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December 11, 2004

Tuesday's with Tucker Carlson: going where no bow tie has gone before

By Nathan Nance

Guest post by Nate Nance

Tucker had a special edition of his PBS show last night. On Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered he had an extended interview with Robert D. Kaplan, a regular contributor for The Atlantic Monthly, and they were talking about embedding reporters and whether or not it was a good idea.

Tucker did an actual interview where he asked salient questions (a rarity for him) and there were things I agreed with and disagreed with. I think a global media with no national attachment is agood thing, but I also think he was right when he said that politicians sometimes have to make deals with countries that otherwise have poor human rights records and are considered disdainful. Kaplan gave Uzbekistan as an example and Tucker followed with Pakistan when they were discussing the war with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Kaplan said that more progress was being made in the area of human rights under General Musharraf than under the democratically elected regime he overthrew. I don't know how right he is, and I think history shows we get problems later down the line by supporting military dictators (Saudi Arabia, Nicaragua, etc.)

But they both agreed on this one bit that I just have to quote:


Kaplan: Last week, Rumsfeld gave an interview to Bill O'Reilly which was very revealing. He was asked about, didn't you think of an insurgency, didn't you think this was going to happen. He said, we thought about a lot of thing, chemical attack, refugee migration, all the things he said he worried about were things that could go wrong in the invasion, not what would go wrong after the invasion. After the invasion, there's only two things that can go wrong, chaos and insurgency. Everything else, bringing in electricity, water, police, are all designed to prevent those two things. So if you're going to invade a country, and then not prepare for insurgency or chaos afterwards, you haven't done your planning. Because they did not do their planning, you know, they're left a year, 18 months later with 150,000 troops, and then everything else is shortchanged. There's not enough steel for the uparmored Humvees, not enough glass, you know, all kinds of shortages because none of this, they didn't expect to need 150,000 troops 18 months later in the first place.

So, that begs the question, why is Donald Rumsfeld still Sec. of Defense? I can't understand it, and frankly, I don't think anyone else on this planet does, either.

If it's something that Bush thinks will show that he thinks he made a mistake in invading Iraq, I think the cat's already out of the bag on that. Everyone knows it was either a mistake to invade in the first place or that the invasion was the right idea at the right time, carried out by the wrong people. If you were pro-invasion, you probably don't think the occupation has been handled too well. If you were anti-war (like me) you probably have said to yourself, "well, they did it anyway. I just hope this all works out and they achieve something." You decided to root for the plan, only to find out there was no plan.

Yet no Republican is really calling for Rumsfeld's resignation... except John McCain. And he's only said he has no confidence in him. WTF?

I'd have to say Tucker wasn't a big dick this week, so I guess that makes him a little dick, which gives us something to talk about until next week.

This is a guest post from Nate Nance. Nate is a sports/news clerk at the Waco Tribune-Herald and writer/editor of Common Sense (which hasn't been updated in days) a Texas-based Democratic Web log. He can be reached at nate_nance@yahoo.com

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Posted by: Ron at December 11, 2004 07:38 PM

Tucker's PBS Show is actually quite good. From what I have seen of it, he has the approach of a moderate Republican who askes some serious questions, and treats his guests with respect. He does not have the need to do what Crossfire does and turn the political debate into a theater production/three-ring-circus. I think he understands his audience--PBS caters mainly to liberals and moderates--and he works within the parameters of pleasing the audience, but at the same time, putting across his opinions in a respectful way. Tucker Carlson has been a critic of Bush, a critic about how the media covers stories, and although I normally do not agree with him, I do respect that he tends to think outside the box regarding part politics and Big Media. On Crossfire, Carlson is a "dick" and part of the problem; however, I really like the Tucker Carlson on PBS a lot better. I will most likely join you in blogging about Tucker Carlson--I wanted to when I first saw his show. :)

Posted by: Andrea M. at December 11, 2004 08:33 PM

I agree that I think he is a moderate Republican on his PBS show, whether that is because he is more free to be himself or becausehe is pandering to an audience for more ratings, I don't really know.

I do have some problems with the show itself. He seems to like to get the same three people for his Plus 2 segment and they are almost always conservative. I do like it when he brings up a really pointless question and his two guests disagree with him then go back to the point they were making earlier.

I started blogging about Tucker when a co-worker of mine told me I could be the liberal Tucker Carlson. I took it as an insult and I just started blogging about what a dick he is. Especially the "jacuzzi lawsuit" case he like to talk about when discussing trial lawyers and John Edwards. I don't do it as much as I used to because he does mellow a little when I watch him on PBS and I've more or less given up on watching Crossfire. But when I find something, I try to be merciless.

Posted by: Nate at December 11, 2004 08:54 PM

Crazy, you know I've actually met Tucker? At the Democratic National Convention this summer. Here is proof, yay for pictures.

Posted by: Karl-T at December 11, 2004 10:08 PM

Tucker Carlson doesn't call himself a Republican. He calls himself a conservative, an independent movement conservative. As a result, he feels free to bash the GOP from time to time and is among the more honest conservative commentators out there. He was an early McCain supporter and made Bush look bad in an interview for Talk Magazine (where Bush joked around, pretending to be Karla Faye Tucker crying for her life). He also said he probably wouldn't vote for Bush this year, leaving his ballot for president blank.

And I agree- Rummy should go. I support the war and I like a lot of the people liberals hate (I really like Wolfowitz... really), but Rumsfeld has had a lot of fouled up stuff go down on his watch- Abu Ghraib, the Humvees, not enough troops, etc. So I think we need a new SecDef. Some have rumored Lieberman's name, but I think he needs to keep his Dem creds so he can fight the fight for our party. Wolfowitz is not savvy enough to put on a good public face (though he has the brains to do the job). What I kinda would like to see, but doubt it will happen, would be for Cheney to become SecDef and for McCain to be nominated for VP and be selected as Bush's successor. I don't know if I would vote for him or not (just about the only GOP prospect for 2008 I can safely say that about), but I wouldn't tremble for my country at the thought of him being president.

Not likely to happen, but a boy can dream...

Posted by: Andrew D at December 11, 2004 11:22 PM

Tucker was at the Dean party on the night of the Iowa Caucus, and he had some kind words for us, which has led me to believe he is pretty moderate, and a nice guy as a person. I may have just seen a good episode of his show, as he had Democrats on, and asked some damn good questions--hard, but fair.

Posted by: Andrea M. at December 12, 2004 12:45 PM

Hey, those bow ties are hard to tie!

Posted by: melior at December 12, 2004 01:46 PM
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