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Texas Lyceum Poll Has Clinton Tied with McCain and Giuliani


by: R. Kirk McPike

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 02:33 PM CDT


The Texas Lyceum Poll, which earlier this week released a poll on vouchers that seemed to run contradictory to other data in the field, has a new poll detailed in USA Today showing Hillary Clinton tied with Rudy Giuliani and John McCain in Texas.
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The numbers:

Hillary Clinton: 35%
John McCain: 36%

Hillary Clinton: 31%
Rudy Giuliani: 32%

Barack Obama doesn't fair as well in the survey, losing to McCain 25% to 32% and to Giuliani 22% to 32%.

Some thoughts: Obviously, the poll wasn't pushing leaners to break one way or another -- those numbers would be higher for all candidates with encouragement to leaners, and likely the Republicans would be faring better. Second, McCain and Giuliani are both falling in national Republican preference polls. I'd be interested in seeing numbers with Romney or Fred Thompson.

Obviously, any poll this early is of dubious value, but it's an interesting look at Clinton's base. Unfortunately, internal data is not available in the article, so we can't see if Hillary is pulling more support than Obama based on, say, the strength of her female support or what the partisan/issue breakdowns of respondents are.

Perhaps the internals will surface, and hopefully next time Texas Lyceum will include more candidates -- Romney, Thompson and Edwards -- in their questions.

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Internals are available... (0.00 / 0)
I missed the link in the article. I'll update via comments shortly....

From the Internals (3.00 / 1)
Iraq is the driving national issue in the minds of those polled, with immigration coming in a distant second.

Only 19% are against all abortion, even in instances of rape and incest, which might be a bit low for Texas.

36% of respondents would vote today in the Democratic primary, compared to 30% in the Republican primary, which leans a bit Democratic when compared to recent statewide primary turnout. Amongst Democrats, Hillary Clinton led Barack Obama and John Edwards: 33% to 21% to 8%.

Among Republicans, McCain led Giuliani and Thompson: 27% to 23% to 11%.

The margin of error was +/- 3%.


Hillary (0.00 / 0)
I believe the polls.sometimes.I know there are some people who believe it is too early to tell how Hillary will fare in Texas.
Frankly, I believe she is way ahead of Edwards,Obama,Richardson etc.She is playing in a league of herself and by herself.Sort of like the San Antonio Spurs.

garbage in = garbage out; this is the same sample from the voucher poll (0.00 / 0)


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Clinton outspends on pollsters, doesn't she?

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Bad Poll (0.00 / 0)
I talked to several republican Aggies while in town, who usually don't vote - all brought up 08' suprisingly because usually they don't care about politics...reason they care this year? Hillary - they are actually voting in the primaries just to vote against Hillary...they didn't even realize that there is a Republican and Democratic primary, and they don't, they just want to vote against her. 

They were all guys, and yes this is anecdotal, but if 6 guys I know are planning on voting for Obama just to spite Hillary - there have got to be a bunch more like this.


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primary is (0.00 / 0)
still 9 months away. if all 6 of those guys end up voting in the DEMOCRATIC primary just to vote against Hillary i'll be surprised.

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Bad Poll (0.00 / 0)
"I talked to several republican Aggies..."

You know, any story that starts with that phrase is going to be kinda strange.

Anyway, I don't think one can just dismiss this poll as a bad one.  The Texas Lyceum isn't an organization with an incentive to spin pro-Hillary.  That having being said, while I'd love to think Hillary can take Texas in the general election, I suspect that's still fairly unlikely.  But a boy can dream.


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Hillary's (0.00 / 0)
pollster is Mark Penn.

Unless you have evidence she paid for this poll, don't peddle bullshit rumors.


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