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State Chair Vote Analysis


by: R. Kirk McPike

Sun Jun 11, 2006 at 00:40 AM CDT


A late upsurge in votes for Charlie Urbina-Jones, particularly in Senate District 19, pushed the race for Texas Democratic Party State Chair into a run-off election between Boyd Richie and Glen Maxey. For voting maps, a run down on how the vote shifted in round two, and a link to an Excel spreadsheet detailing all of the votes in both rounds, continue reading.
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A Note on Voting

Voting in the Texas Democratic Party State Convention is fairly complicated. Every county, under state law, is entitled to have their full strength voted, regardless of the number of delegates present. Votes are returned to the chair by Senate District presumably because this is a more efficient means of organizing the vote into discrete chunks (31 instead of 254). In each Senate District, delegates caucus by county, and vote within their county group. Each county within each Senate District is alloted a certain share of that District's votes, and they divide those votes up by the vote in their on-the-floor county caucus. Any counties not present on the floor have their votes divvied up to match the breakdown of votes reflected by the counties that are present. Votes are then cumulatively reported by each District, taken down to the second decimal place.

So it's easy to vote in, say, Senate District 23, where all 325 votes are representing voters from Dallas County, but there's a lot of math to do if you're district 28, with 210 votes spread out across something like 30 counties.

Ballot One

In the first round of voting, Boyd Richie won 16 of the 31 Senate Districts of Texas, gathering just shy of 3,025 votes -- only 186 votes away from an outright win -- which was roughly 47.1% of the total vote. In the Senate Districts won by Richie, he averaged 64% of the vote. Richie won in the Northeast and East of the state, down in the South, and in District 31, which runs along the western and northern parts of the Texas Panhandle. Taken cumulatively, he won both the Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston regions. He won outright majorities in 14 Senate Districts. Percentage-wise, Richie's strongest District was SD1. He took his largest pool of votes from my home Senate District, SD23. His most narrow win was in Senate District 9, where he took 49% of the vote against Maxey's 43 percent.

Glen Maxey captured El Paso, much of the coast, portions of the DFW and Houston metro areas and the bulk of central Texas. He gathered 38.1% of the vote -- 2,442.18 votes (768 shy of victory) -- and won 13 Senate Districts with an average of 54% of the vote. He won an outright majority in nine Senate Districts, and barely edged out Richie in the close race in Senate District 29, where Maxey took 38%, Richie 33% and Charlie Urbina-Jones 24% of the vote. In terms of both number of votes and percentage of votes, Maxey's strongest district was, not surprisingly, the Travis County-based District 14.

Charlie Urbina-Jones's vote varied wildly, from zero percent in Senate District 1 to 81% in Senate District 19. He won two districtst, 19 and 26, both with majorities (67% average between the two districts). All told, Urbina-Jones won 847.33 votes, or 13.2% of the overall vote.

Lakeisha (??) Rogers did about twice as well as I expected her to do, winning 98 votes, which was 1.5% of the vote. Her strongest district was District 13, where she took just over 6% of the vote. This is a Houston-area district, which reaffirms my concerns about the quality of Houston's water supply.

A statewide map of the first round results:

Boyd Richie Districts are in blue, Glen Maxey Districts are in Purple and Charlie Urbina-Jones Districts are in green. For once a political map of Texas with no red on it!

On this map, the Dallas-Ft. Worth and Houston metro areas are condensed into solid blocks, and colored based on their cumulative vote due to the comparatively small size of the districts. Here is a map of the Dallas-Ft. Worth Districts:

And the Houston-area Districts:

At the end of voting, Richie led Maxey by 581.71 votes, but was 185.77 votes short of a majority.

Shortly after the first vote concluded, the chair of the convention, Bob Slagle, called for a second vote between just Richie and Maxey. As those votes were taking place, Charlie Urbina-Jones and Keisha Rogers released their delegates, both imploring their supporters to "do what they think is right." Though much of the crowd was chanting "Maxey-Jones," Urbina-Jones did not endorse Maxey in his concession.

Ballot Two

The second ballot hinged on how the released delegates would vote. In order to win, Boyd Richie needed to capture just under 200 of the released delegates (about 20% of the combined Jones-Rogers vote), while Glen Maxey faced the harder challenge of taking virtually all of these delegates. In the end, Maxey won over 150 more of these up-for-grab votes than Richie did, but not enough to prevent his rival from achieving victory.

On the second ballot, Boyd Richie won the same sixteen Senate Districts he had captured during the first ballot, with an average of 68% of the vote in these districts. As votes shifted from the two eliminated candidates, Richie generally gained a bit of ground in every District. In terms of percentage of vote, he dipped down in Senate District 1 and Senate District 23 by 1 percent, and dropped markedly in Senate District 21, where he won 35 fewer votes (-12%) than he had in the first round of voting. I'm not sure what happened in District 21, but there was audible surprise from the crowd at that vote. Richie's vote totals went up markedly in Senate District 19, where he took over half of Urbina-Jones's former supporters (but not enough to win the District) and in Senate District 27, where the entire delegation voted for Richie on Ballot Two (I believe his family is from this District, it was hard to hear in the convention). Richie's largest pool of votes again came from Senate District 23. All told, Richie's vote shot up by 391.54 votes on Ballot Two, pushing him well over the top, with 3,415.43 votes or 53.2% of the vote.

Glen Maxey markedly closed the gap in the second ballot, winning majorities in both of the Districts that had supported Urbina-Jones on the first ballot, but not capturing Jones's delegates by a large enough percentage to win the election. Maxey won 15 Senate Districts with an average of 63% of the vote. He gained large shares of the vote from former Jones voters in Districts 13, 19, 21, 22, 25, 26 and 29. Like Richie, he generally gained a handful of percentage points in other areas, and dropped down by a a couple of points in Districts 3, 15, 22 and 27. Maxey's best District in terms of percentage won was SD 26, where he picked up 90 votes more than he had captured on the first ballot. His largest delegation vote was again from Senate District 14. Maxey took 544.27 more votes and cut Richie's lead by just over 150 votes in the second ballot, and ended up with 2,986.45 votes (46.5%).

In terms of the map, the only change was that the two Urbina-Jones Districts went for Maxey:

Surprises

A few things stand out to me in breaking down the numbers. First, the districts that went for Maxey routinely went his way with less intensity than the districts that were won by Boyd Richie. This is the opposite of what I had expected. On the second ballot, there were a handful of districts won by Maxey by just the smallest of margins -- 3.92 votes in District 11, 0.26 votes in District 12. Maxey's supporters were very vocal and very dedicated, but they were also very pocketed, and that led to narrower victories than were necessary for him to win. Cumulatively, he also failed to win either the DFW or Houston metro areas, which would have been essential to any majority Maxey's campaign would have hoped to construct. It's important to note that aside from East and South Texas, Maxey won Districts throughout the state, as did Richie -- both candidates had broad bases of support, and this vote could have gone either way.

I also found it surprising that more of Charlie Urbina-Jones's voters didn't swing to Maxey in the second vote. Let's presume for the moment that all of Roger's votes went to Boyd on the second ballot (unlikely, but it makes the math easier). If that were the case, then Maxey won 66% of Jones's voters, despite their joint campaign events and the the loud cheers of "Maxey-Jones" between the two ballots.

There's a lot more that you could do to analyze the election, but that's my overall review. If you'd like to take a more in-depth look at the data, you can download my Excel spreadsheet of the vote (tabulated as the votes were called on the floor) by clicking here.



