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Will Texas Pick the President?


by: Glenn Smith

Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 08:46 AM CST


Barack Obama's strong performance on Super Tuesday all but guarantees that Texas primary voters will play a key role, maybe the key role, in selecting the Democratic nominee for president of the United States.

Few saw this coming. Ever since efforts failed to move up the Texas primary, we thought we were sidelined. Then Michigan and Florida broke the rules, taking two big-state delegate counts off the table. Then Obama's captivating campaign of hope interrupted a Clinton coronation.

Until the last few days, most old Texas pols, and new pols for that matter, hadn't given much thought to the possibility of a historic Texas presidential primary. Now, here it comes, and early voting begins in 13 days.

To put this in perspective, Texas voters have never played this role in a Democratic primary. Good luck on your targeting, and good luck exit pollsters. It's a first-of-its-kind election in more ways that one. The universe of likely voters just got much, much larger.

Who will win Texas? Here are some things to think about.

Hispanic voters. Hillary won big among Hispanics in California. I believe this advantage has more to do with voter familiarity with Clinton than any black/brown friction. Exploiting a perceived antipathy between blacks and browns is a losers game for Democrats. No matter what side anyone is on, we need to vigorously contest the narrative of black/brown friction. And we're about to hear a lot about it, fueled by Clinton insiders and Republicans as well,  from national and state pundits.

Women voters. Clinton has been winning the votes of older white women. But when Hillary hit the national stage in the early 90s, Ann Richards was the hero of Texas women. Hillary was never the figurehead here she was in some other places. The Clintons have a few friends in Texas, but they never really played on this field, and consequently don't have the deep leverage they've had elsewhere.

Fairly or not, there's a perception among Democratic opinion leaders that while a Clinton candidacy in 2008 will have minimum down-ballot impact, a  a Clinton presidency will set Dems back. 2010 is a target year for the Texas Democratic comeback. Many fear the 2010 presidential midterm election will not go our way if voters have suffered through two more years of right wing Clinton bashing. I'm noting only the perception, not the reality. The perception will play a role in the March 4 outcome.

I don't think endorsements mean that much, and I really don't think a Houston mayor in machine-less Houston can make much of a difference, but I am curious about what Houston Mayor Bill White will do. White, a Clinton family friend and political appointee of Bill's, wants to run statewide in 2010. He has to be considering the impact of all this on his chances.

Finally, has anyone asked the Secretary of State if Texas can handle the massive turnout increase we are about to see?

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I've ceased commenting on BOR (0.00 / 0)
as I have moved out of Texas.  But, I'm glad to be coming home to get on the ground for Obama.

Could you put together a Demo breakdown and a caucus/primary breakdown, based on last night's numbers?


It is an interesting and exciting time in Texas... (0.00 / 0)
I'm one of those people who never let myself believe we'd be in this position as a state in the Primary.

Texas Democrats will experience a level of attention and focus from the Presidential candidates that I have never experienced before - I've heard various reports of the number of staff from the two campaigns arriving in Texas today.

Beyond that, though, something every down the ballot candidate in the primary is wondering today is:  How will this impact my race?

Consultants for primary candidates have made their careers by whittling down the number of voters they need to contact to the most loyal and regular Dem voters.  When the turn out is expected to double - who are those new voters and how do you reach them in the next month?

This should be fun - we'll be talking about it tonight on The DOT Show...


Where is Obamas organization here in TX? (0.00 / 0)
Ive tried repeatedly to contact the Texans for Obama folks and received no reply.  I have volunteers, we registered 1500 ppl in one day here in San Marcos, a phone bank, a voter file with numbers, all I need now is some lit.  


I'm checking on this (0.00 / 0)
I contacted a couple of people who are working on Obama's campaign in the Houston area.  I'll get back to you as soon as I hear from them with the contact info.  In the meantime, you might want to check the Texans for Obama web site:

http://blog.texansforobama.com/


[ Parent ]
I did contact them. I emailed Ian Davis directly... (0.00 / 0)
no response.  :(

[ Parent ]
Ian gets a ton of email every day (4.00 / 2)
Texans for Obama has been run entirely by volunteers since the end of 2006. We have monthly meetups and nightly phone banks in addition to parties at Scholz Garten and Victory Grill for every event possible - debates, results watch parties, etc. We had over 400 people at Scholz last night and it was a blast! We signed people up for every needed task - phone banking, blockwalking, data entry, housing an Obama staffer, etc.

