Burnt Orange Report

Byron. You and your side never talked about electoral reform when Bill Clinton was being elected without a majority.

Well no one was really talking about electoral reform until after the 2000 election when we all realized that there was a problem. As for myself, I wasn't calling for electoral reform before 2000, Chris, because well - I was not involved in politics before 2000. So what if Clinton was a "minority" president - at least he received more votes than his opponents, which is more than Bush in 2000 could say.

Hey guys, is whatever happened in Ohio, enough for you to die for to fix? Or is it just a few questions in a few counties? Just a minority of problems. Is it time to rally in the streets, and hell or high water, make sure our vote is allowed and counted? Look to the Ukrainians for example, where are the mass demonstrations in Ohio? Where is the crescendo?

Was there problems in Wisconcin, New Hampshire, Iowa, New Mexico? Where are those protest? Y'all were very vocal here about Herbert Vo.

62,040,000 votes for our President.

Ill. Sen. Obamma just said "He is convinced that George W. Bush won the election on November 2, 2004."

Get over it and move on.

Peter - Bush won Ohio and the election... I accept that.

I'll continue to be vocal about Hubert Vo. Vo won, then he won the recount, then he won another recount. Time for Heflin and Opieda to join Stick and give it up.

It was aptly pointed out today.

These election "irregularities" the libs are whining about ONLY happen in Democrat areas. Areas where the elected officials and election judges are DEMOCRATS.

So shouldn't we be targeting those people? If there's such a huge problem that we have to interrupt the electoral process on the floor of the Senate... shouldn't we give stricter scrutiny and post police officers at these Democratic polls? Maybe we should videotape them all to stop these "irregularities".

Oh yes...

While Team Bush 2000 may not have been able to claim a majority of the popular vote... Bush 2004 is saying "Eat Our Dust".

And that really eats you up, doesn't it? hehehe

Then why challenge the Ohio Electors? Why is the process being held up for the first time in over a hundred years? That should ONLY be done when something significant happens. Irregularities happen each and every vote. Are these poll workers criminal? They are just ordinary Americans like you and me. Did they intend to create a problem? Do we need to learn from the Ukrainian, how to vote? A Ukrainian would stand in line 24 hours to vote. Think Americans would? The Afgan women prepared to die before they went to the polls to vote. Did Americans?

Everyone in line to vote at closing time were allowed to vote if they remained in line.

By the way, is VO pronounced VO or VU?

"You and your side never talked about electoral reform when Bill Clinton was being elected without a majority."

Huh? I didn't think the objections were about the electoral college and popular vote vs. electoral vote. There are some very serious questions here in Ohio about how the Dem precincts were handled differently than GOP ones. VERRRRRRY long lines, while some ballot machines sat unused in warehouses. And after all the problems with punch card ballots in 2000 and the impact on the final result, you have to ask why so little has been done to improve things since.

But back to Bubba Bill. Funny how some folks report the numbers cleverly and selectively. Clinton's margin of victory in the popular vote and the electoral vote was substantially greater than Bush in 2004. Not to mention 2000, of course. I don't know what is the threshold for a mandate, but 2.5% or so seems awfully small to crow about. And if you want to brag that Bush in 2004 garnered more popular votes than any other presidential candidate before, be sure to mention that Kerry did also.

It's Hubert Vo. "Hubert" as in Humphery and "Vo" and in it rhymes with "Go".

Thanks Byron, I wasn't sure and apologies for misspellings.