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I must admit.. (3.67 / 3)
...that is one fantastic analysis. Interesting the way everything panned out.

its the same old shit (0.00 / 0)
hopefully the party will eventually wake up and realize that more of the same = a Republican Texas.

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No, it's not the same old shit (3.67 / 6)
What needs to be considered is that for the first time in 25 years, we didn't just endorse the chair that was handed to us.  We had a real fight on the floor.  That was healthy and a very positive thing.  It reminded me of the national conventions of old where a dark horse really could emerge.

This contest, along with the new SDEC members like myself who will be holding Boyd Richie to his promnises to various factions like the PPC, will promote change and invigorate the party.

It was a true fight as in the old days with all the contestants coming out in the end together for the good of the party.  I was sorry to see Glen lose but no more gracious losers than all three, Maxey, Jones and Rogers could be found anywhere. 

In the end, we are Democrats, first last and always.

Madeleine
The Texas Maddog Grandma on a rampage against the Extreme Right Neocons.

The Texas Maddog Grandma on a rampage against the Extreme Right NeoCons from the White House down to the local school board


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madeline... (3.00 / 2)
congratulations on your election to SDEC. i sincerely hope that you will hold richie's feet to the fire, so to speak.  my impression of last night was that texas democrats are hungry for change.  the status quo won, but BARELY.  we made a strong showing and a message was sent loud and clear that we are sick and tired of the same old same old.

what we have to do is learn from this experience and come into the next convention better prepared and UNITED.  we will get 'em next time.

Fudd's first law of opposition: Push something hard enough and it will fall over.


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I think its worth it to say (0.00 / 0)
that maybe next time we could head into the convention united as a party, rather than into solid factions. I think that would be ideal.

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The Texas Blue - Advancing Progressive Ideas


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Congratulations Madeleine! (0.00 / 0)
I'm so proud of you.  You are right about a shift in the SDEC membership.  There are several new members that will be working harder for party change from within.

Good luck to you and I know you'll do the right thing by us.


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Dumb question (0.00 / 0)
how do the fractions work?

Are there 225 in SD 1, for example, regardless of how many delegates there are?


Yes. (0.00 / 0)
If only one delegate were to show up from District 1, she would get to cast all 225 votes. If only one delegate shows up from any county within a multi-county district, he gets to cast all the votes for that county. By law, the number of delegates does not determine the strength of the vote, a different formula is used for that.

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one thing (0.00 / 0)
i was surprised by was how many supporters  Boyd Richie had in SD14. I realize that at least two BOR writers were among those but after everything Glen has done to turn Travis County blue, the relationships he has and the reputation as the best organizer in the state, I was surprised that about one out of every four SD14 delegates thought there was a better choice than Glen Maxey. Austin Democrats owe a lot to Glen and too many of them seemed to have been victims of an old Republican trip: playing upon people's fears.

Of course, this fall Glen will still be helping Travis County turn 100% blue and many of us will be wishing he had an opportunity to try to turn the state blue.


Travis has always been blue (0.00 / 0)
Travis has never "turned blue" since it has never been red. 

They've been calling it the "Peoples Republic of Travis County" since 1972.


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Right... (0.00 / 0)
That's why half of our house districts were red and we are about to take back the third after getting rid of Jack Stick with Mark Strama and ultimately Todd Baxter via Ben Bentzin with Donna Howard.

Pre-2004:
Eddie Rodriguez (D)
Elliot Naishtat (D)
Dawnna Dukes (D)
Terry Keel (R)
Todd Baxter (R)
Jack Stick (R)

Have you ever been to Pflugerville? We also had to take back courthouse seats and commissioner seats, jp seats, and constable seats. So yeah, say what you will...but um, the results are in the elections and which incumbents were defeated. Sigh.


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Oh Puhleeeeezzzeeeee Karl! (1.00 / 2)
That's only because Ralph Nader took 11% of the vote Karl - otherwise the "liberals" took 52%.  Don't even try it.

I just never realized until now how tough it was being a Democrat in Travis County! You poor, poor babies.


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lights out (0.00 / 0)
Snooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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Fantastic analysis, superb maps (5.00 / 1)
The dramatic finish to the state convention was one of the reasons it was so well attended. Great job breaking it down!

A Couple of thoughts (0.00 / 0)
Firstly, maybe you can enlighten us on this, but I believe that Glen Maxey won a majority of votes on the second ballot from Delegates who were actually, present, and only lost the race because of the apportionment system (maybe we should change the system...)

Also, it seems fairly clear that there was some kind of behind the scenes deal cut that gave 100% of the vote to Ritchie in the second ballot in SD 27. Deals of this nature were expected to occur.


State Law (0.00 / 0)
By state law, every county must be allowed to vote its full delegation strength.

[ Parent ]
Yes... (0.00 / 0)
I'm aware of that, I was wondering if you had actual delegate vote totals (pre-apportionment).

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i.e. (0.00 / 0)
How many acutal delegates there were voting in each vote.

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No, I Don't (0.00 / 0)
I know the raw vote in my SD, of course, but not in all the others. There may well have been more individuals there for Maxey, but if so, it wasn't by a huge margin, judging by stickers and sign-waving. And a very large percentage of Maxey voters were all in SD-14.

It would be interesting to see those numbers, however.


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i had been told (0.00 / 0)
by someone that, in raw votes, Maxey was 2 to 1 over Richie.

But hey, Boyd and his gang sure now how to  get elected to party office. I just hope they know how to win the races against the  real bad guys


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This is B.S. (0.00 / 0)
I was on the floor and the only people I saw running around and asking people who were either leaving or obstaining if they could vote their proxy were Glen's people.
If there were any "tactics" going on with regard to grabbing the votes of absentee delegates it was Glen's. At least down on the floor that was the case.
And I have not by the way supported either candidate strongly before here or anywear else before the convention. I respect the qualifications of both of the primary candidates, but I saw a lot of things at the convention that bothered me with regard to manuvering and it all came out of Maxey's campagin. Any one who was there and was working for Maxey know's what I am talking about. And as for falling for scare tactics, what the hell do you call calling Boyd supporters homophobes? Which happened to me. Having a kid pasted in Maxey stickers call me, ME, of all people, a dino homophobe when I refused his offer of a sticker pretty much sealed the deal for me. I suspect I'm not alone.

Prisoner of hope.

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Goes both ways (3.00 / 4)
It sucks what that kid said to you, but it is really a two way street. Like when I got into the elevator and three older women got in and were talking about Madeleine Dewar's speech in the PPC (whole other can of worms--I found it incredibly amusing that when the real membership of the PPC wanted a rollcall vote, John Behrman wouldnt do it, and then the next topic he wanted to push past through to was verified voting...anyone else see the irony? Anyway...) anyway these women said something very b itterly about how "when she said the thing about youth needing to be involved, well that was it, because youth dont know anything..."

I know not all Richie supporters in the end are old and out of touch. There were a lot of people that I know who were working with him and who are totally legit people (duh). So keep that in mind.

I said before this thing that the best thing to come out of it would be that whoever won would have to be responsible to their detractors. And for Maxey to get roughly what, 47%, clearly shows that there needs to be some serious reform. If we have to come back and run again in 2008 if the Party doesnt live up to what they said they would (the first line out of Boyd's mouth every speech was that he was a "grassroots Democrat") well, we'll be back. For now, we work to elect Dems across the state.

