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CORRECTED: 2008 Austin City Council Poll Results


by: Karl-Thomas Musselman

Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 11:15 PM CDT


(Bumped. This came out last Friday afternoon so many of our weekday readers may have missed it.   - promoted by Karl-Thomas Musselman)

Earlier I promoted a post regarding some poll results in the Austin City Council races conducted by the Capital Area Asian American Democrats (consider making a donation to them to cover the cost of the poll like I did). I received word that the results were slightly off as they were the raw numbers prior to being weighted to the electorate.

I have posted the official poll results below. The changes are marginal but do reflect a lower level of undecided voters across the board and Robin Cravey swaps positions with Jennifer Gale in Place 4.

Here are the actual poll results.

IVR Polls surveyed 517 likely City Council voters on April 16.  The survey's margin of error is +/- 4.3%.

Place 1
Lee Leffingwell 37.5%
Jason Meeker    13.7%
Allen Demling    3.9%
Undecided       44.9%

Place 3
Randi Shade     26.4%
Jennifer Kim    24.9%
Ken Weiss       11.3%
Undecided       37.4%

Place 4
Cid Galindo     11.9%
Laura Morrison  10.3%
Robin Cravey    10.2%
Jennifer Gale    8.0%
Ken Vasseau      4.8%
Sam Osemene      4.8%
Undecided       50.0%

We don't usually have an opportunity to see a poll like this so what does it tell us?  First off, according to the pollster, these respondents are those who self-identified themselves as planning to vote in the city elections, so the undecideds, while high, are not inflated by unlikely voters.

That said- it's clear that these races are very fluid and voter contact via TV, Radio, and Mail will play a large role in the next 3 weeks.

In Place 1, Leffingwell clearly has an established lead with Meeker having to work to get beyond his base if he's to have any chance. This concurs with the wideheld assumption that Leffingwell is headed to victory without a runoff.

In Place 3, a statistical tie exists and while always predicted to be a hard fought race, I wouldn't have guessed that Shade would have had this level of support prior to entering the paid media phase of the campaign (which against an incumbent is a place she's probably happy to be in). Still, it's anyone game, but unless Kim or Shade is able to boost their margins, they'll be going head to head until the June runoff and a long campaign and smaller electorate could shift the electoral dynamics.

In Place 4, it is clear that the lack of an incumbent has the race wide open for whom is going to face off in a June runoff. Morrison, having won the lion's share of endorsements and some of the city's better consultants, does not have the poll numbers to back up what many had perceived to be frontrunner status. There is a clear separation of the field in this place with Gale providing the dividing line of those who are contenders and those who are not; Gale, of course, being in a class of her own.

Also, people may have underestimated the power that a Hispanic surname has, even in city elections (note- he has done some tv already). Combine that with a candidate likely to pick up the moderate to center-right city voters, and we may be dealing with a battle between Morrison and Cravey for which progressive will get to take on Cid Galindo in a runoff. Still, the race has the most undecided voters and is wide open so there is a reasonable chance that we get a Morrison-Cravey runoff that makes Austin lefties a little less anxious.

Share your own thoughts in the comments. The poll script is in the extended entry.  

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Here's the call script.  The order of candidates was rotated for different calls to reduce any "first-name" bias issues.


IVR Polls is conducting a two minute survey of Austin political views.  If you are a registered voter, please press 1 on your phone now.

Do you plan to vote in the city council elections on May tenth?
If you plan to vote in the election, press 1
If you do not plan to vote, press 2
If you are undecided, press 3

The candidates for city council place 1 are Lee Leffingwell, Jason Meeker and Allen Demling.
If you will vote for Lee Leffingwell, press 1
If you will vote for Jason Meeker, press 2
If you will vote for Allen Deming, press 3
If you are undecided, press 4

The candidates for city council place 3 are Jennifer Kim, Randi Shade and Ken Weiss.

