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An Update on the Craddick D's


by: Phillip Martin

Mon Oct 22, 2007 at 09:00 AM CDT


Whether one supports or opposes the actions of the Craddick D's last session, they chose to establish themselves as a separate group in the Texas Legislature. Calling themselves "Democrats for Reform," they laid out an agenda at the start of session. At the end of session, they claimed their agenda was a success, and that the key successes for Democrats this session were the result of the deals they had struck with Speaker Craddick. They also touted the personal victories they won for their district by supporting Craddick, and many were proud to call themselves "Craddick D's."

It should be noted, though, that only a handful of those who attended the first press conference (announcing the Democrats for Reform, at the start of session) attended the second (after the challenge to Craddick at the end of May). More over, the voracity to which "their agenda" can be called a success was called into question.

With the announcement that Chairman Robert Puente will retire, I thought it would be appropriate to see exactly how those "Democrats for Reform" are doing today. This is merely meant as an update -- trying to keep track of our Democrats in the Texas House. I select them out as a group not out of hostility, but because they chose to set themselves apart from the House Democratic Caucus.

Update: To clarify, I designated whether or not any of the following State Representatives would "still vote for Craddick" based on their last known public position -- which I sourced as best as possible in the middle column. Any additional news that any of the Members or anyone else wish to share, please send me an e-mail or post a comment, and I will update the chart appropriately. 

 
The Craddick D's: Where We Are Today - October 22, 2007
Name Latest Action, Information Still Vote for Craddick?
Bailey, Kevin 
Faces a primary challenger, according to the Texas Observer. Yes 
Chavez, Norma Voted "present, not voting" during Rep. Haggerty's roll call speech; Rep. Chavez was quoted in the Houston Chronicle saying she would support new leadership in 2009. No 
Deshotel, Joe
Voted "against" Craddick during Rep. Haggerty's roll call speech.
No 
Dukes, Dawnna Though there were rumors that some in Austin were looking for a primary challenger, none have surfaced. The last known public statement was that Rep. Dukes stands by Craddick - though I'm not certain she'd vote for Craddick again.
Yes 
Dutton, Harold   
Since his lawyer is Craddick parliamentarian Terry Keel, we'll go out on a limb and say he's still supportive of the Speaker.
Yes 
Flores, Kino From Texas Observer blog: "Former teacher and probation officer Sandra Rodriguez has announced her intent to challenge Kino Flores." Rodriguez is endorsed by Annie’s List. Flores forcefully defended Craddick in this piece from the Edinburg Politics blog.
Yes 
Giddings, Helen   Was one of the handful of Democrats proudly trumpeting the "Democrats for Reform" agenda at the end of session. No other public indication of her stance, and no primary news to date. Yes 
Guillen, Ryan No challenger, no news. Though if the budget committee is still this hard, would he want it? Yes 
King, Tracy    No challenger; King attended the TexBlog PAC event, though.
Maybe 
Lucio III, Eddie   Withdrew support from Craddick at end of session.   No 
McClendon, Ruth Jones On the motion to vacate at end of session, was said to be "flip-flopping." No news, though with Rep. Puente's retirement, she is the only Craddick-supporter in San Antonio.
Maybe 
Pena, Aaron Facing primary challenge re-match against Eddie Saenz. Pena has praised Craddick back home, along with the special goodies that came with Craddick's support. Yes 
Puente, Robert Announced his retirement from the Texas House. Successor won't support Craddick.
N/A 
Rose, Patrick  
Withdrew support from Craddick, lending name for HDCC fundraiser.No 
Turner, Sylvester 
Running for Speaker against Craddick & Rep. Senfronia Thompson; opposes HISD Bond.Maybe
 Of the 15, there are definitely 5 fewer supporters for Craddick, two "maybes" (three, if you include Rep. Turner), three Craddick D's facing primary challenges, and maybe a few more who would no longer call themselves Craddick D's.

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Obligatory Question (0.00 / 0)
How many of these Reps are from "Red" districts? As in not 50/50 or better for us in statewide elections.

1 (0.00 / 0)
Rep. Patrick Rose is the only member on this list whose district could be considered "Red."

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

[ Parent ]
You Sure? (0.00 / 0)
I had heard Pena's was red as well

[ Parent ]
No (0.00 / 0)
I don't think anyone in his district would ever elect a Republican, unless there was a scandal on the Democratic side and the Republican was a well-respected local judge or sheriff or something.

BUT, even if it is, then that's 2 of the 15.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
phillip's correct (0.00 / 0)
The district is conservative, but not Republican.

There have been some shifts in South Texas and the RGV (remember Tony Garza started as a county judge down south), but the voters in most districts have conservative positions on many business and social issues...but are liberal on education, health care and public assistance, and identify with Democrats.

I think a case could be made for Tracy King's district being red but don't have time to look it up right now.


[ Parent ]
Pena's district is among the bluest in Texas (0.00 / 0)
If the rest of Texas voted like Pena's district, we'd have Sen. Radnofsky, Gov. Bell, Lt. Gov. Alvarado (by a landslide), AG Van Os, Comptroller Head, Com'ner of the GLO Hathcox (again, by a landslide), Com'ner Ag. Gilbert (also by a landslide), RR Com'ner Henry (one more landslide).