Please check out http://www.texansforobama.com for daily updates on where our events are and how you can help. You can sign up on the website for email updates (which are now about weekly) if you aren't on the list already.

There was not a paid Obama staffer on the ground here in Texas until 3 days ago when the first one arrived. We are getting a wave of at least 60 paid staffers on the ground here this Friday. We are opening an office here in Austin within the next few days, with regional offices to follow.

Ian spends ALL of his free time organizing for Obama and doesn't get paid to do so. I can tell you from direct experience that there is an overwhelming response of people contacting him who want to get involved and one person can't possibly respond to the amount of emails and calls, though he really tries to do so.

So, anyone who wants to get involved, I urge you to check TexansforObama.com on a daily basis to see where we need you. Tonight we are having a caucus training at Scholz at 7pm if you want to be involved on the precinct level.

I have never seen so much excitement around a candidate and so many folks show up who've never been involved in politics before!

Check out some of the news coverage from last night:

KVUE: http://www.kvue.com/news/top/s...

We hope to see you tonight at the caucus training!

YES WE CAN!


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Volunteer organization for Obama in Austin has been great (0.00 / 0)
This is where the Obama camp has the lead.  They've been building the grassroots infrastructure for over a year.

Great news about the 60 staffers coming into Texas this weekend.


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sorry about that... (0.00 / 0)
but Ian really does get swamped, plus we all have jobs, and some even have spouses or kids! ; )

check http://www.texansforobama.com/...
for an updated list of regional contacts, all across texas.

you can always try volunteer@texansforobama.com as it it aliases to several people.

-my comments at BOR are mine, and do not represent anything official from LFT.


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Sorry Morter Forker (3.00 / 1)
You're not alone.  I've been behind on email ever since our 20,000 rally back in February.  I'm doing my best to stay up to date, but it's impossible.  It's exciting that Obama has inspired so many volunteers, so it's certainly a good problem to have that we can't follow up with this overwhelming demand.

Please remember that I'm just a volunteer with limited time, so naturally I'm looking forward to the paid staff coming to Texas soon.  :)

Thank you for your hard work in San Marcos.  


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A couple of contacts (0.00 / 0)
Here are a couple of places to start.  The first is the student coordinator for the Western region.

Nick Hambley
Western Regional Coordinator
nhambley@studentsforbarackobama.com
831 277 2524

He could also try contacting Jennifer Stanton of Houston for Obama: jstanton@houstonforobama.com


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How do we poll (0.00 / 0)
primary voters in a primary that has had dismal turnout for 20 years?  Who is going to turnout?  

People will come out (0.00 / 0)
Because we have amazing choices this year.  I mean, really, think about it - Obama and Clinton for President and Noriega for U.S. Senate...Even the most cynical and politically disengaged couch potatoes will get off their butts. :) But we still have a lot of work to do nonetheless.  

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I agree sorry (0.00 / 0)
I didn't mean a sarcastic comment.  I mean, how do we poll, because we don't know who will turnout.  We have never seen anything like this.

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The Clintons have plenty of friends in Texas (4.00 / 2)
Bill destroyed Bob Kerrey in the 92 primary and was very competitive in the 92 and 96 general. As far as I know, Hillary is the only candidate who once lived in Texas. She came to Austin to work on the McGovern campaign in 1972. The Clintons are familiar with Texas and have friends in every pocket of the state. Her overwhelmingly lead in endorsements of congressmen and state legislators shows that as well.

It also fair to note that some "Democratic opinion leaders" like Gene Green, Solomon Ortiz and Silvestre Reyes have publicly stated that they think Clinton will do better in their districts than Obama.

