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January 30, 2006When Blogs Attack?By Vince LeibowitzThe Washington Post has an interesting article up that outlines a supposed intraparty rift among Democrats. According to the article, liberal bloggers and interest groups are fighting elected officials trying to "appeal to a much broader audience," and this could "complicate efforts to win back the White House." The article says that such "activists" "have denounced what they regard as a flaccid Democratic response to the Supreme Court fight, President Bush's upcoming State of the Union address and the Iraq war. In every case, they have portrayed party leaders as gutless sellouts." Woah. I thought that's what we were trying to do to the Republicans. Here is one of the things the article mentions I haven't noticed, so I guess I've been living under a rock:
Aside from everything else, what does this mean: "Blogs can take up a lot of time if you're on them???" As in, if you are being interviewed by them, if you're reading them, or what? I also found this interesting:
Oh, really? You mean there aren't far-left wing bloggers, liberal bloggers, liberal-centrist and centrist bloggers out there all working for Democrats? Is that not representative of the majority? As for "harness[ing] [our] energy and [our] money without looking like [they] are a captive of the activist left," how is that any different from using union activists for blockwalking, or taking money from any number of various and sundry PACs? Finally, and then I'll shut up on this article:
Ok, this is not Virginia and this is not 1992. Stronger on the economy, yes, a more centrist image, not necessarily. Why be GOP Lite? What is the point? That's what the left wing of the Republican party is for. We are Democrats. By definition, all of us (from ultra-liberals to moderate Democrats) are pretty much on the opposite end of the spectrum from the Republicans on over half of their platform issues. Why pander? Why not offer a real alternative? Furthermore, what's the difference between what Democrats were doing regarding campaigns (which were mentioned on Kos and Democrats.com) to call our Senators asking them to oppose Alito than when Republicans have done similar things? It's just that the glove is on the other hand, I guess... Posted by Vince Leibowitz at January 30, 2006 04:34 PM | TrackBackComments
Oh, and I'm one of them. The problem is that the elected's don't appear to represent anyone. I don't know of a single Democrat (conservative, liberal or progressive) who thought Alito would be a good person to have on the court. Oh sure, they'll vote for cloture and against Alito tomorrow but we know when the real vote happened... I really do I have to say I'm suprised so many Republicans are supportive of him. Posted by: original TREY at January 30, 2006 05:15 PMBecause the country wants GOP lite. The far left has hijacked the party for long enough. Strong on national security, fiscally conservative, socially progressive. Offering an alternative no one wants doesn't bode well. Posted by: Shloky at January 30, 2006 05:55 PMThe far left has hijacked the party for long enough? Which Democratic Party are you talking about? The only "far left" person I can think of in any position of leadership within the party might be Gov. Dean. And, of course, he's not actually far left, just his supporters. And he's only there, really, because DNC members hoped he would be big-name enough for fundraising. Everone else is "moderate." I'm not even sure these labels really apply to anyone anymore anyway, but I guess we're going to keep using them. Anyway, the "moderates" control the party, yet we're still not in the majority. Posted by: Nate at January 30, 2006 06:46 PMActually, Shloky, that defines just about every Democrat I know. Problem is, I don't see that in Congress. I see Democrats who, aside from the implications for the country, made a political decision to allow the R's to close the deal on Alito and they don't even realize just how far things will go with him on the court. Posted by: original TREY at January 30, 2006 10:35 PMNate - The Kos/Move-On crowd has a tendency to hijack the public face of the party. Dean is out there and doing a poor job for the party - I'd fire him. Kerry is posting on Kos now. I sincerely hope you're right though. Trey - I'm the same way. The disconnect between us and Congress is troubling. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/30/AR2006013001021_pf.html I guess there were 19 Democrats who were "appealing to a broader audience." Alito will be the fifth Roman Catholic on the current Supreme Court. That right there is a majority on the court which should frighten any Roman Catholic who has watched the Vatican once again define what is and is not acceptable for Catholics under a Pope many refer to as the Rottweiler. One must obey the Pope. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me." Except the Pope. No doubt the Bush Administration will move quickly to see that Roe v Wade is overturned along with quite a few other decisions including 21.06. On the assumption that the Vatican will exert pressure with regard to Catholic doctrine and dogma. Which does not allow for abortion, gay rights, women's rights apart from those afforded her by marriage and the man she is married to, or much of anything except a very narrow view of what human existence is supposed to be based solely on an even narrower view formed by a bunch of old men sitting in the Vatican "pontificating" as to the meaning of it all based on what a bunch of men sitting around 2,000 years ago decided was the meaning of it all. No doubt all 19 will vote against Alito tomorrow. As if that makes up for their allowing the vote to take place to begin with. Very sad day tomorrow. It will mark the beginning of the end of constitutional rights in this country because it will mark the end of the Constitution as an absolute standard of law. A justice who already lied once to Congress in a confirmation hearing. He said he would recuse himself from any case involving Vanguard and then had to be forced to do so. You would expect a Republicans to support such a man. But not a Democrat. Who are these 19 Democrats who betrayed their own? http://www.now.org/press/01-06/01-30.html "Today's vote is the only Alito vote that really counts. Votes against Alito tomorrow are irrelevant, and no senator who voted "Yes" today can hide behind a "No" vote tomorrow." And there were 19 Democrats who voted yes. http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/campaignforthecourt/2006/01/roll_call_of_th.html Democrats Yes Akaka, Hawaii; Baucus, Mont.; Bingaman, N.M.; Byrd, W.Va.; Cantwell, Wash.; Carper, Del.; Conrad, N.D.; Dorgan, N.D.; Inouye, Hawaii; Johnson, S.D.; Kohl, Wis.; Landrieu, La.; Lieberman, Conn.; Lincoln, Ark.; Nelson, Fla.; Nelson, Neb.; Pryor, Ark.; Rockefeller, W.Va.; Salazar, Colo. And as if by portent, Coretta Scott King died last night. Posted by: Baby Snooks at January 31, 2006 08:19 AMWell, that's a nice list of people to whom I will never give money:) I really don't think people have even a basic understanding of how bad Alito could be for the rule of law in this country. I hope like hell I'm being chicken little about this, but I honestly don't think so. Posted by: original TREY at January 31, 2006 09:45 AMIsnt BOR one of the blogs in question? :) I wouldnt call this moderate here. But we all post here and still bash the far left of the party. Well guess what? The Democrats are supposed to be far left. Republicans are supposed to be far right. And when its time to win an election, you come to the middle. Its simple political science. And if those that stay far left or far right would realize this, they would win elections more often. And in this case, the Democrats are doing the worse job at grabbing the middle come election time. Thats the only problem. Posted by: John at January 31, 2006 09:53 AMJohn - What exactly is the middle? The problem with Democrats is that we consistently support these weak as hell candidates and then go 'aw shucks' when they don't win. I think the problem isn't running to the middle it's convincing the majority of voters (the middle) that you are the person best suited for the office and with the best ideas. Doesn't hurt if you can make your opponent look like the bastard at a family reunion. When you have Democrats who refuse to give a clear position on an issue and an R who puffs out his chest and screams their position to everyone very clearly, you have a victory for an R. Think about 2004. Kerry took a MONTH to defend himself. A MONTH. What the hell does that say about the truth of the rumor/innuendo? Keep in mind, it took not only the swift boat BS but a ton of other stuff, as well as the administration scaring the hell out of people about terrorist for Bush to win. Can you imagine if Kerry had met the swifties head on AND called Bush a liar? 53% of the popular and Florida and Ohio would have gone solidly for Kerry. People want to see balls. Posted by: original TREY at January 31, 2006 11:18 AMPost a comment
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