I wish there was a different result, and I still feel of course that Maxey was the better candidate. But, he didn't win, and that's that. The fact we had the discussion is a major victory in itself.


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by the way (0.00 / 0)
I wanted to let that woman know that the woman she was talking smack about in the elevator just got elected to the SDEC, and to ask what she had done. So it goes both ways.

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47% is unimpressive (1.00 / 5)
We Democrats in Harris County have been losing with 45-47% for a dozen years now.  How is that impressive?

Only a pathological loser thinks that "losing well" serves as consolation.  There is winning and there is everything else, and in politics, there is no "everything else".  When you Delusional Democrats learn this, maybe we will have a chance to win again.

That's why Boyd Richie won.  The issue is not whether people would leave the party if he lost the election, the issue is, how many people have ALREADY LEFT THE PARTY because of the fuzzy-headed shenanigans of Maxey and his ilk?  Whether Richie can do anything to staunch the flow will be seen in November.


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fuzzy-headed what?! (0.00 / 0)
There's nothing fuzzy headed whatsoever about our excellent intentions, which were to export the well-organized SYSTEM and infrastructure we have in Travis  county and start building similar structures all over the state. We like to win, and unfortunately it seems like the old guard at the state party has forgotten how.

[ Parent ]
You may be too fuzzy-headed to understand fuzzy-headedness (0.00 / 0)
Here is how I typify fuzzy-headed Delusional Democratic thinking:  you think everyone but you is an idiot, but if we were all well enough educated, we would be smart enough to see things exactly as you do.  Do not deny it:  time and time again I have read BOR bloggers writing about how stupid all other Texas voters are.  When I was a political organizer in Austin it was common to hear progressive organizers refer to "the sheep".

The result of such arrogance is that you think that it is only a technical matter to get your message out better, to more people, more often, and people would suddenly start seeing the light and voting your way. 

You are SO wrong.  As one of the party's chief technologists until pretty recently, I can say without a doubt that it does not, now or ever, work that way.  Most Texans do not agree with us, and that is that.  You can live with it or not, but the only way to not live with it is to leave the state, if you find it worth paying state and local income tax to find more like-minded people.

What I have learned is that most political misery is in the mind:  remove your mental barriers and you can live you life without worrying so much about political absurdities.  Your happiness or unhappiness about political affairs is something you control completely, without requiring any change in electoral outcome.  But you can not remove the barriers as long as you are stuck on the idea that a party label matters, or that yours is somehow superior.  No amount of preservatives makes rotting fruit taste better.


[ Parent ]
Why do anything? (0.00 / 0)
The only way I can see any sense in your arguments at all is if you believe that no structural improvements or infrastructure can be built for the TDP at all. If that's the case, why even run?

[ Parent ]
Actually (0.00 / 0)
47% for a reform minded candidate in a state like Texas is pretty good.

"Maxey and his ilk." Ok "wanderer".


[ Parent ]
You just insist on emphasizing my point for me (1.00 / 3)
Losers lose.  Major losers brag about it.

[ Parent ]
The Fight Is Over (5.00 / 2)
Can we please stop attacking the other candidates and their supporters? We have a party chair, and we have a job to do, and none of this bullshit is going to help us do it.

[ Parent ]
today (3.00 / 1)
i can admit that you are exactly right. yesterday, a few hours removed from the vote, i admittedly was not quite ready to move on.

i look forward to working with the TDP and  Boyd Richie supporters torwards victory in November.

Whatever harsh words were said at the convention or on this blog by the supporters of all candidates (including myself), lets try to move on.


[ Parent ]
how has maxey and his group caused people to leave the party? (0.00 / 0)
without the efforts of the Travis county democratic crowd we would have not gained any seats in the house in 04.

[ Parent ]
Tell that to Hubert Vo. (0.00 / 0)


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we have picked (5.00 / 1)
up 2 house seats in Travis County since 2004.

In 2004 we only had a net gain of 1. If Strama would have lost it would have been a wash.

Tell that to Hubert Vo.


[ Parent ]
One big thing I noticed about Boyd supporters... (0.00 / 0)
was the fact they didnt want to talk to you at all if you were supporting either maxey or jones.  At times I honestly felt the boyd supporters looked down on both the maxey and jones supporters.  Especially since we tended to be a bit more younger and energetic.  I really felt alot of these older party insiders felt we had no idea what we were doing or what was best for the party.  The fact that outside of mostly the Austin area SD's there were almost no young people at the convention was really discouraging.

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YDA Meeting (0.00 / 0)
One of the reasons for that is that the several young delegates from the Dallas area districts needed to go to the Young Democrats of America National Meeting, which was also this weekend, to begin organizing the national apparatus for the 2007 YDA Convention in Dallas.

There were still several young people in those delegations, but it cut down on the numbers.


[ Parent ]
YDA Meeting (0.00 / 0)
Sounds like very bad timing on the part of YDA....

Madeleine

The Texas Maddog Grandma on a rampage against the Extreme Right NeoCons from the White House down to the local school board


[ Parent ]
Conventions Throughout Summer (0.00 / 0)
YDA has to have a meeting every quarter, and they're on a fairly regular schedule. If they tried to work around the 50 state conventions, their schedule would become untenable quickly.

[ Parent ]
It's funny.... (0.00 / 0)
...I felt the exact same thing from the Maxey supporters.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

[ Parent ]
practical politics? (0.00 / 0)
Maybe you misread "looking down on maxey and jones supporters" as simple practical politics.  If someone is wearing a sticker for candidate X, then it's unlikely that they're a persuadable voter.  On the other hand, someone without a sticker is more likely to be open to a persuasion message.

BTW - the Vegas meeting went well.  Texas is one of the ten states that has met all of the YDA requirements for a YDA campaign program this fall.  We'll have more information in the coming weeks.


[ Parent ]
I'm Glen's age (0.00 / 0)
(Boomers Rule!), a total computer geek, a flaming liberal, and a Lesbian who absolutely loves Austin.  I supported Boyd Richie.  Instead of insinuating that anybody who disagrees with you is somehow defective or homophobic, perhaps you should reevaluate your opinions and tactics to see where you're turning people like me away.

[ Parent ]
Hmmm (0.00 / 0)
See, to me it wasnt about being a homophile or homophobe,it was about competence and past experience. Unfortunately I had only one Richie supporter talk to me about why he was supporting Richie.

I disagree with him, but certainly appreciated his actually spelling out the reasons why he like Richie (his main reason was that BR had better contacts with big donors/fundraisers)

Of course, I have always seen that discussions on blogs are always more vitriolic than live discussions, so maybe thats where you experienced some of this name calling?


[ Parent ]
Damn... (0.00 / 0)
that sucks.  I never experienced anything like that from the Maxey crowd.  They could have came up to me and talked shit right to my face with some justification and no one ever did.  When I finally spoke to glen myself, and then spoke to Karl and Nick they treated me with respect and we were able to find a lot of common ground.

[ Parent ]
Not only Maxey people running around (0.00 / 0)
I'm in SD 26 where Charlie won a majority and there was a Richie man there and another in SD 19 (biggest Jones victory on the first round)working really hard to turn Jones supporters into Richie supporters.

In SD 26 our percentages changed not because people turned from Charlie to Boyd (only one actually did), but we lost voters who left that would have voted for Maxey.

