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Speaker's Race: Not Craddick - 74, Craddick Ceiling - 63


by: Phillip Martin, Progress Texas

Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 07:45 AM CST


Ed. Note: The following 2,200+ word post took tremendous research & time to write. Please take the time to read it carefully. -- KT & Matt
Using fact-based reporting and research, we can document that there are at least 74 opponents to Speaker Craddick, that his absolute ceiling of support is 63, and that there are at least 13 "toss-up" Members who have refused to commit to anyone so far.
Tom Craddick is John McCain at this point. Barring a miracle, the math is absolutely there for change.
 
Right now, we're just waiting to see who will bring change. 

I've researched news stories on all 150 Members of the Texas House, looked at last year's Speaker's vote, re-watched the Haggerty walk-off, and studied the primary and general election results from 2008. It's amazing how original research can crystallize the picture:

  • There are 74 "public" opponents of Craddick.
  • There are 63 "public" supporters of Craddick -- this is his ceiling.
  • There are 13 "public" toss-up Members who are undecided.
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Executive Summary
 
We have reached the tipping point for the end of Tom Craddick's reign as Speaker. All we're waiting for is the last brave group of Members to declare they won't support him, and we can officially move on to determining who should be next in line.
 
Based entirely on public statements and the latest public records, Tom Craddick would have to secure every single past supporter that hasn't abandoned him yet (his 63-person ceiling) and convert every single undeclared Member to his side in order for him to retain his Speakership.
 
Given that reality, Rep. Jim Dunnam's statement last week seems pretty accurate:
"Stick a fork in Tom Craddick. It's over." Rep. Jim Dunnam, 11/5/08. (Source)
Here's why Tom Craddick's reign as Speaker is over:
  1. The numbers just aren't there. As I'll detail below -- complete with sources and everything -- there are 74 public opponents to Tom Craddick. Additionally, there are at least 13 publicly "toss-up" Members that have not declared whether they support Craddick or not, though most have indicated they do not want a return of Tom Craddick's style of leadership.

    That means there is an easy path to 80 (if you evenly split the "toss-up" Members) for no support of Craddick.

  2. The likelihood that Speaker Craddick would retain all 63 "public" supporters is ridiculous. Because there is no recent "public" information on who those 63 Members may or may not support, I give them all to Speaker Craddick. But doing so is extremely generous -- it is much, much more likely that he has only 1/2 or, at best, 2/3 of that support.

    Many of our readers -- both Democrat and Republican elected officials, as well as lobbyists and consultants -- can look through that list of 63 and see several names you don't believe will support Craddick again, or are on the fence and are just waiting on the next 1-2 Members to publicly declare they won't support Craddick.

  3. The momentum just isn't there. Speaker Craddick created a false sense of "momentum" with the official tally of the HD 105 race with Rep. Linda Harper Brown. Keeping that race in his column changed nothing; all it did was make it much more likely that a Democrat would not be elected Speaker. But Craddick himself is just as likely to not be re-elected today as he was one week ago -- when we learned that, under his reign as Speaker, Republicans lost another net of 3 seats.
It is time for Democrats and Republicans to elect a new Speaker. It must be one who embraces the idea that the status quo must change, that all Members are equal, that what happened in the past is the past, and that Members should be allowed to vote for the important issues that matter to their districts.
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Why Public Sources Matter
 
A brief note as to why I use public sources: because I believe in responsible journalism.
 
I know that may shatter some of your perceptions of bloggers, but I absolutely believe in responsible journalism. I am angered when I read news analysis that fails to do any research -- primarily because it leads to false stories like this one:
Legislative win gives House edge to GOP, Craddick
 
With a crowded field of candidates and no clear alternative to Republican House Speaker Tom Craddick, the narrow 76-74 majority appears to give momentum back to Craddick in the volatile speaker's race — and all but guarantees the next speaker will not be a Democrat.  -- Associated Press (Source)
There's no momentum for Craddick. It's just that everyone in the press is listening to arguments/rumors from the people who are spinning them, and no one is willing to do the required leg work and research.
 