[ Parent ]
Time to move! (0.00 / 0)
This list is encouraging, but it shows we still have 5 incumbants we absolutely MUST challenge.  The ONLY way we can hold our leaders accountable for their votes (and ensure they vote their district and not their own selfish interest) is by forcing them to defend their votes in an election.  We must give the voters a chance to make an INFORMED decision.  Right now most probably don't even know their Representative supports Craddick and his agenda in the House.  I can say with almost absolute certainty that Cradick polls VERY badly in these districts and a statistically significant portion of the electorate would say supporting Craddick's right wing agenda at the expense of their district would make them much less likely to support their representative in the future.

Disagree (4.00 / 2)
I don't think anyone should be purged because of their vote on the Speaker's race. I'll repeat that, since most people assume otherwise -- a Speaker vote shouldn't be a "test" vote. It can be used in conjunction with other votes, but standing alone it does not hold up.

I don't believe we should primary (to use that word as a very, which is incorrect but seems to be used commonly as a verb) any Democrats. Say I still lived in Austin -- I don't think I have any business going to South Texas and saying, "We need to oust this candidate, etc." That's the business of the people in the South Texas community.

Those candidates who were defeated in the past -- Rep. Capelo, Rep. Edwards, Rep. Wilson, etc. -- weren't defeated because of their loyalties to the Speaker. They were defeated by their constituents because they voted against the interest of their constituents. That distinction makes all the difference:

Craddick tries to replace Republicans who vote for their districts, but against the Speaker. Democrats have lost in primaries for voting against their districts, regardless of their position with the Speaker.

This is why you never see conservative Democrats such as Rep. McReynolds, Rep. Ritter, etc. facing a challenger -- they are voting with their constituents.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
If these Craddick Ds were excellent reps but for supporting Craddick (0.00 / 0)
I'd agree that their vote on that issue alone ought not be the sole reason for purging them, but the fact that these "Democrats" supported Craddick is generally just a symptom of a deeper flaw.

Pena and Rose and Turner, just to pick three who were most outspoken in defense of Craddick, were half-assed reps even if we discount their support for Craddick based on lots of other issues besides supporting the autocratic speaker.


[ Parent ]
check the record (0.00 / 0)
Lots of folks have voted for Craddick...including Rick Noriega.

Folks in Hays County are very happy with Patrick's work and voting record.

And, outside of the craddick vote, Sylvester Turner has one of the most oustanding legislative records of any House member of any party in the last 20 years.

There are a few you could pluck from that list to illustrate your point, but these three don't qualify as "half-assed".


[ Parent ]
Turner, Rose, and Pena all got lousy marks from both (0.00 / 0)
Chris Bell's recent Legislative Score Card ranking the legislators on a number of critical progressive votes and on the Environment Texas Score Card.

I'm not a fan of Turner, Rose, or Pena.  I'll support them in the general election, but not in a primary.


[ Parent ]
I disagree (0.00 / 0)
Turner, Rose and Pena aren't half-assing anything.  Like colin said, there are some Craddick D's that are genuine do-nothings.  Turner, Rose and Pena however work hard at politicking, they spend their time cutting deals and acting wily as if political gain and public credit were the ends, as opposed to the means of delivering change.

Both politics for the sake of politics and ineffectiveness are dangerous, and while I'm not sure which one is worse I can tell you our legislative body and our state as a whole could benefit greatly from eliminating both.


[ Parent ]
Oh, pul-leeze! (1.00 / 1)

Watch the videos of what went down those last couple of days, with the purging of the parliamentarian, Terry Keel with his hand deeply inside the Craddick dummy talling him what to say, and Ron Wilson sipping his liquor and chatting on the phone to his groupie girls on live television.

Anyone who would support that sort of undemocratic power grab simply *has* to be replaced - to do less is downright criminal. They all need tar & feathers and to be dropped off on the other side of the Louisiana border, as well.



[ Parent ]
Why exactly (3.00 / 1)
"must" they all be challenged?

Call me timid,  but I don't think we're really in position to start tossing seasoned incumbents overboard.

While I dislike the idea of Ds voting for Craddick, the bottom line is that the Dems didn't have numbers to elect a speaker, and thus many were willing to cut deals with Rs in order to get something in return. Perhaps it's the fact that we're not used to having to do this, but the Rs have been doing it for decades - it's called dealing with political realities and making the best of a non-ideal situation, whereby one may be able to accomplish a thing or two for one's district.

Frankly I have more respect for someone like Dukes (who I doubt will support Craddick or any R if we re-take the house) - she played it straight - than for other like Paddy Rose who waffled and wriggled and continually stuck his wet finger in the air.

Not all of them deserve such scorn, imo, and the idea that we should expend scarce time and resources on some sort of coordinated, large scale challenge of ensconced Dems right now strikes me a not just premature, but arrogantly wasteful. Hammer away....


See my comment above (3.00 / 1)
I by and large agree -- I wouldn't target anyone for their vote for Speaker. If the member didn't represent his or her constituents, then he or she will have to answer to their district. But it's not my business to figure that out -- that's a contract between the member and the constituents of the community.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

[ Parent ]
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