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Forty years ago...


by: Robin Cravey

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:33 PM CST


(This is a great post that we are happy to promote (it doesn't even come off as a candidate post). That's in stark contrast to say, Nelda Spears using the MLK, Jr. holiday as an excuse for an email fundraising solicitation. Tacky.   - promoted by BOR)

I turned seventeen in 1968.  I was a junior in high school.  And I was at a new high school, in a new neighborhood, because my old neighborhood had been integrated.

It may seem indelicate for me to say that, but it's important to remember the turmoil of those times.   My family had lived in northeast Houston all my school life, but then in 66 or 67 black people started moving into the neighborhood. There were kids I had known all my life who started going out at night in gangs, looking for black kids to beat up.  I was disgusted with them.  And one night when I was walking down a neighborhood street, a gang of black kids jumped out of the back of a pickup and beat me up.  I was disgusted with them, too.  Some black kids harassed my sister.  My parents were scared, and they moved us to southwest Houston.

So I was at a new school, M.B. Lamar.  I was a working class kid going to school with the River Oaks kids, some of the most privileged kids in Texas.  I didn't fit in very well.

Even so, I had hope.  Our country was changing.  It was changing in blood and flame, but it was changing.  We were going to eliminate racism and poverty.  Then the irrational spoke.

The irrational had spoken before, in Dallas in 1963.  In November 1963, I was a Boy Scout, one of a handful chosen to be part of the honor guard for President John Kennedy on his visit to Houston.  Something came up, and President Kennedy couldn't come, but Mayor Cutrer was there.  The next day the President was struck down.  But Lyndon Johnson became president, and he went to work to eliminate racism and poverty.  But for some reason, people rioted anyway.  And then the war in Vietnam swallowed everything else.

But in 1968 there was new hope.  Martin Luther King was speaking out for justice, and Bobby Kennedy was speaking out for fairness, and Bobby was running for president.  Then the irrational spoke.

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It spoke first in Memphis.  Martin Luther King was struck down.  I couldn't believe it.  I was afraid, like everyone, of more blood and flames.  But Bobby Kennedy gave voice to reason and hope, and it seemed that we might be okay.

It spoke again in Los Angeles.  Bobby Kennedy was struck down.  And hope died.  Someone screamed, "They're killing everybody!"

Lyndon Johnson, when he passed the Civil Rights Act, commented that he was losing the South for the Democratic Party for a generation.  He was right.  In 1968, Republican Richard Nixon was elected president.  There was a bleak generation to come.

Some time in those bleak decades, I learned about Mohandas K. Gandhi-the Mahatma.  I learned about Satyagraha-holding fast to truth.  And I learned about where Martin Luther King had found his inspiration.

Two decades later, in 1988, a black man ran for the Democratic nomination for president.  I was a Jesse Jackson delegate to the state party convention.  And on the way to the national convention, Jackson found some of his greatest voting strength in the South.  But he didn't win the nomination, and the Democratic party didn't win the South.  Not even an Arkansas nominee or a Tennessee nominee could win the South.

Now it's four decades since the irrational spoke to Martin Luther King (and to Bobby Kennedy).  And again, after two decades, a black man is running for the Democratic nomination for President.  And he's talking about hope.  The world has changed a lot since 1968, and since 1988.  But there is a hope that was never fulfilled.  And it is being stirred again.

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Forty years ago... | 33 comments
Great post... (3.00 / 1)
but way to put a taint on it by calling out Nelda Spears prior to promoting it.  I suppose that Dan Grant's solicitation for funds on MLK day is somehow not tacky?  

MLK Day Resonates Around The World & Around the Corner

Guess I'm just confused as to why one person is getting called out and not another.

I'll await your condemnation/justification of Dan Grant having done the same thing.


That's tacky as well (5.00 / 1)
We were not aware of it at the time of the post (the email may not have been sent yet?).  

[ Parent ]
Define tacky. (3.00 / 1)
The exploitation of MLK Day has gone on since the creation of MLK Day (which is an exploitation in and of itself).  

The Obama campaign emailed out a copy of his speech at Dr. King's church along with an embedded video. Tacky?  Or just politics?  

Frankly, I don't think either of the candidates is "tacky" enough to be called out for exploiting MLK day.  I just hope that Robin Cravey was comfortable with you utilizing a very heartfelt post to symbolize one end of the tacky spectrum while simultaneously interjecting your own political viewpoints.

In my opinion, that is tacky.  


[ Parent ]
tacky. (1.00 / 1)
Defined: this comment thread.

LOL.  

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[ Parent ]
Non-transparency is the jumping-off point for tackiness. (2.50 / 2)
I'll take tackiness over non-transparency any day.  At least Spears is being relatively transparent.  Whoever promoted this post with the not-so-subtle dig at Nelda did not sign their name.  Presumably they don't want us to figure out whose team they're on in the race for tax assessor/collector.

The dig should be removed from the original promotion.  


[ Parent ]
you (5.00 / 1)
You might want to not talk about transparency when your name isn't signed to your comment or profile.

So the writers of bor don't support Nelda and her incompetent office. Big deal.

And learn how to take a joke.  


[ Parent ]
Transparency (0.00 / 0)
Sarah, if if you go to the blog linked in MeanRachel's profile you will not only learn her entire name, but more information about her personal life than you ever wanted to know. That's transparency.