Well, I did it. Here's how I came to my totals:
  1. Started with the 80-68 split on the Geren amendment
  2. Adjusted totals based on public statements in May 2007
  3. Adjusted totals based on the "Haggerty walk-off roll call" vote
  4. Adjusted totals based on the primary election results and candidates' stated support
  5. Adjusted totals based on the general election results and candidates' stated support
  6. Finally, I researched quotes in recent news stories, and tallied
I've given you the "top-line" numbers. If you want to see the list of names, click "There's More" to read below the fold:
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The 74 Craddick Opponents

This is pretty easy. From the latest Monday Morning Memo of the Texas House Democratic Caucus:

64 - that's the D number for anyone wanting to know. It's not a huge secret; there are 64 in hand. All rumors to the contrary and simply unfounded. Our unity is something to take pride in, making us the largest bloc in the House.

Last week, we know that 68 House Democrats met in their caucus meeting. 64 of them -- as that Memo says -- signed pledge cards to not support Tom Craddick. I'd like to point out that those 64 pledge opponents are more than the ceiling of 63 Craddick supporters I outline below.

That memo from the Democratic House Caucus is sufficient documentation to say there are 64 House Democrats opposed to Craddick as Speaker. I can "document" all but 2 of those 64:

 48 Democrats Remain from Last Session That Voted Against Craddick
Allen, Alma AFarias, JoeHopson, Chuck
Pickett, Joe
Alonzo, RobertoFarrar, Jessica CristinaHoward, Donna
Pierson, Paula
Anchia, RafaelFrost, StephenLeibowitz, David
Quintanilla, Chente
Bolton, ValindaGallego, PeteMallory Caraway, Barbara
Raymond, Richard
Burnam, LonGonzales, VeronicaMartinez Fischer, Trey
Ritter, Allan
Castro, JoaquinGonzalez Toureilles, YvonneMartinez, Armando 
Rodriguez, Eddie

Cohen, Ellen

Heflin, JoeMcReynolds, Jim
Strama, Mark
Coleman, Garnet F.Hernandez, Ana E.Menendez, Jose
Thompson, Senfronia
Davis, YvonneHerrero, AbelNaishtat, Elliott
Vaught, Allen
Dunnam, JimHochberg, ScottOliveira, Rene
Veasey, Marc
Eiland, Craig

Hodge, Terri

Olivo, Dora
Villarreal, Mike
Farabee, David

Homer, Mark

Ortiz, Solomon Jr.
Vo, Hubert

We then have those that "flipped" by the end of session:

  • Rep. Norma Chavez (#49) - Source
  • Rep. Joe Deshotel (#50) - Source
  • Rep. Eddie Lucio III (#51) - Source
  • Rep. Patrick Rose (#52) - Source

We then had Republican Rep. Kirk England switch parties (#53) because of Craddick's leadership:

"After one session in the House, I found that the Republican leadership in Austin had no tolerance for the values and priorities of the folks I represent," England said in a statement released Wednesday. "That is why [Thursday] at 10 a.m., I will announce my intention to seek re-election to the Texas House as a Democrat."

There was then those Democrats who won in the primary -- either seats held by Craddick opponents, or defeating Craddick opponents:

  • Rep.-elect Carol Alvarado (#54) - replaced Rep. Rick Noriega (D)
  • Rep.-elect Roland Gutierrez (#55) - replaced Craddick supporter Rep. Robert Puente (D), who retired
  • Rep.-elect Armando Walle (#56) - replaced Craddick supporter Rep. Kevin Bailey (D)

We then have 6 new Democrats elected in the general election:

  • Rep.-elect Carol Kent (#57) replaced Craddick supporter Rep. Tony Goolsby (R)
  • Rep.-elect Kristi Thibaut (#58) replaced Craddick supporter Rep. Jim Murphy (R)
  • Rep.-elect Chris Turner (#59) replaced Craddick supporter Rep. Bill Zedler (R)
  • Rep.-elect Diana Maldonado (#60) replaced Craddick opponent Rep. Mike Krusee (R)
  • Rep.-elect Robert Miklos (#61) replaced Craddick opponent Rep. Thomas Latham (R)
  • Rep.-elect Joe Moody (#62) replaced Craddick opponent Rep. Pat Haggerty (R)

I can't source the final two Democrats, but it is public knowledge that there are 2 more Democrats that have signed a pledge card to not elect Craddick again. My best guess is that Rep.-elect Marissa Marquez (#63), who has never spoken well of Craddick, and Rep. Tracy King (#64), who attended a TexBlog PAC event, are the other two.

Quick Update: In today's Statesman, King says he is uncommitted. That still doesn't change the 64 pledged for Democrats...but documentation is documentation.

