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Democratic Fallout from Speaker’s Race?


by: Burnt Orange Report

Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 00:04 AM CST


Races for Speaker of the Texas House ostensibly are a "members only" affair.  Ask a legislator what's happening and you'll get stiff-armed immediately.  You'll get a polite brush off that "It's an internal deal."

However, it's the most important vote that a member ever casts and sets in motion how everything else is going to play out throughout the session and beyond.

And while a Member might claim this is a discussion among 150 legislators, the weapon that's used by the candidates or their team members has everything to do with insinuations about what lobbyists and special interests will be there for them in the next election and whether you'll get a primary opponent in the next cycle.  We're already hearing the Craddick folks and the media talking about which Republican members will draw Leninger/Perry/Lobby fueled opponents if they vote for McCall but Craddick actually pulls it out.

But for the readers of this blog, the real red meat of the Speaker's race politics is what happens to the Democrats who don't stick with the Democratic Caucus on this one.

Thankfully, the Craddick Demo number is fast dwindling, but there seems to be some who'll stick with Craddick to the end.

Most are minority members who are in safe November General election districts.  If they are going to be beat, it would have to be in a primary.  The few Anglo Craddick supporters are in Republican leaning districts who think they're popular enough to win a primary challenge and will, by default, get solid Democratic support in the fall against a Republican.  (Chuck Hopson and Patrick Rose). The other two Anglo Demos on the list are in "minority majority" or high minority impact districts and are even on more precarious ground (Tracy King and Kevin Bailey).

Perhaps the one with the most to lose career-wise is Patrick Rose.  Although he's in a Republican leaning district and has to be moderate in his votes in the District,  you can smell his ambition for statewide office in the future.  To abandon the Democrats on this vote will probably be a fatal blow to his making it through a Democratic Primary for statewide office in the future.  Primaries are notoriously progressive and this kind of back stab of the Party will be remembered.

One source tells BOR that Democratic leaders and activists have already began the discussions for opponents to Robert Puente and Ruth Jones McClendon in San Antonio, Sylvester Turner and Kevin Bailey in Houston, and Norma Chavez in El Paso.

Travis County politicos are burning up the holiday Party political gossip mill. They're all talking about perhaps the most endangered of the Craddick D's: Dawnna Dukes of HD 46 in Austin.  What she gets for toading for Craddick hasn't been figured out.  It's got most Travis County Democrats scratching their heads.  Besides, Dukes has gained a reputation in recent years of being AWOL  from  representing her district.  Representing a Travis County district is almost a full time job, and Dukes is rarely seen or heard from in political circles.  Activists expect the Dems in Travis County's delegation to be not only at the Capitol, but at every neighborhood cookout and PTA meeting, and especially at Democratic events.  Dukes hasn't been seen in a while.  (And don't even bring up the anger from her French vacation that left the Democrats one vote short on a critical public education vote during the special session!)

HD 46 is what has been thought of as the traditional "African American" district in Austin.  However this isn't like the other minority districts in Texas.  African Americans aren't even a majority in the district.  In fact the district is only voting age population of  26.1% African American, 32.6 % Anglo, and 37.9% Hispanic.  The winner in a primary race here depends on progressive/liberal voters more so than the usual ethnic alliances.

Moreover, Dukes hasn't had a serious challenger in several cycles.  Her worst enemy in pure political terms is the swing in voter turnout in the district.  In 2006, the primary vote was only 2311 in the rep race.  In 2004, turnout was 9662.  The difference?  A presidential primary.  (District 46 contains a whole lot of young folks, UT students, and typical Austin slackers who turn out only for the presidential type races.) And you can bet that in 2008 with a heated prez race, the turnout in the campus and liberal precincts will soar.  And that's the problem for Dukes.  None of those "new" voters will have heard of her, and what they'll hear from a challenger will be that she's a Republican sell-out. These energized voters will vote against anything or anyone remotely "establishment" at the Lege. 