The perception you write of is certainly there.  This perception, however, does not seem to have much evidence in polling.

I spoke with someone from the Noriega campaign who was in East Texas last week and was "surprised" at much support Clinton had in the area.

I would not underestimate people's passion for Hillary. She has won every big state so far besides Illinois (including by a far larger margin than expected in California). Its easy to dismiss this as a result of voters' familiarity but it may be time to consider another possibility: people are voting for Clinton because they think she'll be the best president.


Yes, and it will be Obama (0.00 / 0)
As you note, Clinton generally has Hispanic support, but doesn't have deep connections with Hispanic Texas. This isn't California. It's more like New Mexico, where Clinton's Hispanic advantage was modest.  And we do have a substantial African-American population, which will go overwhelmingly for Obama.  Put it together, and the racial politics are a wash.

Which brings us to time, money, momentum and organization, all of which favor Obama.  Obama does very well when he has time to visit (and revisit) a state and drum up enthusiasm. His fundraising has outpaced Clinton's recently, so you'll see more Obama TV ads than Clinton.  The remaining February primaries and caucuses all favor Obama, so he'll probably enter Texas with the wind at his back.  

Above all, Obama is organized here, and Clinton isn't.  Texans for Obama is holding events all over the place, but when I prepared information for my precinct I couldn't even find an in-state contact for the Clinton campaign!

The one big wild card is what the Edwards activists do. They ARE organized, and if they settled around Clinton they could have a big impact.  But I don't think that will happen.  Some will work for Clinton and some will work for Obama, but most will watch from the sidelines.  (I'm not saying they won't vote, just that they won't be blockwalking or working the phone banks for either side.)


No (3.50 / 2)
Hillary's Latino margin was lower in Mew Mexico because it was a caucus state. Also, as far as I know, our demographics are a lot closer to CA than NM.

There has been a paid staffer for Clinton in Texas since last spring. To be sure, Clinton is not focusing on Austin very much, but they are definitely organizing in other parts of the state (and that will increase soon).

Clinton's "modest" Latino margin in NM (she still won 56% i think) was due to its status as a caucus state. Because older people and working class people (basically the core of Clinton's support) are less likely to attend a caucus, a caucus exit poll really doesn't paint an accurate picture.

She won 67% of Latinos in California. Even in Illinois, she won 52%. She won 72% of Latinos in New Jersey.

I really do not see how you can compare NM's caucus to TX's primary. It seems much more logical (and accurate) to compare us to another big state with similar demographics that held a primary.  


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Fundraisers don't count (0.00 / 0)
as paid staffers. Obama has those too - we all know candidates love Texas for its money.

Has Clinton had an organizer here in Texas for the past year? I don't recall any public events by Hillary in the state where you didn't have to pay at least $100 to get in.

But I do live here in Austin, where she's "not focusing", so I could be wrong.


[ Parent ]
Victor Garza (0.00 / 0)
has been a paid staffer for Clinton since last year. He is not a fundraiser. His efforts are the reason Clinton has a huge lead in support among elected officials.

There were several events where you did not have to pay to get in. I attended a great rally last summer in Houston for her. It was free. She had others, too.

One thing that is for sure: candidates DO love Texas for its money.


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Here is Hillary's disbursement report (0.00 / 0)
You will find a Clinton Texas organizer and a Clinton Texas fundraiser on the list.

I did not expect that response to saying she was not focusing on Austin ... all I meant was that with limited resources in the past year it seems like the campaign has chosen to focus on South Texas.

And to correct my previous statement ... she held two campaign events in Houston last March and then a rally in Houston this past summer. All I had heard about was Houston, but there may be more.


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NM was a primary, not a caucus (0.00 / 0)
Of the 135,000 people who voted in the NM primary, about a third were Latino, and only 3% was black.  The demographics of Texas are a lot friendlier to Obama than that.

Are you really suggesting that El Paso and Brownsville have more in common with East LA and parts of Newark than with Las Cruces and parts of Albuquerque?    