The other big block is the 10 "Anyone but Craddick" (ABC) Republicans:

  Republican Source
#65 Rep. Byron Cook
 Personal Privilege Speech
#66 Rep. Gary Elkins
Vote on Geren Amendment
#67 Rep. Charlie Geren
FW Star Telegram, 11/6/08
#68
 Rep. Delwin Jones
Filed for Speaker
#69
Rep. Jim Keffer
Filed for Speaker
#70
 Rep. Edward Kuempel
Vote on Geren Amendment
#71
Rep. Brian McCall
Vote on Geren Amendment
#72
Rep. Tommy Merritt
Filed for Speaker
#73
 Rep. Jim Pitts
Vote on Geren Amendment
#74
Rep. Joe Strauss

Vote on Geren Amendment;
SA Express-News, 11/7/08

That's 74 public opponents of Tom Craddick; and none of those are flipping.

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The 13 "Toss-Ups"

Now we must look at the 13 Members -- Democrats and Republicans -- that have not publicly indicated their support or oppopsition to Speaker Craddick. I will also comment briefly on each one:

  RepresentativeSource
 Comment
#1
Rep. Dawnna Dukes (D)
Statesman EditorialRep. Dukes doesn't want to lose her Chair position; every challenger to Craddick is promising to restore seniority to the Appropriations Committee, so she and Rep. Dutton would actually keep their seats
#2 Rep. Harold Dutton (D)
StatesmanNot committed, though said he "might support Craddick" since it may be the easiest way for Democrats to regain control of the House
#3 Rep.-elect Allen Fletcher (R)
 Burka Post
Fletcher defeated Craddick supporter Van Arsdale in the primary, and has publicly aligned himself with anti-Craddick positions; supported by Dan Patrick, would probably support a strong conservative

#4

 Rep. Helen Giddings (D)
DMN Blog Post
DMN post states that she's meeting with Democrat leaders about who to support for Speaker; definitely still up in the air
#5
Rep. Ryan Guillen (D)
 DMN story
Stated he is undecided; had major headaches having to vote with Craddick on Appropriations last session (Source)
#6
Rep. Mike Hamilton (R)
Houston Chronicle
Stated he is "undecided" on 11/11/08
#7
 Rep. Patricia Harless (R)
 H. Chron;
R Blog
"Refuses to discuss the Speaker's race with anyone" though she had rescinded her pledge to Craddick two years ago when she thought he wouldn't win
#8
 Rep. Ruth McClendon (D)
S.A. Express-News
 Indicated she would support a Democrat if there is a Democrat majority; at least has considered other potential candidates
#9
 Rep.-elect Doug Miller (R)
 New Braunfels
Refused to state publicly who he supported when he defeated staunch Craddick & Leininger Republican Nathan Macias in the primary
#10
 Rep. Aaron Pena (D)
Pena's Blog
Coy, as always, on his website; though he thought a new Speaker would be clear "within moments" of the polls closing, and he correctly predicted a +3 gain for Democrats
#11
 Rep. Burt Solomons (R)
 DMNAs House Rules Chairman, publicly disagreed with Speaker Craddick on his ruling on the House rules in May; cannot be counted by either side yet
#12 Rep. Sylvester Turner (D)
Ethics Commission
A delcared candidate for Speaker, wisely said, "its a sad dog that won't wag its own tail;" most powerful of the swing Democrats
#13
 Rep. Tara Rios Ybarra (D)
No DeclarationStrongly supported by Texans for Lawsuit Reform

Quick Update: In today's Statesman, King says he is uncommitted. That still doesn't change the 64 pledged for Democrats...but documentation is documentation. And that means that one of the Democrats above has signed the pledge of 64 to not support Craddick...so there are still 13 "toss-ups."

Remember -- every single one of these 13 "swing votes" would have to side with Speaker Craddick in order for him to be re-elected Speaker. If you think that is as unlikely as I do, then you understand how unlikely it is that Speaker Craddick will be re-elected.

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The 63 Craddick Supporters

Despite my best efforts, I do not have many connections inside the Republican caucus. There are many rumors, though, that Speaker Craddick has no more than 30-40 of these past supporters pledged to him.

