptions to those whose parents raised them there or have experienced conversions and aren't yet able to get out of dodge.  Since I'm the (self-appointed) Environmental Pope of this list, I can grant such dispensations.

[ Parent ]
Gee, that's tolerant! (0.00 / 0)
Just how much time is granted after seeing the light for one to move to "Greener" pastures before being damned by the all-wise environmentalist Dems?

In the case of moving away from parents wicked enough to have raised their children in Circle C, are occasional visits allowable (if penance is made in the form of a donation to SOS or Greenpeace)? Or should one be limited to occasional phone calls or emails? Or, for the sake of saving one's soul, would it be best to have no contact at all?

Hope is not a plan.


[ Parent ]
Why the rating: (2.00 / 3)
This statement, I think, embodies the "one" rating.  With a short sentence, m1ek was able to judge the cares and concerns of tens and thousands of people.  What did this offer to our discussion?  That m1ek thinks he is a better environmentalist than everyone in Circle C.  That doesn't offer much.  

That is extremely helpful, however, in efforts to further divide Democrats and stunt the growth of support.  This election cycle has done more to bring out Democrats in odd places than any before.  Let's not scare them back into hiding.


[ Parent ]
Living in Circle C and claiming to be an environmentalist (1.00 / 1)
is like working for Exxon-Mobil but claiming to be an environmentalist. Seriously. I'm sure there's a few folks at E-M who think they're changing it from the inside, but they're really being co-opted or are fooling themselves.

If you moved to Circle C and didn't know what you were getting into, fine. You do now. You can claim to be fooled; or you can not care; but the facts on the ground are that people can't live in that kind of subdivision on that terrain without causing substantially disproportionate pollution to the treasured jewel of Austin.


[ Parent ]
Gee - thanks for the lecture! (1.50 / 2)
Now that we know we'll never be "ideologically pure" in your eyes, perhaps we should just hide our heads in shame, switch over to the GOP, vote for John McCain and let great DEMS like Valinda Bolton get roasted come November??

Don't bet on it.


[ Parent ]
Time to Get Real (0.00 / 0)
I guess folks in the SW will never be "pure enough" for you - but politically, your approach is seriously unreal and dismissive. Perhaps you would prefer we all just keep our mouths shut and / or switch to the GOP? Vote for John McCain? Give up on Valinda Bolton and elect another Keel to the legislature??

There are thousands of solid DEM votes in this area - and the number continues to grow. To pretend they don't exist - or even actively shun them - makes no sense.


[ Parent ]
The Showdown Closing (0.00 / 0)
I only made it to the word "Showdown" before I had to stop and comment.  How can anyone aspire to be a political outlaw when the only places to drink in the center of town are places with music thats too loud and too bad and drinks that are too expensive?  Thank the Lord we still have Scholz and the relatively new (but already feels like home) Barton Springs Saloon.  If I go to one more damn bar that says "I'm sorry, we don't carry Lonestar..."

Sorry.  I was born and raised in Austin, and yet this is my first "why-the-hell-is-Austin-changing-so-much" rant.  I try to keep them at a minimum, but every now and then one just has to come out.


even scholz is getting too expensive (0.00 / 0)
I'm going to miss the Showdown.  I'll vote for whichever candidate gets them their lease back.

[ Parent ]
I never really got the attraction (0.00 / 0)
of Scholz.  There's a lot of history of course, but the beer selection is merely decent and the food sucks.  Maybe it's their history that makes them attractive, but I prefer the Dog and Duck in that area.  Of course, I also hate Kerby Lane, Threadgills, Hoffbrau's, El Patio, and Players, so flame away!

[ Parent ]
Kerbey Lane?? (0.00 / 0)
I practically lived there when I was in school, and it is one of very few places in town that I trust to actually be vegetarian when something says it is vegetarian.

I don't eat at Scholz's (maybe an occasional nacho), only been to Dog & Duck once, and I bet there's nothing I could eat at the Hoffbrau. For eating out, I stick to about 5 or so restaruants. It's easier to just cook my own food. But, while we're on the subject of food -- I'm researching for a diary on DK about veg eating in Austin, with an emphasis on downtown (walkable from the convention center), second tier will be easliy bus-able from the convention center. So - if you know of good veg or veg-friendly places, please let me know. You can e-mail me at anotherdemocrat at yahoo.

AIDS Walk Austinmy Walk Page


[ Parent ]
I bet Jennifer Kim would do it (0.00 / 0)
All we have to do is create enough of a stink (see: public hearing for Futrell's replacement).  Or maybe Will Wynn.  He did it for Mean Eyed Cat and that place had been around less than a decade!

[ Parent ]
thank god for that (0.00 / 0)
my NA tried to kill of Mean Eyed Cat and now they're trying to kill off 3rd base.  Thank god for council (and public) intervention.

[ Parent ]
Interesting (0.00 / 0)
I haven't seen any discussion on the OWANA list itself. Do you have a link?

[ Parent ]
this was at the last general meeting (0.00 / 0)
back in March, the day after the primary.  Third Base is permitted as a restaurant but is marketing itself as a sports bar and is almost surely making more than 50% (I think that's the number) of its revenue on alcohol sales.  Basically, it comes down to the fact that they don't want any "destination" establishments where out-of-neighborhood people go.  Of course, I live right across 6th street from the thing and am highly in favor of more retail/restaurants/etc. nearby.

anyway, last I heard they're asking for an audit of TB's revenue.  I'm sure they want to keep it quiet to avoid a Mean Eyed Cat-style public backlash.


[ Parent ]
Time to publicize it then (0.00 / 0)
I'm always open to guest posts, even with pseudonyms if necessary ;+)

[ Parent ]
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