[ Parent ]
yes, (0.00 / 0)
Have been in all six places.  El Paso and Brownsville I have lived in. Culturally and politically Hispanics in these areas mirror Hispanics in East LA and Newark more closely than they do those in Albuquerque and Las Cruces.

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According to the NM Democratic Party (0.00 / 0)
they held a caucus. http://www.nmdemocrats.org/

I was suggesting that Texas has much more in common demographically with California than New Mexico. You prove that point yourself by saying 1/3 were Latino and 3% were African-American. Seems like a miscommunication more than anything.

But I will trust nuts101 because of his experience living in each place.


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Mr. Sadun, (0.00 / 0)
What is your source that it was a primary? I am not an expert on NM politics but all the below sources (among many others) have reported it to be a caucus.

http://www.nmdemocrats.org/
http://projects.washingtonpost...
http://www.nmfbihop.com/showDi...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21...
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/...
http://pollingplaces.nytimes.c...


[ Parent ]
Hispanic vote (2.00 / 2)
"I believe this advantage has more to do with voter familiarity with Clinton than any black/brown friction."

This guy must be living on the moon. Just look at the racial friction in the prisons and the high school gang/race problems in CA. The two groups do not mix well.

Watching the returns last night I was channel jumping and saw about 12 different political pundits... 4 of whom were black. I didn't see any Hispanic representation. Hmmmm...  aren't hispanics as big a minority as the blacks? If as a white guy, I can see this obvious bias, you think the hispanics don't see it? They clearly know who their competition to getting ahead is and who has been getting the shaft these past many years. You don't have to be too smart to figure this out.

I've spent many years in Texas and Arizona and New Mexico and I can tell you hispanics are not going to vote in large numbers for Obama. They aren't fools....  


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It goes a lot deper than not being fools (0.00 / 0)
Hispanics in Texas have a long history of voting. They are sophisticated voters. In the small rural towns and in the urban cities. It is a family thing, a generational thing, a cultural thing, a traditional thing, etc.

[ Parent ]
Welcome to the jungle... (0.00 / 0)
I'll take some pride in knowing that I (and Glen Maxey, I believe) both predicted there was a very good chance Texas could play kingmaker back when the legislature was debating moving up the Texas primary.  Now, aren't we glad that didn't happen!!!  We'll get the FULL attention of both campaigns and the national media.  We'll decide the fate of the nation.  The circus is coming to town, for the first time I can ever remember!!!

Make no mistake, both campaigns are already moving in 60 organizers to open their offices here and will quickly staff up to levels we've never seen/imagined.  Polling for this election/targeting IS impossible, because we've never seen this level of importance in a Democratic primary (at least in the recent history).  So, TV and field become the all important mediums to reach voters.  TV is very expensive, but I can't see either side winning without it.  

As far as the built in advantage, I'd have to say Clinton has long roots in the state and also has the hispanic population, but Obama has a large African American community as well as the youth/blogs.  If I HAD to handicap I'd say Clinton has the early edge, but I think we cannot underestimate Obama's ability to win.  I haven't REALLY looked at the SD apportionment, but I'd guess it tends to favor Obama.  

All in all, we should just make sure our seat backs are in the full upright position and our tray tables are safely stowed... cause we're in for one heck of a fun ride!!!


One thing the campaigns (0.00 / 0)
will do, at least Obama's, will be to ask supporters to host volunteers from other states. Most are starving students taking time off from their classes. :) They will also ask supporters to bring meals to the campaign offices to feed the volunteers who will sometimes work 14-16 hours a day.

This is an awesome opportunity for us, indeed, and we're going to have a lot of fun.  


[ Parent ]
primary turnout (0.00 / 0)
Primary turnout in Denton County is lucky to get .5% most times. So do we honestly think that the turnout will be that much greater? It would be nice to see, but I really can't see something like that happening. Though if it does, I feel the pain for the poll workers.

www.stonewalldemocratsofdentoncounty.org





In a word, yes... (0.00 / 0)
Think about the last time your average Joe could even NAME the candidates running in the Democratic primary... let alone cared enough to talk about them with their friends/watch the debate.  Denton County also has UNT, they will turn out for Obama (all University towns I've seen have seen a bump).  