I have no idea how many of these supporters are still supporters; feel free to leave tips in the comments, or e-mail me directly if you have any information. But at the utmost, best-case scenario for Speaker Craddick, this is his ceiling of support, and in any case, it's the most any responsible journalist could credit to Craddick:

Anderson, Doc
Crownover, Myra
Hunter, ToddPatrick, Diane
Aycock, Jimmie Don
Darby, Drew
Isett, Carl
Paxton, Ken
Berman, Leo
Davis, John
Jackson, Jim
Phillips, Larry
Bohac, Dwayne
Driver, Joe
King, Phil
Riddle, Debbie
Bonnen, Dennis
Edwards, Al (D)
King, Susan
Sheffield, Ralph
Branch, Dan
Eissler, Rob
Kleinschmidt, Tim
Shelton, Mark
Brown, Betty
Flores, Kino (D)
Kolkhorst, Lois
Smith, Todd
Brown, Fred
Flynn, Dan
Laubenberg, Jodie
Smith, Wayne
Button, Angie Chen
Gattis, Dan
Legler, Ken
Smithee, John
Callegari, Bill
Hancock, Kelly
Lewis, Tryon
Swinford, David
Chisum, Warren
Hardcastle, Rick
Madden, Jerry Taylor, Larry
Christian, Wayne
Harper-Brown, Linda
Miller, Sid
Truitt, Vicki
Corte Jr., Frank Hartnett, Will
Morrison, Geanie
Weber, Randy
Crabb, Joe
Hilderbran, Harvey
Orr, Rob
Woolley, Beverly
Craddick, Tom
Howard, Charlie
Otto, JohnZerwas, John
Creighton, Brandon
Hughes, Bryan
Parker, Tan
 

A few notes on all of these Members:

  • The ones in bold are the 13 that were announced in the latest Craddick supporter letter, plus Craddick.

  • Two Democrats are on this list: Rep. Kino Flores (source) & Rep. Al Edwards (source). Though Rep. Flores' recent trouble could force him to vacate his seat -- only time will tell.

  • Of all of these returning Members, only two have "switched" from opposing Craddick to now supporting Craddick: Rep. Bryan Hughes (source) and Rep. Todd Smith (source). Why is that important? Because in the 18 months since May 2007, Craddick has only brought two Republicans over to his side; how does anyone suspect he'll bring over every other "toss-up" and not lose any more supporters?

Those are the facts. Those are the numbers. I will update them going forward as we learn more information.

Please discuss in the comments.

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Outstanding coverage (2.00 / 1)
Simply outstanding analysis.  Nice work.

Best,
David


Outstanding (0.00 / 0)
Phenomenal reporting.  Great work, Phil.

Todd

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi


great breakdown (0.00 / 0)
prepare to have it copped by MSM.

i think we will be pleasantly surprised by kino and we should expect that reasonable repubs that can stand on their own two feet will ultimately reject craddick (fred brown, todd smith, kolkhorst, hilderbran).

really well put together post.

Please refer to KT's signature.


Good Research (0.00 / 0)

The beginning of session is going to be a rough and tumble week. I'm looking to see if a secret ballot succeeds this time around or if one is even needed.

From the toss ups, you can add Allen Fletcher to the supporters list. No public declaration, but from what I hear, he has already committed to Craddick.


Rule of the game... (0.00 / 0)
...is documentation. If I see it in print, I'll update it.

I wouldn't be too surprised if a freshman Republican declared for Craddick early. But I also think -- reading through Burka's post on Fletcher -- that Fletcher would support a new candidate for Speaker that was potentially more conservative.

Thanks for the heads up, though.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
Sorry... (0.00 / 0)
No documentation. Just word of mouth.

I agree that many of the Republicans would support another speaker candidate, especially if there is a secret ballot.  


[ Parent ]
the longer it goes, the longer Craddick toasts (0.00 / 0)
When an incumbent can't use the power of incumbency to get to 50%, in a campaign poll or a Speaker's race, the incumbent is in trouble. Don't know why the MSM doesn't get that. Good job, Phil.

Thank you Phillip for tha analysis (0.00 / 0)
Did you see where the Kino Flores investigation got expanded?

McAllen Monitor 11/10/08
Austin prosecutors probe slaying on Flores' ranch
The Travis County district attorney's office is reviewing more than just travel records in its ongoing criminal investigation into state Rep. Ismael "Kino" Flores.

Prosecutors have requested documents connected to the September slaying of a ranch hand on Flores' Mission property and federal agents have also taken an interest in the representative's past, authorities said Monday.

"(They) asked us if we would supply them all the reports and affidavits on the murder case," Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Treviño said. "We sent them what we had."

Interesting.


absolutely great coverage (0.00 / 0)
I wonder how often representatives look at this page.