If you will vote for Jennifer Kim, press 1
If you will vote for Randi Shade, press 2
If you will vote for Ken Weiss, press 3
If you are undecided, press 4

The candidates for city council place 4 are Robin Cravey, Jennifer Gale, Cid Galindo, Laura Morrison, Sam Osemene and Ken Vasseau.
If you will vote for Robin Cravey, press 1
If you will vote for Jennifer Gale, press 2
If you will vote for Cid Galindo, press 3
If you will vote for Laura Morrison, press 4
If you will vote for Sam Osemene, press 5
If you will vote for Ken Vasseau, press 6
If you are undecided, press 7

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It's not polls that count (0.00 / 0)

It's not the poll's like this one that counts. It is the actuall votes the candidates get on early voting days and election day. Polls only try to predict what is going to happen in each race and this poll does not give any clear answer to who is going to end up winning any of the three places up for grabs.

No one candidate in all these races has even close enough to win the election right out!

The undecide votes still could go to any candidate!

Good luck to all the candidates and may the best person for the job win each of the three places up for grabs!

Ken Weiss has my vote! The other candidates in place 1 and Place 4 will have to work hard to earn my vote!

Thanks to all the candidates for running for City Council and I wish you all the best of luck!


I'm not sure (2.00 / 1)
you can attribute Galindo's slight lead just to a Hispanic last name.  He has been on tv for a couple of weeks.  

I'd expect the newspaper endorsements to have a big impact on the undecideds, particularly the Chronicle if you get any type of Obama echo effect on turnout (which I'm skeptical about, but you never know).  


fair point on the TV (3.00 / 1)
I'm not sure how much the buy is- no where near the Lehmberg/Montford levels.

I doubt we'll see any echo effect from the Obama/Clinton primary- It wasn't evident in the primary runoff and that's at least partisan.

My bet is this city election is the same old crowd as usual. They are about as predictable as student government elections.  

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hah :) (0.00 / 0)
although I do think that the electorate has been trending towards the center the last few years due to suburban annexation and "immigration".

[ Parent ]
oh (0.00 / 0)
and I forgot the issue of virtual defacto near (enough qualifiers there?) disenfranchisement of UT students due to the election date change.

[ Parent ]
Did UT students ever vote in large numbers in city elections? (0.00 / 0)
I don't remember ever hearing so.

[ Parent ]
1975, most likely was the best effort and turnout (0.00 / 0)
Check the voting returns for neighborhoods near the campus and off Riverside Drive. 1975 was the the last city council campaign for SAC-YD or 1st year of the Austin Progressive Coalition. The Student Action Committee, University Young Democrats, and Travis County Young Democrats comprised the SAC-YD forerunner of APC. SAC and Travis County Young Democrats became the Central Austin Democrats. The University Young Democrats became the University Democrats.  

The student, minority, labor, and neighborhood coalition won five out of seven that year. Needless to say, all seven council members are not up for election at the same time anymore. Instead of two year terms, we now have three year staggered terms, but no single member districts.


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not in huge numbers (0.00 / 0)
but enough that it was worthwhile for candidates to campaign on campus.  It still might be, if you target early early voting, but everybody's gone by election day.

[ Parent ]
Good news for Ms. Shade, I think... (0.00 / 0)
As I said on the previous post, this poll seems to be good news (even slightly better than before) for Ms. Shade.  With three weeks until Election Day, a well-known incumbent has 75% of respondents voting either for someone else or up in the air.  Should be interesting to watch...!

Randi has the momentum! (3.00 / 1)
Austin voters have had several years to get to know Jennifer Kim, and she still only has 24.9% support?  Considering Lee Leffingwell has been in office for the same amount of time as Kim, it's quite revealing to compare the two incumbent's respective levels of support.

No doubt, this poll shows that Randi Shade has the momentum.  She's built a strong grassroots following that has already vaulted her into a statistical tie with the incumbent, and Randi hasn't yet introduced herself to the broader voting public via mass communications.  Undecided voters usually break for the challenger, and as soon as Randi goes up on TV, she'll get her message out to even more people.

If Ken Weiss maintains that level of support, then this Place 3 race will likely go to a runoff.  Even though it's nearly impossible to beat an Austin City Council incumbent, it now looks like Randi could pull off the big upset.  Low-turnout runoff elections usually favor candidates with the larger grassroots following, and Randi's many years in public service have helped her develop a diverse and dedicated network of supporters who will most certainly come back to vote in the runoff.