And lastly, Dukes has no organization in Austin. Like most incumbents in safe liberal districts, she's not built any campaign apparatus.  She has relied on the liberal political consultants that can influence the outcome of these races before filing day ink is dry.  Rumors on the street are that those movers and shakers are doing the most talking about finding the opponent for her if she flubs this one.  And even if they don't get out front for an opponent, none will want to take on the job of trying to sell that product.  Dukes will be on her own.

And on top of it all for Dukes, a PAC has already been filed called "Too Close To Craddick PAC" whose purpose is to support challengers to Democrats who side with the Speaker.  It's Austin based, and you can bet those behind it are looking locally before going statewide.

So watch the fallout.  For the first time in history, the votes in a Speaker's race may be cast by members only, but those Democrats who piss on their constituents might have a rude and rank awakening in 2008.

That's the Cost of Corruption.

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Democrats on the Craddick list as of Dec 27th.  (Here's hoping that it's dwindling fast!!!)

Kevin Bailey
Norma Chavez
Joe Deshotel
Dawnna Dukes
Harold Dutton, Jr.
Ismael "Kino" Flores
Helen Giddings
Ryan Guillen
Chuck Hopson
Tracy King
Armando Martinez
Ruth Jones McClendon
Aaron Pena
Robert Puente
Richard Raymond
Patrick Rose
Sylvester Turner

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I Disagreee.... (5.00 / 2)
...although I respect your opinion.

In the final analysis, there are more factors to be considered. I've discussed a lot of those at Capitol Annex previously so I won't rehash them.

However, seats like Hopson, Rose are forever lost if those two are defeated in primaries. I don't think it is sound strategy to advocate that votes in the speaker's race should result in these or other Democrats being challenged in the primary.

Rather, such a decision is based on the totality of circumstances including votes, the makeup of the constituants, etc.

I will reiterate, however, that for many of these people, things their constituants desparately need rely on their support of Craddick should he win. Many of these reps know that, more than their carrers would suffer over a speaker vote, their constituants could suffer.

I don't care if you have the legislative prowace of Lyndon Johnson or Sam Rayburn, but if you end up on the wrong side of Craddick and he's in charge, nothing your constituants need will come to pass.

Do I belive Craddick should be re-elected? Hell no.

But this isn't utopia.

For us to be talking about "fall-out" before a vote is cast is premature. For one thing, if the vote is secret (which I doubt), we won't even know who voted how.

Contemplating going after (or encouraging the thought) people like Dukes, Aaron Pena, Hopson, Guillen, Rose, etc., over a pledge alone (which, I believe, they are under no legal obligation to actually honor) is simply premature.

And, it's exactly what Craddick wants. We're playing into his hands right here and now. Remember: the Republicans love to see nothing more than us eating our own puppies in the Primaries.

So, win for Craddick or not, we're giving his party what he wants.

Vince Leibowitz


Rose is safe (0.00 / 0)
You don't know that district. Rose has everything to fear by
SUPPORTING the Craddick. People were pissed that someone didn't run against him in the primary this cycle because of his vote for prop 2. Little old ladies in Hays County were pissed.

Patrick doesn't really represent his district anymore with this conservative crap. His head needs to come out of his ass.


[ Parent ]
Patrick Rose = Henry Cuellar (0.00 / 0)
The analogy between Rose and Cuellar is apt because neither supports the best and most generous instincts of their district's voters, and neither district is one where a better Democrat would not stand a fighting chance against a Republican opponent.

Rose's district isn't as solidly Republican as some suggest (for example, it is not nearly as Republican as the district where Juan Garcia just beat Gene Seaman).

If the true choice was Republican-Lite Rose verse a Dan Patrick-style Republican, I would agree with those who forgive Rose's numerous faults and demonstrable inadequacies because the alternative would be worse.  But I disbelieve that this is the choice we are faced with. 

If Rose does not demonstrate better values and convictions in this term, we must find a better candidate in the primary.


[ Parent ]
You Know.... (0.00 / 0)
I didn't support Cuellar in his primary, but I do believe Cuellar is not as bad as many alternatives down there. That he came out for Ciro was significant redemption in my book.