Madeleine
The Texas Maddog Grandma on a rampage against the Extreme Right NeoCons from the White House to the local school board

The Texas Maddog Grandma on a rampage against the Extreme Right NeoCons from the White House down to the local school board


[ Parent ]
Wow.... (2.00 / 1)
"but I saw a lot of things at the convention that bothered me with regard to manuvering and it all came out of Maxey's campagin. Any one who was there and was working for Maxey know's what I am talking about."

I worked for the Maxey campaign and I have no idea what you are talking about.  Urbina Jones and Maxey had the same overall vision of reform, but that was all I saw or knew about..

Of course, for someone to call you a homophobe (or DINO) because you wouldnt take a Maxey sticker is ridiculous and horrible. The people I saw and worked with were very upbeat and positive. In fact, most of the Richie people I saw handing out stickers and lit. were nice.

However, the hit piece with the Statesman article made me feel very angry at the Richie campaign, especially as Boyd had just given a speech the previous day about unity and how we democrats should not attack each other.

 


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Hit piece... (0.00 / 0)
Someone please post a URL where this piece is available to read.

I'm a delegate from SD 12, was a firm Maxey supporter, campaign worker, and incidentally an old straight guy.

I passed out lit. for Glen, and we were told in no uncertain terms that Glen was running FOR office and not AGAINST anyone. In my experience at convention the only negative campaigning I saw came out of the Richie campaign.

You will see my convention observations later this week on www.demspeak.com.

The State Chair race was for me a watershed event.

 


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hopefully (0.00 / 0)
it was just a case of an isolated individual and not indicative of Maxey's campaign in general, but either way it really turned me off. I also saw a lot of manuevering on the floor by Maxey's people, perhaps what you saw had a lot to do with where on the floor you were. It's possible that both candidates had obnoxious individuals working for them, I just call it like I see it, and what I saw was some pretty underhanded stuff out of Maxey's campaign, or at least from his supporters.

Prisoner of hope.

[ Parent ]
Underhanded (0.00 / 0)
For all your talk, I am curious about what this "underhandedness" was. Give me a break.

[ Parent ]
underhandedness? (0.00 / 0)
i'm with nick- please explain what you saw. were we passionate about our choice for chair? yes.did we beg delegates stay? offer them dinner? you bet- though it was my personal pocket offering because i thought change so vital. did the lively bandera girls slip all the ritchie signs and nasty a**hole statesman[we called it that back in the 70's, y'all] flyers down to the floor for our feet? yep. okay- so there's the truth from my SD- what else could you possibly have seen?
jamie

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Well for starters (0.00 / 0)
Some people would consider offering to buy people who don't actually care enough about who is elected to stay, something if they will stay to vote for your candidate the equivalent of Buying Votes. Not sure how you can describe that as not being underhanded.
If you were buying dinners for people in 
a regular election in order to get them to vote, it would be election fraud.
And see, I didn't even know about this untill you told me. However, if you think this is "OK", I can certainly see how it is that you may not have realized how some of the other Maxey tactics were equally questionable

Prisoner of hope.

[ Parent ]
Ok, david.... (0.00 / 0)
With this comment and the one above, you are really giving davids a bad name.  Why don't you email me privately and we'll talk a little mathmatics; ponder the chicken\egg of Austin's particular shade of blue; and as a bonus, i'll give you an antibiotic that works really well on Austinitis...

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easy there (0.00 / 0)
not my intention. i'm just repeating what i heard and i will be the first to admit i am not experienced enough in convention politics to know if its true.

As for the Travis County chicken/egg discussion -- first of all, that is a good analogy -- but while Travis County has always been more liberal than most parts of the state it has only recently become completely dominated by Democrats.

Now, lets get ready to help Chairman Richie make all of Texas that way.


[ Parent ]
Full Text of Maxey's Speech at the Convention (4.50 / 8)
So, I can't figure out how to post this as a journal (not a tech guy), but here is Maxey's speech.

GLEN MAXEY SPEECH

Last week, I read a quote in the newspaper that literally shocked me.  It was said by one of those consultants our Party paid last year to shape the Party’s message.

He said: “I consider the State Party to be at its best when it is wholly irrelevant, which, it currently is.”

PAUSE

To that view of our Party, I say: ENOUGH. 

But it rolls of the tongue better in Spanish:  “YA BASTA”

This Party and the core values that it stands for are relevant.  Just a few examples….

Our Party’s view that quality public education is essential for the future of our State is why we’re relevant.

Our support for accessible and affordable health care and the Children’s Health Insurance Program is relevant to hundreds of thousands of kids and families.

Our support for ending an unjust war in Iraq is relevant.

Our positions to protect the environment, our civil rights, and a woman’s right to choose are relevant.

I ask for your vote because we must start today

And as Party Chair, I intend to make each of you, this Party, and its platform, relevant to every Texan. 

Our Party is relevant when we respect every Democrat in this state and work in ALL 254 counties.  Gone will be the days of targeting ourselves into oblivion.  YA BASTA!

Our Party is relevant when we invest resources, tools, and respect for the Bluest parts of our state, South Texas, El Paso, and our urban cores.  Gone will be the days of lip service and empty promises.  YA BASTA! 

Our Party is relevant when we give donors a reason to invest in an institution that motivates voters and wins elections; and when small donors are the foundation of our Party.  Gone will be the days of fundraising only by asking the same people who gave money last year and the year before.  YA BASTA!

Our Party is relevant when we have a platform and a discussion that addresses the glaring problems of our state:

Our failing health-care policy.  YA BASTA!

Our under-funded schools and under-paid teachers.  YA BASTA!

Their failed immigration policy that doesn’t even respect basic human rights.  YA BASTA!

Gone will be the days when we allow Republicans to divide us with wedge issues that ignore what actually matters.  YA BASTA!

Our Party is relevant when we get out of the way of this amazing new generation of young people who know how to organize in 21st century ways.  Gone will be the days of old guys like me telling our youth how to use the failed techniques of the past.  YA BASTA!

This Party is relevant when every thing we do today builds the infrastructure for our victories in 2006, 2008, 2010.

George Bush, Kay Bailey, and Rick Perry.  YA BASTA!

Courthouse Republicans.  YA BASTA!

Tom Craddick and David Dewhurst.  YA BASTA!

PAUSE

And John Cornyn, watch out, you’re next.  YA BASTA!

Gone will be the days of organizing just for this election instead of for every election.  YA BASTA!

I’m ready to lead an aggressive, goal oriented Party that makes us relevant today, relevant tomorrow, and relevant for decades to come.


Great speech. (3.50 / 2)
And very well delivered, too. I wasn't a persuadable voter, but I know that in a few Senate Districts, a lot of undecideds moved to Glen's column because of his nomination speech.

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I guess you had to be there (1.00 / 4)
Because it reads rather unimpressively.  Heard it all a zillion times before.  The problem with it is, the Democratic Party taken as a whole has done every bit as much as the Republican Party to fight the agenda above.  The Democratic Party does not, based on its actions, stand for those things:  only a tiny fraction of it does. 

The fact is that most of the ills Democrats fight today were caused first by Democrats -- all the Republicans did was make it a bit worse.  But Democrats ran Texas education into the ground, Democrats created the state's property tax system, Democrats supported the polluting of Texas' air and water (John Whitmire being among the more recent villains), Democrats supported an immoral war, Democrats have failed to reform health care ever since Truman failed in 1949 (indeed, some want to REWARD Hillary Clinton for her failure in that regard), and in Texas, Democrats taught the Republicans how to gerrymander.  The worst you can say about the Republicans in any of these matters was that they were worse than the Democrats.  How does that make the Democrats good enough to govern?