Our fellow South Austin Democrats are invited to join us for a Randi Shade neighborhood block-walk on May 3.  We're providing the breakfast tacos, so click here to volunteer.  Randi won the official endorsement of South Austin Democrats, so let's go spread the word!  


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Ken Weiss Place 3 (2.00 / 1)


We Don't Need Another Jennifer Kim In Office!

Ken Weiss has more support than you think Ian! If you think she has the mometum over this one poll then you are dead wrong!

This is just one poll. In the RG4N Ken has 27% while Randi Shade only had 19% so yea, you bet there is going to be a run off between Randi Shade and Ken Weiss!

We don't need another Jennifer Kim in Austin City Council, saying one thing and then doing another!

Randi Shade couldn't commit to any issue because she is so afraid of ticking her supporters off like the developers of the domain, toll road supporters and attonery's, lawerys and many more. Randi states that she has supperorts from all different backgrounds but it you look these people up on her supporter list that is a crock! Randi stated that we need to connect the dots, if she is just now connecting the dots something is seriously wrong! Maybe I should get her one of those connect the dot books so that she can find out what shape Austin is in and do the right things for Austin!

Randi did not show up for the South West Democrats forum or the Liberian forum. So, if she is not showing up to these public forums then how is she ever going to be accessible to the public when in office?

weissforplace3.com

By: Daniella Sneal  


[ Parent ]
Lee doesn't have as strong a challenger... (0.00 / 0)
... and I certainly wouldn't call this momentum. As for grassroots, there are a lot of us who are supporting Kim.  

[ Parent ]
Place 1 (0.00 / 0)
I wish either Morrison or Galindo had run in Place 1 rather than Place 4.  Meeker is not gaining any momentum.

Also, Ken Weiss would have run stronger in Place 1 than he is doing in Place 3. At least South Austin would have a candidate in the Place 1 race rather than none, if Weiss had gone for Place 1.


[ Parent ]
Ken Weiss Place 3 (1.00 / 3)

Yes, there will be a run off between Ken Weiss and Randi Shade!

Polls don't mean a thing! All those people in the poll could well change there mind to vote for another candidate.
Not only that there is still a high % of people unsure of who they are going to vote for.

Ken Weiss is also getting voters who have not voted in the past to come out and vote!

So, the truth of the matter is - do you really want another Jennifer Kim screwing over the people of Austin?

weissforplace3.com

by: Daniella Sneal


[ Parent ]
stop spamming (0.00 / 0)
You're just gonna irritate folks. 3 comments in a row is not necessary.  

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[ Parent ]
I am not spamming (1.00 / 4)

The comments were replys to two different post.

I have every right to post as many times as I would just like the other people on this blog do.

Have you forgotten about our Constitutional Rights?

What are you against the Constitution?

By: Daniel Sneal


[ Parent ]
Community Guidelines (0.00 / 0)

The Community Guidelines state the following on spamming:

Users who are spaming the site with unrelated material or the like may be warned and/or banned.

In this case Gekco789 according to Community Guidelines is not spamming.



[ Parent ]
Spamming is also repetition (3.20 / 5)
The exact same nominally on-topic comment posted three times to the same article is spamming.

[ Parent ]
A few points (0.00 / 0)
These are previous city council voters who have said they plan to vote again, so yeah, the same old crowd.

Galindo does do best among Hispanic voters with 21% to Morrison's 16%. This subgroup is the only one where Gale has a significant lead over Cravey - 13% to 7%.

Texas Economics


Question about Runoff (0.00 / 0)
Hey, does anyone know how the runoffs work. I mean, does anyone not getting over 50% automatically trigger a runoff? You know, we really need to push for Instant Runoff Voting here in Travis County. Its when you rank your choices 1, 2, 3... and so on. It saves money and makes politicians outline specific positions and clarify their positions to appeal across ideological lines to win 2nds and 3rd votes from other types of voters. It saves time and money too! Australia does it on a national scale. Check it out.

Yes (0.00 / 0)
In races where no one receives 50%, the top two vote getters head to a June runoff.  

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