And, making a comparison of the voting record of Patrick Rose to Cuellar is no comparison: different issues, different bodies. It's apples to oranges. Both are moderately conservative, but different.

Vince Leibowitz


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Finally a voice of reason... (0.00 / 0)
Since I live in Patrick's district I can say that alot of dems down here do support him, especially a lot of dem primary voters, including myself.

[ Parent ]
Why do you support Rose? (0.00 / 0)
Rose was the ONLY Democrat to throw Texas school kids under the bus with his vote for HB 2 which had the purpose of guaranteeing that none of the revenue raised with Perry's property tax shenanigans could be used to help fix the education funding crisis.  Literally, Rose was the ONLY Democrat who got this important vote WRONG (which put him to the right of a handful of Republicans who saw the obvious need to use at least some of these funds to help our at-risk schools).

Rose was one of the few "Democrats" who supported the obscene (and thankfully unsuccessful) amendment to prohibit gay couples from serving as foster parents (because - God knows - those sweet kids are better off in an orphanage than with queer foster parents, heavens forbid!).

Rose was also one of the bigger supporters of that crazy "dirty cheerleading" bill.

TLR is the Karl Rovian Big-Insurance pay-for-play group that authored much of the Republican playbook.  This is the group that - more than any other - boosted Governor Bush from obscurity, and got the mud flinging on the Texans for a Republican Majority PAC scandal, and TLR was once the chief political tool of Ken Lay and remains the chief political tool for Bob Perry, James Lieninger, etc.  TLR LOVES Rose -- he's TLR's #1 FAVORITE Democrat.

In summary, I agree with Rep. Garnet Coleman's comments at the 2003 Texas Young Democrats annual convention when Coleman called for Rose to "stop kissing Craddick's mother-fucking ass."


[ Parent ]
Patrick Rose is political opportunist who will kiss whatever ass (0.00 / 0)
needs kissing to advance his political ambitions.

I'd take a rational, moderate Republican (say, Rose's neighbor Carter Casteel) over a gormless quasi-Democrat like Rose any day. 

Rose is still incredibly young, so I'm willing to hold out hope that he will grow up, but he's running out of time to quit voting like a selfish child.  The speaker vote ought to be Rose's last chance to show he's a bigger and better person than his endlessly disappointing voting record indicates.


[ Parent ]
we need (1.00 / 1)
to find someone to challenge dukes

Unlike Vince... (3.00 / 1)
I don't respect your opinion.  Who the hell is "Burnt Orange Report" on a blog that unceasingly brags about being open-identity in its postings.

And when did BOR or the House Democratic Caucus, who has never taken a vote on which *Republican* it supports for Speaker, become a machine that wields primary opponents against those who don't support its ambiguous aims?

And what's your problem with Dawnna Dukes?  Half of your half-assed post is about her, but you really don't say anything to justify your angst.

Whoever you are can kiss my Democratic-ass.


About Dukes... (2.00 / 1)
I was wondering about Dukes being singled out, too.

I could see, to some degree, haggling over a list of Dems pledged to Craddick and saying, "woe are we, where is our party unity!" or something general like that, but the personal call-outs (especially the trip thing with Dukes) I though went to the extreme.

For one thing, why did we just throw that allegation out for any future Republican opponent of Dukes? It'd make a great RPT mailer and we handed it out on a silver platter. The allegation may have been known prior, but it certainly went public then and there. 

Vince Leibowitz


[ Parent ]
Get over it, David... (0.00 / 0)
Personally I think it's a little heavy handed but it's spot on and you know it.

They aren't claiming to set this up, they are saying what they are hearing. And you're hearing the same whispers, too.

Constituents are angry. Why is it always the people who share that information the ones who get the shit kicked out of them?