Nobody can accurately project what the number will be on election day.  Nobody.  However, we've seen record turnout nationwide.  Since Texas has never mattered before, our baseline is VERY low. I CAN guarentee we will shatter any and every record.


[ Parent ]
Oh it will happen (0.00 / 0)
The two most highly funded candidates in the history of the world will have their sights set on Texas for the next month. Turnout should see a big increase.

[ Parent ]
Now if we can (0.00 / 0)
just hold their interest till November.

We will have a new Texas.

Logic and an open mind are more useful than common sense.


[ Parent ]
Oh it will happen (3.00 / 1)
The two most highly funded candidates in the history of the world will have their sights set on Texas for the next month. Turnout should see a big increase.

[ Parent ]
The Good News... (0.00 / 0)
With our early vote program, we might be able to avoid having polling places completely overrun/extremely long lines of people waiting to vote.  

[ Parent ]
The precinct caucuses (0.00 / 0)
should be really crazy though

[ Parent ]
Excitement (0.00 / 0)
Im so excited for this primary even though i cant vote in it, but i'll stil be out getting the vote, and i'll vote in the general election. Im lucky that my first texas primary experince is going to actually be of importance to the country.


Dream as if You Live Forever, Live as if You Die Today

LIFE;

Hanging out, making out, sneaking out, passing out, whatever happens, happens,

NO REGRETS

Hook Em Horns  


November Dividends (0.00 / 0)
Regardless of the outcome, a big-time presidential primary here will help generate Democratic energy and, consequently, improved down ballot performance in the fall.

Left-tilting Independents will turn into straight-ticket Democrats.  Inconsistent voting Democrats will move into the certain column.

And that's just one more bit of bad news for our Republican friends.


Big Clinton meeting (3.00 / 1)
in San Antonio today.

Clinton has (3.00 / 2)
very deep and wide connections with Hispanic Texas. Actually was endorsed by the Tejano Dems in Austin about two weeks ago.

with 86% of the vote I might add (3.00 / 1)


[ Parent ]
The circus is coming all right (4.00 / 2)
The Houston Chronicle reports that there will likely be a Clinton/Obama debate on Feb. 28 in Houston.  MSNBC will moderate.  

http://www.chron.com/disp/stor...


Presidential Energy Summit (0.00 / 0)
I can't believe the Houston Chronicle reported that they didn't know how tickets for the event would be distributed. Unless two different debates are being scheduled for Houston that day.

The event in Houston on the 28th is sponsored by big energy and has been in the works for months.  In fact it got rescheduled because of the Super Tuesday primaries.

Houston Presidential Summit
The end of February may arguably be the most crucial time for the presidential candidates and their campaigns. Texas is rich with delegates for both parties and will play a large role in determining the nominee. An energy summit in late February will promote a meaningful dialogue for Texans and the nation to see prior to Texas' March 4, 2008, primaries.

NBC News and its cable news network MSNBC will broadcast portions live. Tim Russert will serve as moderator.

Oh and if you can't afford that $750 full day non-member pricing, well too bad.  Maybe they'll do a lottery for a few cheap priced seats.  No one can make the Greater Houston Partnership be Democratic about the process.


[ Parent ]
I am sure (0.00 / 0)
you are absolutely correct about the GHP and it being "democratic" about anything.  

[ Parent ]
I have to believe (0.00 / 0)
that  this will greatly help local and statewide candidates.
When Rick Noriega came to South Texas he was well recieved but their was no great excitement and he is an awesome candidate.

Great Clinton meeting (3.00 / 3)
in San Antonio tonight. A diverse crowd. State Senator Carlos Uresti announced his support for Hillary as did Bexar County Democratic chairperson Carla Vela. She said, and I quote "I'm out of the closet and I'm supporting Hillary.

What great news! (0.00 / 0)
I had heard about Senator Uresti but did not know about Vela.  

[ Parent ]
Glenn (0.00 / 0)
FYI, Your post is cited on Raw Story.com

http://www.rawstory.com/


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