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Ray McMurrey on Immigration


by: Triangulation of Death

Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 05:42 PM CST


(If I understand Will's note -- and I think I do -- then the below post is from Ray McMurray's blog --- so the "I" used throughout is McMurray. Feel free to discuss in the comments below. - promoted by Phillip Martin)

(Since there has been a call for positive posts about Mr. McMurrey, I've decided to cross-post some of the policy papers/columns that we've already posted on our campaign blog. The one that follows can be found here. --William Pate)

The subject of immigration is hot in the 2008 election, but immigration in the Americas is older than the United States itself. We should keep the emotion over this issue in perspective by understanding that the entire history of the Americas has been one of mass human migration. Moreover, it should be understood that the truth needs to be told to the American public. It appears both parties have a tendency to shade the truth, and I believe there is confusion where there should not be.

To begin with, we must admit that regarding immigration there are really two issues:

1. What do we do with those here?
2. What do we do in the future to control the border?

Let me first say that I have some experience with this issue, and my life experiences prepare me to deal with immigration and border issues. After graduation from college, I did what LBJ did - taught public school in south Texas. I lived on the Texas-Mexico border in Eagle Pass for seven years. I taught in a Title 1 school and lived in a colonia. I also married a local girl who is the daughter of migrant farm workers. My wife was born in an Oregon migrant camp while her parents did seasonal agricultural work picking sugar beets. The year was 1965. And her father's parents had been coming to the U.S. prior to that. Given my history, I have a very good understanding of border life and the complexities of the immigration issue.

I think Democrats are reluctant to address this issue for fear of losing Latino votes. This is where my experience and leadership come into play. My family members are immigrants and my children Latino. I can speak honestly about these issues. Immigrants and Latino citizens are respectful of the laws and understand the need to control the borders, just like everyone else.

With regard to those that are now here, we must admit that we have failed to enforce the laws on the books regarding immigration. From properly funding the Border Patrol to cracking down on companies hiring illegal immigrants, we did not do our job. That is why it is frustrating to hear Republicans call immigrants "criminals." In fact, the real criminal behavior was for those in authority to not enforce the law so they could "sell out" to agribusiness and commercial farming interests by providing them the cheapest labor possible, mostly through the use of Latin American immigrants. Not to mention the direct effect that had on the ability of family farmers to compete in the marketplace, thus leading to the decline of family farms.

Those that are here came because we allowed them through our own intentional inaction. They sought a better life for themselves like all who come to this great nation. Their families are intertwined with this nation to such a degree that it would be inhumane to impose a forced removal where roots have been planted - doing so would result in another Trail of Tears. I favor a legal pathway to citizenship for those that are here, but automatic amnesty is not the solution. The pathway should come with a cost. But that cost should be fair and dignified.

In the future we should neutralize the term "illegal" by providing a legal and open immigration policy to this country for law-abiding people to live and work. Our Latino brothers and sisters to the south are our closest neighbors and deserve to have "favored nation" status when considering immigration quotas.

We need to create legal and favorable conditions with Latin American countries so law-abiding people can legally enter our nation under a taxpayer identification system so all workers are documented and paying taxes. Labor leaders need to be at the table to ensure the integrity of American jobs and economic opportunity for American workers.

There is a law enforcement and security issue to the border that is fundamentally different than 15 years ago. We must acknowledge that the drug trade and terrorism are real dangers that bolster the need to monitor our borders.

I believe that with current security issues, this nation does have a responsibility to know who is entering and exiting the nation, as does any sovereign nation. I also believe it is appropriate to substantially increase the funding and salaries for our Border Patrol so they may really do the job we ask them to do. Rather than funds being spent building a wall, we should invest in our immigration enforcement agencies.

The major component of this debate is that Americans believe their government is willing and able to protect American security, American labor and American justice. Republicans are wrong to attack immigrants as criminals while they turn a blind eye and do not enforce the laws on the books, selling out to commercial agribusiness. The real crime is the failure of the American government to secure the border.

In closing, while we do have problems dealing with immigration, my overall faith in the strength of diversity is strong and I believe in the end we will be a stronger and more competent nation. We can do better, and I am ready to provide leadership on this issue as your next U.S. Senator.

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Yes (0.00 / 0)
Noriega would be a fool to debate McMurrey. Or at least he would look like one by the time the debate was over.  

You are correct in that assumption, Phillip. (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for the promotion.

--WP


The underlying reasons (2.00 / 3)
Let us not forget the two underlying reasons for the undocumented immigrant population: 1, NAFTA. 2, Increased border enforcement.
NAFTA has had both positive and negative effects for Mexico. The Mexican middle class greatly profited from NAFTA; their businesses increased trade and the supermarket had far more variety and quality products they could enjoy from the US. The traditional, sustenance farmer was run out business and had no where else to go but North.
Secondly, in the years before Reagan, our nation enjoyed the profits from free-flowing migrant workers. These workers would work the land, pick the harvest, return home, and do it all over the following season. However, once border enforcement tightened, if workers crossed over once they could not count on the fact that they would enter the following year so they had no choice but to stay and bring their families.
The mainstream media won't tell you this, they'll just portray them as job-stealing criminals--nothing could be farther from the truth.

In Addition (0.00 / 0)
Up to this point we agree:

"if workers crossed over once they could not count on the fact that they would enter the following year so they had no choice but to stay and bring their families."