[ Parent ]
Dawnna Dukes is not worthy of such a spirited defense (0.00 / 0)
There used to be a guy named Sam Hudson from Dallas in the Lege.  Nice guy, horrible legislator.  Had an awful attendance record, was invisible in his district.  Finally they up and ousted him, replacing him with Jesse Jones.  More of the same from Jesse, and the voters of that district have now spoken. 

In my opinion, HD-46 deserves better.  Dawnna's defenders should look at the reality of her record (closer to what's described in the main post than many would like to admit) and "counsel" her to get her head back in the game. 


[ Parent ]
Oh, Good Gawd... (0.00 / 0)
One more posting.

We need to find a challenger to Dawnna Dukes, why?  Because some of you say she supports a particular Republican over the Republican you support for Speaker?


Republicans are not the issue, Democrats are (0.00 / 0)
The heartburn over Dukes et al has nothing to do with which Republican they support, it has everything to do with ensuring bi-partisanship in the next session.  Our Democratic members sticking together ensures Democrats actually having a voice begining January 9th.

That said, I agree it is too early to call for a primary opponent for anyone.  No votes have been cast and a pledge card can be switched. However, it is not too early to call OUR elected officials and let them know we want a TEAM, not a handful of Democrats going out on their own in an effort to posture for a good committee assignment with the evil Craddick. 

If that happens, they should be held accountable.  And accountable in this instance means the potential for 'them that brung em' to choose a different date the next dance.


[ Parent ]
A Team? (1.00 / 1)
How can we have a team when leading blogs like Burnt Orange say that Democrats should be voting for Republicans for Speaker? 

[ Parent ]
Politics 101 (0.00 / 0)
I suggest you take a political science course on how things work in the real world.  The fact is the R's have 81 votes and we have 69.  The only way any Democratic supported legislation will have a chance of being passed is to have bi-partisan support.  The Speaker and his/her chairs control what gets to the floor and what doesn't.  So your theory of F*^k em 'till we take over isn't practical or helpful.

[ Parent ]
I Was Not Aware That We Won The Election (1.00 / 1)
Given that our state party could hardly even field a slate of statewide candidates last month, I'm not sure what we are griping about when we talk about a lack of control in Austin. Are we going to ask Republicans who should be Speaker when Democrats take back the House? My theory is not F*** them. My understanding is that we lost the election. It's a short term gain to pass a few crumbs of legislation in 2007. The long-term pain is that we will never control the process with this way of thinking. Thank you.

[ Parent ]
Do you not understand the process or are you just playing dumb? (2.50 / 2)
All members from both parties vote.  The field of speaker candidates is narrowed in successive votes until one candidate gets a majority.  We could run a candidate in the first ballot (Senfronia Thompson was set to run), but we wouldn't ever achieve a majority in any successive votes.  In light of this, Rep. Thompson has released the committments of those who would have voted for her and she has pledged to support Rep. McCall, who is a Republican, but one with a history of open-mindedness and bipartisanship (as contrasted with Craddick who is reactionary and corrupt as well as a deeply partisan and spiteful scofflaw - kind of a tin horn Tom DeLay but less charming).

What would you propose?  That Democratic representatives abstain from later votes when the race is between two Republicans?


[ Parent ]
My Point Is Clear Enough And It Is Bedtime (0.00 / 0)
Don't you imagine Republicans will have worked it out by the time the vote comes?

You're all good people but it's kind of like Palto's cave down here in Texas. You're told that you can do something other than lose and you get mad at that idea.

I wish someone would address my question of will we be sharing power with Republicans when we take back the House?

Thank you.


[ Parent ]
Plato's Cave. Not Palto's Cave (0.00 / 0)
See--I'm sleepy. Worn out by all the defeatist talk of which Republican is best.

[ Parent ]
you can (0.00 / 0)
debate which Republican is best but its clear which Republican is worst for Texas: Tom Craddick.

Democrats who support him will pay a price.


[ Parent ]
Your question is wrong-headed. The vote for speaker does not involve (0.00 / 0)
"sharing power" between Republicans and Democrats.  It involves a vote by the entire house including members of both parties.