Maxey's delusions no longer threaten to infect the entire state.  That's a start.


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Oh, please... (0.00 / 0)
Please do tell us how policy will change now that Boyd Ritchie is still TDP chair...

Or better yet, tell us something about Glen Maxey's voting record when he was actually there making things happen at the legislature that would lead you to believe he was a cause of any of the things you listed.


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And you weren't? (0.00 / 0)
Not there "Wanderer"?

Good to see you putting your money where your mouth was. I'd have hoped you'd have been carrying one of the "command control central" walkie talkies. But I guess you just talk shit after the fact.

We'll keep organizing. I know it disappoints you that people with a different viewpoint than you don't go away--well, live with it.


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Living with it is no problem (0.00 / 0)
But anyone who must resort to profanity to communicate his message clearly has not learned to live with it.

I carried a walkie-talkie in '04, and I've done it in the past.  There is nothing terribly special about the role, although the first time you do it it is hard not to feel like you've moved up the party ladder.  Since it's a ladder with only about 4 rungs though, and the top rung is still underwater, you quickly learn how unimpressive that is.

The thing about state conventions is, the entire convention system is obsolete.  FW is my hometown and I _still_ did not want to go this year.  Nothing of consequence is done or decided, although it is fun to socialize with other non-right wingers.  The first convention or two a person goes to is special, but you quickly learn how devoid of content they are.  Talk about the platform and resolutions all you want, but it is talkers talking and will have zero impact on even one election. 

You say you'll keep organizing.  Well, good!  Doesn't bother me at all; I encourage it.  The number one problem in the Democratic Party today is that the whiners are rarely walkers.  And until the party gets better messages and better candidates, walking will not make much difference.  In that regard I personally wish Dean had stayed away from the DNC and run for U.S. Senate instead.  That's the place where he could have done the most good ...


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Communicating with you.. (3.67 / 3)
...is like communicating with a brick wall. For example: Morter Focker. Here is a guy that I couldn't stand leading up to the convention...but when introduced we realized we had a lot in common and now it's cool to know someone who can help organize in Hays County. Phillip Martin didn't support Maxey but after a lot of the major stuff had gone down at the convention, he ran into me in a hallway and said I looked like I needed to eat, and grabbed a sandwich for both me and Maxey after his speech. Class act. We might not see eye to eye all the time, but most people don't, and I know for a fact that there will be a lot of times that we will see eye to eye and will be on the same team. Damon McCuellar wasn't supporting Maxey but he's still a great guy who I enjoy conversation with everytime I run into him. That's the Democratic Party I know.

Not to say that I don't hope that every chair election is not contested, because the discussion is very good for all of us. And while things can easily get heated, there's something that's been already learned by our mentors and older generation--when myself and other young folks were upset about some comments and stuff that were made, while we have strong opinions about it and stuff, what Glen said was "Hey look, it's a campaign." I heard that time and time again from those with more experience. I feel like myself, K-T, Phillip, McPike, Damon, whoever, will all learn that as well. I have a lot of respect for all of those guys--it just happens hat K-T and I were of one opinion and they were of another. So what. Ultimately all these folks are in our party, which is a great thing. I'd much rather have em here than on the other side right.

But you, Wanderer, are just to much. As Barbara Bush said to Al Franken, "I'm through with you!"


[ Parent ]
Or better yet... (4.00 / 2)
YA BASTA!

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Smile if you don't take yourself too seriously :=) (0.00 / 0)
You would be a lot happier, too, if you took your political mind barriers less seriously.  You have thrown up your hands in frustration with me, and you do not even know what I think is important.  It appears you are no better than right-wing Christians at dealing with those who do not see eye-to-eye.

You confirm my point about the obsolescence of conventions:  they are now nothing but an opportunity for social networking.  Social networking is OK, but it does not win elections. 

If you study the history of these conventions, which goes back more than two centuries, their role today is a pale shell of what the role used to be.  In addition to choosing party nominees for external elections -- which we now do in primaries -- they used to be necessary for political networking.  Modern communications technology has removed that need.

But it is certainly a good place for inexperienced activists of all ages, as folks have testified in this thread, to discover how little they know, and how small and unimportant their own petty problems are compared to (or as a part of) the Big Picture.  So I do not say the conventions are bad or a total waste of time.  Just don't use my absence as the basis for an accusation, when my absence is more of a virtue than a vice!


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SD 19 (3.00 / 2)
I was also very surprised that not all of Jones's votes did not swing to Maxey, and personally very disappointed.

SD 19 alone was a puzzle.  In the first vote, SD 19 gave Richie 2.42 votes, Maxey 40.77, and Jones 185.37.  (My fractions may be a bit off; I scratched the first ballot off when recording the second.)  Richie getting 2.42 votes in a district with 232 votes is a strong message.

In the second vote, Richie got 97.18, Maxey 134.82.  (Again, there may be some small errors there.) So Richie went from getting a slap in the face (2.42 votes) to a warm tongue-bath.  What happened?

A young Hispanic woman from another close-by district (19, I believe) came by my SD (18) at that point to talk to a Hispanic member of our SD, a friend of hers.  They both said that the "old guard" in SD19 (particularly Bexar county) would not vote for Maxey, period, and that they'd rather vote for someone they disliked.  (Homophobia was the implication.)  She also implied that a financial deal had been made between those delegates and Richie.  It was a very short period of time between the two ballots; I don't know if a deal could have been made, or if it was. I don't know if either of these things are accurate.  Perhaps the reality was that Richie was just some folks' second choice.  I would really like to know what happened with SD 19's votes, though. 

I was very disappointed, too, at the number of delegates that just wandered away between the first and second votes.  In our delegation, they seemed only to be Maxey delegates, and that made a difference in our SD totals.  (We had several counties to apportion, since no one came to the convention from those counties, and many counties sent incomplete delegations.)  Next year I hope we'll have a different selection and orientation process for delegates for my county.  Dude, stay in place for all the votes!


Lock the doors. (0.00 / 0)
That's what we do at Young Democrats of America conventions -- the vote is called and whips go out and round up delegates, and then everyone's in the room, the doors are locked, and while you can go out, you can't come back in. Perhaps some form of locking the doors, or more aggressive whipping would have been of help.

Understandable, though, that folks wouldn't realize that they had to stay, as it's been so long since there's been a real floor fight.

In my Senate District, a few Boyd Richie voters weren't there the second time, but enough voters broke to Richie from Jones and Maxey that the percentage didn't change.


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Great idea (3.00 / 5)
I think for either side, it def. sucks that people left. People go to their precinct and then SD conventions and get elected delegate, to represent that part of the state.

However, at the same time, and no sour grapes, just what I saw--there was no organization with it--it wasn't as if Bob Slagle got on and said ok, we're gonna have a runoff at such and such time, this is when we are going to vote--as a matter of fact us in SD14 didn't know it was happening at first in the runoff--so people who didn't understand the process took off.