I don't understand (0.00 / 0)
Using fact-based reporting

WTF is that?

This is the internet... facts only gum up the tubes!  Now let's get back to baseless speculation and ad hominem attacks.


Fantastic work! (0.00 / 0)
My own "rough count" (nothing detailed or sourced like your work here) had Craddick's ceiling at around 70.

I'm glad to see your thorough documentation of the fact that the ceiling is even lower than I had assumed.

Great work!


Excuse me professor, but I have a question (0.00 / 0)
Something is kinda bugging me. I mean I know my math and all, but if Craddick has around 63 solid supporters and the rest of the crowd is undecided...then how does that mean he's done for? Even if the dissenters hate Craddick, who's to say they won't hate the next challenger more and have to decide on the lesser of the two evils? Unless someone comes along that can rally all of the dissenters, how will he/she beat Craddick?  

for one thing (0.00 / 0)
I doubt there is a world or decision matrix in which Craddick is the lesser of two evils.

Please read the Community Guidelines and How to Rate Comments.

[ Parent ]
KT: To some people ... (0.00 / 0)
... choosing the greater evil is a "good" thing. Otherwise, how would you explain Phil Gramm?

"The eyes of the people are fast opening! Fight on!"--Andrew Jackson

[ Parent ]
Maybe you're right....but (0.00 / 0)
I suppose Karl, problem is...name me someone else who has 63 supporters? I sure haven't heard of anyone, although I suppose I could just be out of the loop. But I would've at least thought the article would read Craddick 63, (input random challenger here) 74. However, that's not what I read, so my question remains...who's gonna play the hero?

Well, that's the million dollar question (0.00 / 0)
If we had an answer for that, we wouldn't be here, would we?

Also, if you're reading this article and coming away believing Craddick has 63 supporters, then you are ignoring the headline ("ceiling") and pretty much the rest of the post. No one thinks Craddick actually has 63 right now. For some to say, "oh, Craddick has this locked up" is ridiculous.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


[ Parent ]
Finding an alternative (0.00 / 0)
It's still possible for Craddick to win if he can split the opposition, with some Democrats preferring Craddick to a right-wing alternative, and with some right-wingers preferring Craddick to a moderate Republican alternative (or even a Democrat). If the fight among would-be speakers gets nasty enough, you could see disgruntled losers returning to Craddick, and that would be the worst possible outcome.

To avoid that, we need to either settle on a Speaker early (almost certainly a Republican, as they still have a majority) or arrange for a secret ballot. If Jim Dunnam is smart, and you know he is, he's probably playing "let's make a deal", offering to deliver the Democratic bloc to any Republican who commits to making bipartisan committee chair assignments and respects members' prerogatives and expertise.


I'll take Craddick (0.00 / 0)
If my choice is only between Republicans, I'll take Craddick because he'll force his supporters to take bad votes and make it easier to get the members we need for a Democratic speaker in 2010.

BTW, Craddick is working harder than any of the other Speaker candidates.  He showed up at the Democratic fundraiser on Monday to press the flesh.  He's been calling members on your 74 Craddick opponents trying to sway their votes.

None of Craddick's opponents are matching his level of work.


no no no no no (5.00 / 1)
This whole argument that "it is good to have craddick because he'll force bad votes" is the wrong approach.

The only way you get "bad" votes is if bad bills pass and become bad laws that hurt Texas families. And, "no", it isn't worth it.  We'll get the bad guys casting bad votes no matter who sits in the chair.

Additionally, craddick has to work harder because he is losing ground everyday.

I would recommend to every Democrat to throw craddick out of any event he shows up to.

Lots of big issues to deal with and big decisions to make about our budget.  We literally can't afford to have another 2 years of craddick.

Please refer to KT's signature.


[ Parent ]
Great commentary (0.00 / 0)
More importantly for the rest of us, it's crucial for us to look up our representatives and see where they possibly stand regarding Phillip's analysis. From there we can encourage them to do the right thing if they are not solidly in the "against Craddick" camp.

It's high time to end the Craddick lock-up of the Texas House and get some real legislative action in Texas.


My response to these Numbers (0.00 / 0)
I've posted a response to this post (which does deserve credit for being well researched) over on my blog at www.TexianOnline.com

http://www.texianonline.com/20...

By my count Craddick's "ceiling" is 79 -- his likely votes are at least 68 -- and there is only a solid case for 71 opponents.


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