One candidate stands for an extreme agenda based on corruption and fueled by pay-for-play money. Perhaps you think this adenda is synonymous with the Republican agenda, but we are in the process of burying a Republican ex-President who would disagree. I see the Craddick agenda of corruption and looting the spoils of extreme partisanship for individual gain as more akin to piracy than ideology.  Believe it or not, many Republicans also feel this way.

Another candidate has a history of consensus building that extends beyond party lines.  Many people see that as a better model, including many Republicans.

A third candidate is viewed by many as a stalking horse.

The are all Republicans - take your pick.

When the Democrats are in power, either they will consolidate behind one candidate and the Republican vote will be immaterial to the selection of the speaker or, perhaps, the Democrats will offer a candidate so corrupt and extreme that even his or her own party cannot unite behind him.  In that second scenario, the minority Republican vote might swing the selection process one way or the other.  Neither scenario is properly characterized as "sharing power"; it's just a vote - take your pick.


[ Parent ]
Aaargh! (0.00 / 0)
Deejay and company: please lets not feed the one-note wonder troll.  It is clear by his view, that there is no need for any Democratic State house member to show up for work at all ... because if the other party has a one-vote majority, they should rule with an iron fist to the exclusion of the other party ... so why bother, right?

This bizarre view has been articulated repeatedly so lets not have it repeated again.

Oh yeah ... Thank you.

"Put the jam on the lower shelf where the little fellow can reach it." Sen. Ralph Yarborough


[ Parent ]
Hmmm.... (0.00 / 0)
If D's couldn't vote for an R for Speaker, then for whom would they vote?  There's nobody left!

[ Parent ]
Sigh... (3.00 / 1)
Constituents are angry?  Wait a second, wait a second; didn’t BOR just say Rep. Dukes' constituents are typical Austin slackers?  That doesn’t sound like a very plugged-in voter base to me at all... in fact, it seems like the only folks with their panties in a wad are the bloggers.  (And where do you live?)  Oh, and please – anyone – please explain to me how it makes sense to threaten Rep. Dukes with the very same heavy-handed threats and tactics (recruiting primary opponents) that the Speaker employs and Democrats supposedly hate. 

Let us also not forget that legislators should vote for their districts’ sake – not their party’s sake – and sometimes that includes having committee assignments in mind when supporting a Speaker.  Here’s to hoping for a Speaker that encourages that kind of district-friendly voting behavior.


Travis County... (0.00 / 0)
and I have lots of friends in Dawnna's district (I live in Howard's). You and David need to look at it this way: Bloggers, for the most part, haven't said a thing about Dukes. Check my site and search the archives here. NONE OF US ARE TRYING TO START ANYTHING. We're just telling you what's going on here on the ground.

If anything, we've kept it somewhat quiet. Sorry if you don't like hearing what primary voters are talking about.


[ Parent ]
McT... (0.00 / 0)
I go to meeting after meeting and event after event both political and non-political in Austin and I simply have heard no one saying the things you say are only being reported on here.

[ Parent ]
You haven't made all of them... (0.00 / 0)
We don't always go to the same things and we don't necessarily talk to the same people, doll.:)

Or, you just may not have heard it. But it's out there and has been for a while.



[ Parent ]
More confusion. (0.00 / 0)
I really do not understand how you can say that bloggers aren't talking about Dawnna Dukes when  here. we. are. blogging. about. Dawnna. Dukes.

*ahem*


[ Parent ]
Ahem... how many posts does this make this year about Dawnna? 1? <eom> (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
Yup (0.00 / 0)
Here's proof of that.

http://www.burntoran...

That's the URL for the tag for all stories about Dukes. You'll notice there is only 1. This one.

Please read the Community Guidelines and How to Rate Comments.


[ Parent ]
Wow (0.00 / 0)
"It's a short term gain to pass a few crumbs of legislation in 2007."

I'm putting that one on the wall, and pulling it back out at the end of session.



Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


You Can Do That-- (1.00 / 2)
But will someone please respond to my question of will we sharing power with Republicans when Democrats take over the House. And will it be okay for a some Democrats to cut a deal with Republicans to elect a Speaker when Democrats hold the House.

And listen--We don't need a multi-part review of BOR's greatest hits of 2006 like you've started up. We get the idea already that you folks are the voice of God for Texas Democratic blogs.

Thank you.


[ Parent ]
who are you (0.00 / 0)
For one, BOR will do whatever it damn well pleases as it always has. voice of God? please.

Two, a short history lesson may inform you that the Texas House has a longer history of bipartisanship and abrasive misuse of power like the last sessions have seen. There is no reason that both sides cannot work together as they have in the past and they will in the future. The margins for Republicans or Democrats will never be like that of Idaho or Massachusetts. Republicans use to cross over to vote for Laney and Democrats will cross over for McCall. Hell, it will be Democrats that elect McCall. Some sense of normalcy must be restored. The first step is to remove Craddick.

Please read the Community Guidelines and How to Rate Comments.


[ Parent ]
I"m Quite Aware Of The Bipartisanship That Helped Make Governor Bush Look Credible (0.00 / 0)
And then we have the so-called bipartisanship that has made this state damn near 50th in all sorts of measures of quality of life.

So this here is a great tradition you are defending.

Say, does this wonderful tradition go back to Jim Crow days?


[ Parent ]
The thing is (0.00 / 0)
We don't have time to give you an extended history lesson. If you have differing views and differing arguments, fine, whatever. But don't be so damn unruly if someone argues with you.

Also, the "voice of God?" What the hell? Why take a pot-shot like that? Gimme a break, man.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
I'm Sorry To Have spoken In Anger (0.00 / 0)
It is always a mistake to do so.

[ Parent ]
And asking " Who Are You" (0.00 / 0)
And telling us you will do what you damn well please sure is a Tom DeLay way to proceed.

Hell, you could I be in comparsion to you?


[ Parent ]
You really are a jackass... (0.00 / 0)
I've read your blog and I've seen your comments here. You have a uniquely poor understanding of history and little tolerance for those who disagree with you.

YES, when Democrats regain control of the Lege,  there will still be Republicans in positions of power. They won't be the conservatives that have managed to make this state, as you've noted, close to 50th in a lot of categories in which you'd like to be 1st. But there will be Republicans we'll have to work with.

The children have to play nicely. The great thing about being the majority is that you get to pick the kids you work with on the other side. Because of the split in the Republican caucus, we get that opportunity even while in the minority.

The sooner you get over your 'all or nothing' thinking, the better you'll come across to others. Right now, you sound like a moron. 


[ Parent ]
Political Parties Should Offer People A Choice (0.00 / 0)
In my time here the Democratic party has failed to offer that choice time and time again. Last month they could hardly field a slate of statewide candidates. Now the House delegation does not even have a candidate for Speaker. What history am I missing here?
I don't wish us to be 1st like McBlogger says. (Though I'm not sure why a loyal Texan like McBlogger is so dismissive of the idea.) Where did I say I'm looking to be first? I'd like it to be better. One gets the impression that people here don't feel it can be better.

McBlogger has his internet courage and he can call me a jackass and misrepresent my blog. God Bless Him. I'd say in reply that I read his post on computers in schools last night and that after reading it I plan to call Ellen Cohen, my state rep, and ask her about her plans in this legislature for education. I left a post on his blog last night saying just that.

My intent to call Ms. Cohen, a Democrat, suggests my understanding of the ability of members to work across the aisle. That is a far cry from the failure of Democrats to promote a candidate for Speaker or having Democrats vote for a Republican for Speaker.

As for Burnt Orange, which seems to wish to have it both ways as both a blogger and a member of the establishment, maybe what would of more meaning that reporting every little detail of the Speaker's race would be detailing a legislative agenda for a Democratic minority empowered by this so-called bipartisanship with Republicans. This would be closer to the spirit of McBlogger's post on schools. 