Another thing I took issue with and I think in the future (if this hopefully means we will have contested chair races from now on) was the reading of Richie boxes during the runoff before every district was done voting. Probably wouldn't have been the difference, but when the first ten boxes announced are boxes that Richie won the first time around, it's kind of interesting--it's easy to say "in the interests of time..." but when youve got districts totally voting and youre giving the impression that it's a big ol ass kicking, its the equivalent of election results in 2000 being announced before polls had closed everywhere else.

In the future, I would like to see no results announced whatsoever until every SD is in and finished voting.

It's the small stuff.


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I'd Like to See the Voting System Reformed (3.00 / 1)
I agree that they shouldn't start reading ballot results until all the votes have been turned in to the chair of the nominations committee or convention, yet I also understand the need to get through the second voting quickly, as the hour was growing late and there was a lot of work to be done.

If possible, perhaps next time the TDP should line up some of us with laptops and some spreadsheeting ability to head out to the large multi-candidate district with preset spreadsheets that can quickly turn their raw vote into percentages and allotments.

I'd also like to see them lose the fractions, and require votes to be reported in whole numbers. That's partly a cosmetic thing, but also I think that votes should be indivisible.

I wonder if there'd be any rule or law that would prevent a live count of the race as it progresses to be displayed on the big screens during the voting. While I love keeping track on my laptop, it seems unfair to me that only those who can write quickly or who are by someone with a laptop get to know precisely where the vote is as it comes in.


[ Parent ]
Instead of locking the doors, why not IRV? (0.00 / 0)
(That's "Instant Runoff Voting.")

We're considering that for our club for endorsement meetings - precisely because people wander off after the first ballot


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Calculation Nightmare (3.00 / 1)
Look how long it took those giant multi-candidate counties to calculate their votes just on a standard one-vote ballot. An IRV system would have taken them forever!

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That is the truth.. (0.00 / 0)
nt

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Isn't that a trait of an authoritarian regime (0.00 / 0)
Forcing people to vote?  Without the freedom to vote with our feet, we have no freedom at all.  Isn't that what our state reps did when they ran away to Ardmore? 

[ Parent ]
I wouldn't consider it "forced" (0.00 / 0)
Since you always have the option of voting to abstain.

[ Parent ]
there was a deal made (1.00 / 4)
thats how Bob Slagle and Peck Young have been operating for years.

Several candidates were running to try to bring change to the Texas Democratic Party. None of them were named Boyd Richie.


[ Parent ]
SD19... (0.00 / 0)
SD19 is a blue social conservative district.  They are predominantly hispanic, but they are roman catholic predominantly. 

[ Parent ]
and they (0.00 / 0)
gave Boyd Richie 2 point something on the first ballot. I was surprised by that.

[ Parent ]
19 (0.00 / 0)
oh, yeah, she spoke truth. i was there. i heard money promises[for races, mind you] and fear and loathing of different sexual orientation. you know that hard tone some people get when they speak of the "deviant"? i was pretty dispirited after that vote and watching one of my sdec members  ritchie lobbying despite charlie's stated wishes. and of course we were swarmed by "ritchie boys" between votes.

it's a bitch of a district;from w/nw san antone to eastern el paso with an overwhelming urban presence that disenfranchises the rural counties. the good news is that i saw great challenges to two moribund sdec members from the rural precincts. matter of fact- if i'd known the majority rules better there would have been a challenge.

anyway, am sorry i'm so green i wasn't able to effect change earlier for the wonderful mr. maxey but maybe next time. hope boyd is interested in engaging the nearly 50% that did NOT vote for him. i want change from the top down as well as the bottom up. maybe we can meet in the middle.
btw- anyone know what happened with the tejano vote? why charlie didn't pull more[south tx particularly]?


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Well, I have to say... (5.00 / 1)
some of the elderly and infirm will be dead soon. Maybe next convention we won't have to deal with their bullshit.

That's one way things change.


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Another way things change (0.00 / 0)
is the youngsters grow up.

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South texas didnt send many delegates to the convention... (0.00 / 0)
I heard something of the SD with laredo in it sending hardly anyone, and they were apparently boyd supporters.

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A more central location (0.00 / 0)
like San Antonio (Austin's too expensive, plus there's that whole TRAFFIC FROM HELL thing) would have helped.  Fort Worth is a 6.5 hour drive from Corpus Christi, and almost 8.5 hours from  Brownsville.

[ Parent ]
San Antonio (0.00 / 0)
Hosted the Republican Convention last weekend. Maybe we'll go in 2008?

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No, I think (0.00 / 0)
...we'll be in Austin next time.

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soutex dems/ convention sites (0.00 / 0)
i smell promises and deals. think i'll watch and see whether south texas gets much attention this election cycle. hmmmmm- good bellweather for the worth of ritchie promises?
as for conventions- absolutely san antonio is the city best set up for them in terms of rooms and co-ordination. too much of this years was a MESS and awkward. ft. worth has a wonderful downtown but the room thing sucked. is anyone ever going to buy a "gala" dinner ticket again?

[ Parent ]
Well, it's over (0.00 / 0)
I was a strong Maxey supporter, but now it time to move forward.

My best wishes to Boyd Richie during his term.


What happened in SD21? (3.00 / 1)
Until 30 minutes prior to the first vote, I was the only Webb County delegate present on the floor & seated in my delegation. Webb County has 119 votes, which is 46% of the vote in SD21.  Raymond & his aide showed up at the last minute (I'm sure phone calls were made once folks realized there was someone on the floor with all 119 Webb votes to play with), and I immediately called 2 other Webb County delegates who had left.  They did not make it back in time for the first round of voting, so the vote in Webb went 2/1 Richie.  They came back in time for the run-off, at which time our vote was 3/2 Maxey.  Had there not been 2 delegates from Webb voting for Richie, Maxey would have carried SD21 based on the vote from Webb County, combined with the votes from Frio, Bexar, & Wilson (although Wilson was a split delegation as well). I also had the proxy for the little old lady from Frio (8 votes) who supported Maxey because he was the only candidate who told her he supported Initiative & Referendum.

Just As a Tactical Suggestion (0.00 / 0)
Don't announce that you have such a large, and easily removable, voting advantage in a public meeting. Boyd's campaign was aware of the problem in Webb County within minutes of the end of the tabulations committee meeting, and was obviously able to address the situation. Without being made aware, however, it might have slipped under the radar.

[ Parent ]
I'm new at this (0.00 / 0)
so I'm still stumbling over my feet. Yes, in retrospect, that was not a very smart thing to do & I'm sure those who think they're smarter & better than me because I'm (a) a rookie & (b) supported Maxey are laughing at me right now. Go ahead, laugh. I don't care. I've got work to do.

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I'm not laughing, NotARubberStamp (0.00 / 0)
In fact I'm proud of you.  You did the best your could by getting your voting strength back to your SD.  You learned quickly.  So much of this is a learning experience.  How many of us even knew about the procedure for proxy votes?  The people who know the rules well enough to manipulate them, will.  That's part of the game plan to win.  Next time we'll be better prepared.

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I don't think anyone's laughing (0.00 / 0)
I was just pointing out a suggestion. In politics, information is power, and you never want to let the other side know something that is valuable or helpful to you.

[ Parent ]
SD9 (0.00 / 0)
Kirk, that is a super breakdown of the votes. Thanks for making maps!