Of course they have a choice and it is certainly not to bring their families. These are folks that need work and to take care of their famalies. No blame attaches to any of these folks. I'd be surprised if any of us faced with the same choices would do anything else. Along with the workers came criminals, lazy spongers that work the system, etc. The normal bunch that shows up with any group.

We carry the reponsibility for allowing business and ethnic interest groups and politicians to bypass our laws to serve their own interests. We also carry the responsibility for the unemployed here that many of these folks have taken. And yes, by any fair measure, of course they are taking jobs from Americans. The LaRaza types would heve you believe that no American lost a job and every one here is just a "hard working family man" The Far Right and immigration restrictionists would tell you that every job they have taken put an American out of work and they are stealing and raping up and down every street.

The truth of course lies somewhere around the center of the discussion.  

I would suggest we have to do the right thing, find the civic and moral courage to stop illegal immigration and return most of the illegal residents to their home countries.

Each of these illegal residents cost us a bit over $2000 per year over and above any taxes or any other benefit they produce. The truth is we really can't afford subsidize business any longer and I for one don't want to.

In the end most of the asrguments for amnesty and allowing these illegals to stay here is always based on whats best for them. I would suggset that reality is here and we are going to have to decide this on the basis of whats best for Americans and America.

Last...politically, the majority of our party by all empirical measurements oppose illegal immigration and a blanket amnesty. Its almost a per centage reflection of the country as a whole.

So what do we do?  


[ Parent ]
McMurray is incredibly..... (2.33 / 3)
Shallow. The only people who will vote for him is the incredibly ignorant.

Seriously folks. This guy should be running for school board, not for the United States Senate.

He is like a drained pool. No depth.


He may be too plain and honest for some (2.33 / 3)

McMurrey sounds like someone who thinks he can get elected by being honest with voters about his feelings and what he thinks even on the most controversial issues.  Is that shallow?

His comments show a commitment to honesty that would help our Democratic Party very much.  

I haven't decided how to vote in this race, unlike some of the BOR folks who are paid by the Noriega campaign.


just curious (2.00 / 1)
"some" of the folks are paid.  how many is that exactly?

At any rate, I'll give him credit for putting his life on hold for a couple months to campaign.  Unlike his two vocal supporters on this site, if he manages to not burn any bridges he could be a good candidate down the road for something like State Board of Education.  Heck, if he wanted to move further inland, I wouldn't mind seeing him take on Geanie Morrison.  Moody pulled 42.7% in 06, maybe by 2010 that district could be more ripe for the picking.  Someone with a background in higher ed and public ed could school her simply for the fact that she's responsible for skyrocketing college tuition.

Regardless, I'm glad to see a McMurrey post that is about something more substantive than midnight conjecture about the staff of the Noriega campaign.

Good post.


[ Parent ]
kt has been (0.00 / 0)
extremely open about his employment with the campaign. as for the rest of the writers, like most Texas Democrats, they support Rick Noriega. There is no conspiracy at work here. Just a superior candidate.

[ Parent ]
huh? (2.67 / 6)
I haven't decided how to vote in this race, unlike some of the BOR folks who are paid by the Noriega campaign.

Are you implying that my support for Noriega is bought? Please tell us Bill. I'd really like to know if you really think that. Do you feel that way about all campaign staff on all campaigns? That's pretty offensive if you do and a discredit to every person working hard to elect Democrats in this state.  

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[ Parent ]
wow (0.00 / 0)
That's a lot of 3's. Stop abusing the ratings! lol

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[ Parent ]
No Karl (0.00 / 0)

I implied no such thing, especially not about you personally.    Like lots of others, I respect and appreciate what you've done with this site.

I believe that those who post here and are paid staff for the candidate that they're extolling ought to say so.  How the heck is that offensive?  Seems just honest, don't you think?  

You blew up a bit more at me than seems justified.

By the way, you might re-read your recent post, "A Note About the Site," especially this part:

"Most front page writers have an opinion on the news and in electoral races. In 98% of those cases, they are opinions in races in which they are not involved paid capacity. In those cases where a writer is working on a campaign, we have always requested that be disclosed, both in writing to this community, on our site's bio page, and on their personal profile."

With respect, Bill Aleshire (a friend of and unpaid Treasurer for Nelda Wells Spears)


[ Parent ]
It is (0.00 / 0)
Thank you for your reply Bill!

I'd like to point out that it is disclosed, both multiple times in front page writings, on my personal profile which is linked from every comment and post I make, and in the Who We Are link which is located in the most prominent spot on the site under our logo.

And of course, continually pointed out in near every comment thread on this site, so I think my working for Noriega has received pretty high saturation (certainly in comparison to any of the other candidates for whom Matt, Todd, or the rest have disclosed they may be helping or working for).

:)

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[ Parent ]
On Point (0.00 / 0)
I am surprised to see the comments on Mr. McMurrey's posted comments. Only one comment thats on topic by Atrac. I intend to post a differnt view as I feel there might be a few more reasons and I certainly disagree with many of Mr. McMurray's points.

No discussion of what he says or his position on the posted topic. No comment of agreement or disagreement with his position by any others. Just some general talk.

I personally would haver been interested to see how or if Noreiga differs from McMurrey's position. Perhaps some staff here know?

This is an issue that will cause a lot of pain in 08 unless we get a better handle on it.


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