I believe in a cohesive governing party elected by the people and putting forth a program. Such a a party can have both a right and left wing. It can have a middle. This is just what we are hoping from our newly elected Democrats in Washington.

Why don't we see this as part of the future of our Democratic Party in Texas? Why are giving up the potential to govern Texas in accordance with a future Democratic majority in exchange for the likely slim-pickings of the session ahead?

Thank you. 


[ Parent ]
Neil (0.00 / 0)
You should stop telling us what we should or shouldn't do. If you don't like the blog, don't read it. Of course, then you couldn't promote yourself, so...

We're a community of different voices for different opinions. The fact that we're both bloggers and "insiders" is what makes the site unique.

Right now, we're writing on the Speaker's race. In time, we'll write about policies and agendaas -- though, since you don't think any policies should matter, I don't know why you'd care.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
What In The World Am I Self-Promoting? (0.00 / 0)
You click my name and it does not go back to my blog. I am not mentioning my blog at all. I respond to you, after you twist my words, and you say I'm doing bad stuff. If I'm doing bad stuff than please stop responding. I asked you to stop attacking and you still attack. I called my last comment to you "round and round" suggesting I was reaching my limit instead of wishing to go on. I'll tell you what--why don't we see how it goes and take it up at some other point if you wish. I'm sure you are an okay guy. Have a good night. Thank you

 


[ Parent ]
Reading more carefully would help... (0.00 / 0)
I do want want Texas to be first in literacy, first in the highest test scores, etc. I can tell you we aren't there in large party because of the policies of hardline R's who've made such a mess of things. By getting involved in this race, Democrats and moderate Republicans (who represent the majority in this state) have the ability to cut these disastrous people out of the legislative process, or at least minimize their impact.

I get where you are coming from... why cooperate with them at all? Because it's childish to do otherwise. That's the QAD.  It's also short sighted. As I wrote above, Democrats have a chance to actually, working with Republicans, pass some legislation that can help people in this state. Positive work like that always helps elect a majority. It could also end up helping to turn some of those R's to D's.

Come have drinks with me in Austin. I call everyone a jackass. It's not internet courage, it's just my personality.

I will say this about your comment regarding the statewide candidates... for whom did you volunteer in the primary or the general? It's easy to criticize when you don't see what's going on in a campaign or know under what restrictions they are operating.


[ Parent ]
I Donated About $200 In 2006 (0.00 / 0)
Split about half and half between Texas candidates and Wellstone Action. Your point is well-taken on volunteering. I did none. Please contact me if you come to Houston. I will buy you a copy of Tip O'Neill by John Farrell. Tip was a great partisan and a great man. 

[ Parent ]
And yet, Tip never could be elected Speaker in Texas... (0.00 / 0)
...cause he was TOO partisan to the left.  But I digress.

Unfortunately, Texas is not a "normal" state when it comes to politics.  Hell, the obvious solution (and a bipartisan measure that would get near 100% approval by the voters) would be a constitutional amendment that has the legislature meeting for two months every five years, rather than five months every two.  Real-world politics means you have to work with those you can't stand.  A good politician knows how to do this without pissing off his/her base; a bad one finds himself/herself ousted in a primary.

That's the reason why LBJ and Sam Rayburn were two of the greatest Texas politicians ever - they knew how to cross the aisle when necessary and not piss off the folks back home.

Neil, you mention why the D's don't run a candidate.  They are: Senfronia Thompson.  If all the D's vote for the D candidate, Craddick is Speaker.  Texas is screwed for two more years.  If even half the D's vote for McCall, Craddick might still have enough to pull off a squeaker, but his power in Austin will have diminished.  He will have been shown to be vulnerable.  If all the D's vote for McCall, McCall is speaker.  Texas is saved; Dems will have a say in the government.

As it is now, the only part of Texas government that D's have any say in is the state Senate... And only by one vote.  They can't do anything but filibuster bills from coming to a final vote, but it's all they have in the whole state.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a Speaker that lets them come to the table?


[ Parent ]
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