Speaking for SD9, we actually had our shit together and turned in our vote first on the runoff. Dallas, Denton & Tarrant apparently know how to work it! Our tabulations committee members worked out a simple process. I think the vote tipped to Richie in our SD because of the Dallas County voters. I believe Tarrant and I know Denton were both majority Maxey each time. (Denton's raw vote was 16 Maxey, 11 Richie each time) But Richie's 79.5 votes to Maxey's 69.5 votes is pretty damn close in a runoff as well.

We can all speculate as to why Richie won the votes he did (and I know why SD23 went his way and it did have a lot to do with the homo topic). But, keep in mind Maxey only lost by around 6% overall. So this was not a mandate folks. Mandates only exist in the minds of the GOP. So let's not get our panties in a wad and cry and take our ball(s) home because our candidate lost the chair race. We need to give Richie a chance to do what he has promised to do. And if he doesn't follow through, we can send him packing in 2008.


Watch the Broad the Accusations (0.00 / 0)
I am a member of SD23 and I saw who voted for Richie. If you're trying to insinuate that homophobia on the part of those who didn't vote for Maxey, then you're disparaging the large portion of whites, liberals and, yes, gay people who all voted for Boyd Richie, and basically mocking the non-negligible portion of African Americans in SD23 who voted for Glen Maxey.

If Maxey had won the entire liberal vote, he would have won SD23. He didn't. As it was, he barely won a majority of the liberal GLBT SD23 delegates on the second vote. Maxey wasn't attractive enough to the folks who "should" have been his base, otherwise the results likely would have been very different statewide.


[ Parent ]
true (0.00 / 0)
it was the people who were part of what should have been Maxey's natural base that  cost him the race

[ Parent ]
yes indeedy (0.00 / 0)
i wonder what they were promised in order to win their vote.

Fudd's first law of opposition: Push something hard enough and it will fall over.

[ Parent ]
Who Has to Be Promised Anything? (0.00 / 0)
Is it so hard to believe that some of us liberals and gay folks might actually believe Boyd Richie is doing a good job, and that he has the right plan in terms of reform?

[ Parent ]
no one has to be promised (0.00 / 0)
anything and you have clearly articulated your support for Boyd Richie several times. But, often times people are promised things in exchange for their support and it seems like a legitimate question to raise though not towards you specifically.

[ Parent ]
Please end this debate (0.00 / 0)
it's time to move on.  for all of us.

[ Parent ]
Maybe not you, but some people... (0.00 / 0)
certainly got something out of their vote. As soon as I can verify, I'll be posting it and will cross it over here.

[ Parent ]
Please don't restrict your investigation to just Boyd. (0.00 / 0)
What kind of deals were the other candidates offering?  Who (political consultants and others) stood to make money if Glen or Charlie had won?  If you do this right you can drag out the divisiveness to the next chair election.

[ Parent ]
Promises (0.00 / 0)
I'm for this "who got what" debate to end, but I for one didn't promise anyone a damn thing for a vote.  Never have, never will.  Glen

[ Parent ]
I was being sarcastic. (0.00 / 0)
I don't believe you (or Charlie or Boyd) were buying votes.

[ Parent ]
Also, let me clarify something. (0.00 / 0)
I know some of the Maxey supporters are bitterly disappointed, but I believe they're taking things way too personally.  From my point of view I was thrilled we had three highly qualified candidates for TDP chair.  I know Boyd and felt he was the best candidate, but I would have been just as happy if either Charlie or Glen had won.  For me it was a win-win-win situation.  Just because I voted FOR Boyd doesn't mean I was AGAINST Glen or Charlie.

Glen conceded graciously and continues to support Democrats and the party.  If you are truly a Glen Maxey supporter then try to show as much class as he has and knock off the whining.  We've got some tough races in November and would much rather have you pounding on the other guys than on each other.


[ Parent ]
of course (0.00 / 0)
we all will come together this year and in the future to beat Republicans.

but in 2008 we will be back at the convention -- this time in Austin -- and we will take back the party and it won't just be the chair that we will take down it will be every party office, from Chair to SDEC to DNC committeepeople.


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Who's "we" (0.00 / 0)
and from whom do "we" need to take our party back?  I've noticed references to old people in this thread (including The Trey's desire to have many of them drop dead), but what do you consider old?  In the 60's we weren't supposed to trust anybody over 30, but since Boomers are starting to turn 60 this year we've had to revise that and now don't trust anybody UNDER 30 (just kidding).  In any case, if "we" want to take back anything "we" will need the Boomers' help.  There's just too darn many of us to ignore -- and most of us are going to live another 20-30 years (sorry Trey).

"We" also need to work with the emerging Latino/a majority, especially in South Texas.  Politics are a full-contact sport down here, and South Texas Democrats tend to be a bit more conservative that those in Austin.  Don't wait until 2008 to visit.  Folks down here have too much experience with politicians who visit only when there's an election, then ignore the area the rest of the time.


[ Parent ]
its not an age thing (0.00 / 0)
is not a liberal/conservative thing. its a change thing.

Glen is 54 years old and none of the top leaders of DFT that I can think of besides Nick Lawrie are under 30.

Glen Maxey's support was by no means limited to young people. If you were at the convention that was pretty damn clear.

"We" are the people who are tired of the same old same old and want to take back this state.


[ Parent ]
about sd23 (0.00 / 0)
Not everyone in our district is liberal. I hate to point out that a majority of our district is black.  One black memeber in my district pointed out that when she goes to churches she has heard many preachers say do not vote for gay canidates.  So in a sense its more of a racial christian thang. Since the majority of our districts falls into oak cliff.  Its mostly black. Looking at the SD at the front of the group I saw more older folks than younger folks.  Thus they in my opinion tende to be more homophob than a younger one.

[ Parent ]
Not Everyone Is a Liberal, No (0.00 / 0)
But there were African American, and older folks, voting for Glen Maxey, and plenty of the African Americans and older folks voting for Boyd Richie are confirmed liberals. Clearly the several gay people who voted for Richie were not doing so out of homophobia, nor were the few young people who were there and voting for Richie.

Did homophobia influence some votes in this race? Certainly. And that's pathetic.

Of course, I'd argue that voting based on demographics of any sort is pathetic -- voting FOR someone because they are X, voting AGAINST someone because they are Y, those aren't legitimate reasons, in my opinion, to cast a ballot. They're certainly not particularly "informed" votes.


[ Parent ]
The 20,000 dollar question (0.00 / 0)
why did you vote for boyd rather than maxey?

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Possible, but.... (0.00 / 0)
I'd point out that the 23rd just got through electing an openly gay guy to the SDEC this weekend, and he wasn't the first - they did it as early as 1990.

The 23rd has the greatest record of diversity in the election of SDEC, convention committees and National Convention Delegates than any other SD in the state - including the high and mighty SD 14.


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high and mighty (0.00 / 0)
Can anyone explain to me why people like Mr. Stevens insist on viewing Travis County as "high and mighty" instead of maybe learning something? Taking a look at some of the outside of the box things we did that got Mark Strama elected by 500 votes?

Instead there is this disdain. I'm sorry sir for working my ass off and thinking of new things to do, ways to earn media, etc...there's a lot people do elsewhere, and we in Travis can learn a lot too. But people like you instead opt to not like SD14. Brilliant.


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Gimme a break (0.00 / 0)
I'm a native Austinite and grew up there long before it became a liberal paradise after 1982.  And your post is exactly  the kind of Austin triumphalistic arrogance that is so irritating to the rest of us in the state.

