What To Do With the Other Clinton

Send him on a prolonged campaign tour... (5.00 / 2)

...in West Virginia, too. Let's see if he can work his magic there and in those places where "African American" still means "them people" in the minds of the electorate. If Bill can open Democrackers' eyes, he'll prove he's still got a little of the old Hope Magic left in him.

"I wonder now what Ernest Hemingway's dictionary looked like, since he got along so well with dinky words that everybody can spell and truly understand." -- Kurt Vonnegut

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by: Mack Simpson @ Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 12:42:54 PM UTC

This is an absurd (0.00 / 0)

comment.

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by: Elsbeth @ Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 03:31:27 AM UTC

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I fail to see your meaning (0.00 / 0)

But, whatever.

"I wonder now what Ernest Hemingway's dictionary looked like, since he got along so well with dinky words that everybody can spell and truly understand." -- Kurt Vonnegut

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by: Mack Simpson @ Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 23:06:02 PM UTC

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Why are you (0.00 / 0)

quoting politico.com as if it's a good source for unbiased reporting? Definite GOP slant, sir.

Oh, and setting up the whole critique of Bill Clinton by saying you are a member of the Clinton Foundation? Please.

This is called a concern diary. Once again, I'm not buying what you're trying so hard to sell.

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by: Elsbeth @ Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 03:48:56 AM UTC

I support Bill as an ex-president (0.00 / 0)

My statement about the Clinton Foundation was meant to demonstrate my support for his work as an ex-president. Dang, you try to read so much into a statement. When's the last time you actually followed or supported the work of the Carter Center or the Clinton Foundation?

Ex-presisdents can be great leaders long after they leave office. Bill and Jimmy have done great work on the international fronts and I applaud them.  I haven't seen the same for the Republican exes.  Granted Pres. Reagan was unable to due to Alzheimer's. I really don't expect to see anything like that from the current. In fact I'll be amazed if he ever gets off the ranch in Crawford.

Concern is that Bill as a surrogate is not the best thing to have as evidenced by Hillary's campaign. That story in politico.com was actually covered by a lot of news sources. It's a genuine concern these days. Bill has a temper (very well known fact) and it's kind of hard to control an ex-pres these days with fast media. Hillary is at least a little more reserved in her comments.

Bill's one line statement pretty much shows his position on this matter. He's not interested. Yes he can probably be coaxed into a surrogate support role but I think he's going to take offense at the control the campaign might impose on him.

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by: RBearSAT @ Sun Jun 29, 2008 at 17:42:00 PM UTC

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Surrogate support role? (0.00 / 0)

Yes he can probably be coaxed into a surrogate support role but I think he's going to take offense at the control the campaign might impose on him.

If you call an ex-President a surrogate or say that they are functioning in a support role, well then, any president would be "offended."

It's all in the presentation. Certainly, the way you have presented it will not work.  

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by: Elsbeth @ Sun Jun 29, 2008 at 19:15:32 PM UTC

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Anybody but the principal is a surrogate (5.00 / 1)

I hate to correct you on this but anyone who is representing the candidate is a surrogate. They are not the principal and can only act in support of the principal. So to be precise and accurate an ex-President IS a surrogate. I don't care what their over-inflated ego might be they are not the principal.

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by: RBearSAT @ Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 09:36:10 AM UTC

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I never said anything (0.00 / 0)

about being the "principal." Seems this word "surrogate" is everywhere lately. I guess it's an outgrowth of so many people speaking for candidates. But it has a really odd sound to it.

And don't "hate to correct me on this," because I really don't think you are correcting me on anything I actually stated.

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by: Elsbeth @ Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:54:18 AM UTC

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I think Bill'd be great in Texas too. (0.00 / 0)

   I say we set Hillary, Bill, Chelsea and hell even socks the cat out on an electoral "vision quest" - not to return until Obama's won in November. Furthermore, both Bill and Hillary would be excellent for use in defending Obama against GOP smears, they can kick the shit out of those Republican talking points allowing Barack to remain above the fray.
 AND, Chelsea can still bring in a hell of a lot of younger voters who by some phenomenon didn't go Obama, as well as Hispanic voters. She's quite a charismatic one that Chelsea.
 I'm not so much worried about "muzzling" Bill, I was always sort of puzzled and saddened by that line of thinking. The few gaffs he made during the primary were i think, specific to the dynamics of this primary - and don't represent a larger trend on the campaign trail.
 I understand that the Clintons need time to rest and recoup from the primary, I'm just curious how much time. We need them to work literally non-stop for Barack through Fall in order to implement the 50 state strategy in places like Texas and WV, hell even in Ohio.
 There is a bit of a lull right now so there's time, but after the convention, no more time. They'll either make good on their word or they won't. That'll define the Clinton legacy at this point, how hard they work for Barack.

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by: billydanielus @ Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 19:25:03 PM UTC