Burnt Orange Report

In the brief post here you've got 1977 and the long post in the link 1877. Refering to 1877, aparently there needs to be something significant to use this method of protest, for the fact that it hasn't happened in a while. What was so significant in the 2004 vote? Y'all's guy didn't win? What a waste of time. And how foolish those protesters looked, how petty? Your very correct that the best time for this proceedure would have been in 2001. I've seen Congressmen pleading for someone of backbone in the Senate to take up the cause and challenge the Florida Electors. No takers, not even Ms. Boxer or Mr. Kerry or Mr. Edwards or Mr. Kennedy. Where was Mr. Kerry? Not at his day job, again.

Peter, you ignorant slut. Why not read one of the numerous articles explaining what the Congress members' protest was about instead of just showing how clueless you are by asking us to explain it for you?

Or if reading is too much work, just watch one of the videos documenting the fraud.

Then come back here and tell us how it doesn't matter to you. Oh, and be sure to also tell the Ukranians (and even your Republican friends in WA) about petty they look protesting that elections must be fair to be valid.

I don't think that the Democrats looked petty. I think that they were doing their job of looking out for their constituants. I'm most aggravated with the press for characterizing the Democrats objection as sour grapes when in they were objecting voter disinfranchisement.

Before Peter calls the Democrats petty looking perhaps he should cast his eyes northward to Washington State. The Democrats had called for every vote to be counted in the Governors election but the Republicans opposed that in court. Now that they have lost they are accusing the Democrats of ignoring due process and limiting vote counting. Now who looks petty?

Democrats of for EVERY vote counting. That's what this is about. How can we have confidence in our voting system if we don't now for sure that every vote counts? How can we take the moral high ground with other countries if our system is seriously flawed? How embarrassing is it that India has a better electronic voting system than we do?

Why can't we agree that we can make this voting system the best and be the envy of the world?

Those Ukrainians would stand in line ALL night to vote, too bad Ohio Democrats wouldn't. Afgan women prepared to die for their voting privledge. How many Ohio Democrats didn't vote at all? How come Democrats don't know how to vote? You're supposed to be the more intelligent of the parties, yet you don't get enough votes anymore, even when Democrats run the polling centers.

Our fellow Americans in Washington State, 54% feel the final, certified election of Ms Gregoire is not legitiment. Looks like a lot of LBJ type voting up there. You know dead people voting.

Ask Florence Kinnune, her husband died in September, she said she wrote "deceased" on his absentee ballot envelope and returned it to the county. He was credited with voting. I like Your count every vote mantra, I didn't know that included dead people, is that how Senator Kerry got 59,027,335 votes? Most ever for a Democrat. If dead people are included in your side of the vote, then our President surely has a mandate!

The electoral vote contest was silly. I don't care if they had bad voting places blah blah blah, it wasn't enough to change the outcome. Perhaps it was a good idea to raise the issue publicly so that in the future they'll be more wary about that sort of thing, but this election was won by Bush, unfortunately. It made us look like sore losers and out of touch with reality- which we don't need right now.

Furthermore, 4 years ago everyone on our side was all up in arms becuase Gore won the popular vote and it wasn't fair that Bush got to be president just because of the silly ol' Electoral College (an institution I support). Now look at the change of heart- even if Kerry won Ohio (and the election), he'd still be a couple of million votes short of Bush overall. Looks like the Electoral College is only "antiquated" and "undemocratic" when our guy loses. Pick a position and stick with it- Bush won. It sucks, I know, but the answer isn't to try and overturn the election but rather to learn your lessons, have a drink and get ready for the next fight.

I was proud of the fact that a majority of Democrats voted against this rediculous waste of time.

What did Bill Clinton say last week on Larry King Show? "I voted for the other fellow, But President Bush won this election fair and square."

No clearer statement needed. The greatest President ever said it. Must be true, he wouldn't mislead us would he?

What did Hillary say yesterday? Legitimate questions of accuracy, integrity, not confined to just Ohio. Why did they only pick on Ohio and not New Mexico? Just 6/7 thousand votes there, Nevada just 40K votes there, Iowa 13K votes there. Win those 3 and your tied. Surely those numbers are easier to overcome.

Andrew, if you think the protest against certification of the Ohio electoral votes was just sour grapes, go here http://www.votersunite.org/info/mapflyerohio2004.pdf.
There was more voter irregularities in Ohio than you could shake a stick at, but the mainstream media refused to cover it. So the indications point to the Bush campaign winning 2004 the same way they won 2000-- they stole it. So is American still a democracy?