Baby, it's easy to win elections in Travis.  It's unusual when you don't. Winning in Dallas or Fort Worth is a hellu'va lot harder.  Try winning when you're not the majority party in the county. Try winning without the lavish financial resources Travis Democrats have gotten used to. Try winning a County with 4 times the population but with a tenth the volunteer base - most of whom over the age of 45.  Try winning without a 45K+ university student body. And try winning in a County not located in the "Hippie belt" but smack-dab in the middle of the "Bible Belt."

The idea that a "Travis model" is some exportable commodity is ludicrous.  Your successful model may be right for Travis, but not for Ector.

And by the way, my friend, we worked just as hard as y'all did to get Martin Frost and Katy Hubener elected and moved the Democratic margin alot further in much more Republican Districts.  Maybe if you took a peek outside your own little box and learned something from us, Strama would have won by more than a paltry 500 votes!


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we tried winning, and won (0.00 / 0)
Maybe you forgot that the seat Donna Howard now holds was once held by Susan Combs. And that in 2002, just two cycles ago, it was as much as 55% republican. Then in 2004, it was 50%. Then in 2006 it was less than 45% in it's votes cast for Republican Ben Bentzin.

You're right, in the rich/rural western part of Travis county, it was obviously those legions of commie pinkos which were responsible for Howard's victory. Same thing in Conservative northeren Travis/Pflugerville, where the Prop 2 marriage amendment actually passed in Strama's district.

Your right, out model for Travis does win. And I'd love to know who suggested transplanting the exact same thing into any  county.

Just be prepared, when you win Dallas County this fall and in the future years, you can join us in having to defend the hard work you did to guarentee and keep our counties the way they are. There are hundreds more to go.


[ Parent ]
Oh jeepers! (1.00 / 1)
How could I forget Donna Howard's victory? That's my parent's - and my "ancestral" - House district. I grew up on the mean streets of HD 48. I was bullied at Murchison Jr. High School for my unfashionably short hair; drank from my first bottle of Southern Comfort in the parking lot of Anderson High with Lisa Harrover after latin class; and actually splattered vomit onto Mesa drive from my friend Randy's speeding convertible while listening to "Heart of Glass" on an 8-track. I even impaled my folks' volkswagen bus on an embankment at Dry Creek and FM2222. Such sweet memories.

Not only did NickDFT in this posting suggest exporting the Travis model elsewhere, but I would daresay that it was, oh, conservatively, 80% of Mr. Maxey's platform.

Alas, I give y'all great credit for taking advantage of an opportunity in HD48, but Dallas Dems are no more responsible for the 7% increase in Dem countywide performance since 1998 than you guys are in HD48.  And with our bloated countywide ticket, we're also savvy enough to take advantage of it.


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48 (0.00 / 0)
wasnt just taking advantage of an opportunity it was a huge upset. Democrats got nearly 60% of the vote in the first vote and that is in a Republican district.

And now that we have demonstrated that no Republican is safe in Travis County the only countywide R left switched parties. If she hadnt she woulda been dead in 08.


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unopposed (0.00 / 0)
And I heard the gay man in question was unopposed, since nobody else wanted the job, so what does that prove? That SD23 delegates can choose between option A and option Nada?

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Desperate (0.00 / 0)
You're desperate to accuse people who voted for Richie of homophobia, aren't you?

The new SDEC member, Buck Massey, was elected unopposed because he had already locked up support and no one ran against him — up until the convention, there was at least one rumored opponent. Buck had already been endorsed by the influential members of the Senate district, white, Hispanic, African American, female, male, gay and straight. People didn't just support him because they had no other choice, they were enthusiastically behind him from the beginning.

Buck isn't the first gay man to represent the district you are so quick to defame for being anti-gay as a member of the SDEC, either.


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the Statesman hatchet job (0.00 / 0)
I didn't see the flyers, but I was told by couple of people that the Richie campaign put a copy of the Statesman editorial bashing Glen on each chair in the convention hall. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

confirmed. (0.00 / 0)
I was very, very disappointed that they did that.

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Regrettable, yes. (1.00 / 1)
But how is it any different than Maxey sending out emails on behalf of Valinda Bolton, saying that Democrats could "kiss District 47 Goodbye" if Jason Earle was their candidate? And that it would create a "national referendum on Ronnie Earle and Tom Delay" and adversely affect other highly-contested Travis County races?

Seems to me that Maxey got a taste of some medicine that's on his shelf, too.


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i don't (0.00 / 0)
really see how those are comparable

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Then your eyes are closed (0.00 / 0)
The Statesman reports that Democratic hopes in November will be squashed in the event of Maxey running the party. Richie campaign greasily uses that to its advantage.

Republicans say that they would love to turn elections into a referendum on Ronnie Earle. Maxey greasily uses it to his advantage, and states that a Jason Earle campaign will squash Democratic hopes in November.

I dislike the tactic in both instances, but they are the same thing.


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open your eyes (0.00 / 0)
Because now you don't have to worry about either one, as both Jason and Glen are not the nominees.

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whoa there! (0.00 / 0)
I wasn't trying to be mean spirited with my comments. I was just pointing out that it's disingenuous for people to sit back and go, "oh, those mean Richie folks" in regards to the Statesman article. It was an opportunity, and they tried to use it to their advantage.

The candidates were obviously playing for keeps, and such a maneuver had to be expected. As a veteran of the Dean campaign, Maxey has seen how ugly things can get sometimes.

Besides, when you have an editorial from a candidate's hometown newspaper saying that this is "the wrong man at the wrong place at the wrong time", do you really believe that it's going to disappear? You might recall that at least a quarter of America knew that Crawford's Lone Star Iconoclast refused to endorse John Kerry. Who do you think spread that around? We did.

This is hardball, people. Suck it up. Because the Republicans are gonna play a lot dirtier.


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the real story on the statesman (0.00 / 0)
Here, let me spell this out because people don't realize how integrated the editorials were with the Richie campaign.

Peck Young was Richie's campaign manager. Peck Young is also Sen. Barrientos consultant. Barrientos endorsed Richie. Glen Maxey was elected to a "hispanic" district in the Texas house in 1991 where he defeated a hispanic woman. The seat was once help by Barrientos. Him and Glen havn't gotten along politically for years. Barrientos has a longtime friend who happens to also be the editor of the Statesman. The statesman didn't like the Prop 1 & 2 campaigns in Austin this spring and if you read *any* of the coverage of that campaign, you could hardly call the statesman "fair and balanced".

Barrientos made a call and his pal the editor who already didn't like Glen approved the editorial hits.

There you go, it's that simple.


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but (0.00 / 0)
one is based upon a person's sexual orientation and the other is based upon what republicans would have surely done: linked jason to his father.

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Reread the Statesman editorial. (0.00 / 0)
At no point does it mention that Maxey is gay.

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the implication behind (0.00 / 0)
the statement that he will hurt candidates is that the reason for this is Glen is gay. They dont have to spell it out.

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That is not correct. (0.00 / 0)
The implication, and they spell it out quite ruthlessly, is that he is an ultra-liberal that happens to be wildly out of touch with the rest of Texas. They challenge his fundraising abilities, and point to his recent failings as a political advisor, for both the statewide Prop 2, and the recent local propositions.

Agree with those charges or not, but they do not imply that he is gay. In fact, I assume that they went to great lengths not to come across as gay-bashers. Notice that the editorial states their opposition to the constitutional amendment.


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read (0.00 / 0)
between the lines

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