[ Parent ]
Thanks, Jane (0.00 / 0)
I'm frankly just flattered someone wants to know my full name.


[ Parent ]
Please stop abusing the comment rating system Jane (2.00 / 2)
5's are not used to 'correct' the rating system. Please remove them. I do not wish to create comment retaliation on this blog. None of the comments in this thread are "Fabulous" and deserving of a 5.  

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Rating (0.00 / 0)
I don't seem how I'm retaliating, because I haven't given a low rating to anybody's comment. I think all the comments here are good. But I guess you know best...Please tell me what is an appropriate rating to give your comments. A 3? A 2? What rating do Phil's comments "deserve"? Matt's? Mean Rachel's?

In fact, why don't you go ahead and let me know what rating I should give everybody's comments.

This is absolutely silly.


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this is really our fault for not having a formal comment guidline (3.00 / 1)
5's are meant to denote really superior content or analysis. A 3 is usually acceptable to note something as being well said, a good point, or in some limited cases, needing to balance off another low rating (though 2's work just as well for that). Comments are meant to be used as an expression of the usefulness and work that went into the content of the comment, not as a statement of agreement or disagreement with the content.

We'll write something up and make that clearer, no biggie.  

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That's a fabulous idea... (0.00 / 0)
Er...I mean good idea:-) But really, that's a wonderful clarification that's helpful for users and I totally agree that the ratings should be used as an expression of the usefulness and thoughtfulness of the comment/analysis. KT, your comments are generally useful and thoughtful, so I rate them well, even though I sometimes disagree with them.

Still, I think words like "abuse" and "retaliation" were misdirected at me, when I haven't given any comments a poor rating. If anything, those words should be directed at people who use the ratings system to eliminate comments they disagree with. -Jane


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Back to the subject (4.50 / 4)
If I could just bring this back to the subject, I believe we have a duty to work against racism and against poverty.  Racism comes from a deep irrational place in the human spirit.  We have a responsibility to overcome the irrational.  We must do that for our nation to fulfill our hopes.  This is unfinished business of my generation.

Robin Cravey





Yes Robin I agree (0.00 / 0)
This is the unfinished business of our generation and we do have to continue to fight against both racism and poverty.

Very good job on the post.  I was very young during those turbulent times of the 60s and the assignations, but everyone could feel the fear - even the young.  Something was just wrong in the country.

I agree that today we are standing at a threshold of hope again. I would love to see this country get united and work together.  We have so many problems and so much talent in this country, that it makes sense to look forward.  Learn from your past and your mistakes, but work for a better future.  


[ Parent ]
Wait a Sec.. (4.00 / 2)
Why does this good post have to be led with an anonymous promotion note singling out Nelda Spears for something rather minor? It's not as if she's the only politician using MLK Day to raise money.

Dan Grant and others are doing the same thing:

http://www.dangrantforcongress...


I agree (0.00 / 0)
This was already raised in another comment that seems to be hidden.  

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soapblox bug? (0.00 / 0)
why does it say 9 comments, but only 3 show up?

Kedron, More comments were here earlier (3.00 / 1)
They were critical of the editor's note at the beginning attacking Nelda Spears, which is why I'm guessing the editor deleted them. Just a guess.

[ Parent ]
Wrong (0.00 / 0)
I'd like to correct your incorrect assertion. BOR allows users to rate other users comments (that box on each comment for those who are logged in). The community has the power to moderate and if a comment is below a certain threshold, it disappears along with those in reply to it.

As the site has grown, the editors of the site do not have time to patrol every single comment read.

I don't appreciate your knee-jerk assertion that everything is the editor's fault. This trend is getting very tiresome across the site.  

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[ Parent ]
ah (0.00 / 0)
I guess I'm used to slashdot-style moderation, where you can see the '-1's if you choose to.  

[ Parent ]
It's a mix (0.00 / 0)
If your comments in the past have been rated highly, you get extra options, a 0 and a 5. It's those "trusted users" who then have the ability to really moderate the comments to drop them below the threshold. Of course, you can loose that too. Trusted users can still see those comments that have been hidden, and other TU's can uprate them to bring them back into sight.

I'm sorry that my reply to Jane was a bit strong, but it's not been a pleasant week in the comments for BOR staff.  

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[ Parent ]
Non-Editor's Note (0.00 / 0)
It's "lose."

Don't worry KT, I'll get you guys learned in grammar one of these days. No BOR staffer left behind.


[ Parent ]
I have never been one to be good at spelling (0.00 / 0)
Thank goodness for automatic built in spell check in Firefox and Safari. I've never pretended to be good or care about perfect grammar. That I will be upfront about.  

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[ Parent ]
Translation: (0.00 / 0)
"We're not exactly Pravda, but we're working on it!"

but it's not been a pleasant week in the comments for BOR staff.

Awwwwww.......


[ Parent ]
you want to step forward (0.00 / 0)
I didn't see your application in the call for new writers. :)

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How many "trusted users" does it take to disappear a comment? (0.00 / 0)
   The BOR community seems a mite mutinous these days.  So here's a slogan for the editors to put on the wall:  "Beatings will continue until morale improves!"

   In the meantime, a question.  How many alleged "trusted users" can ding a comment and make it go away?   One?  Two?  A tiny elitist minority?  And the followup question:  How does this verdict by a couple of people, among a community of 2500+, comport with any idea of democracy?


[ Parent ]
Trusted user (0.00 / 0)
You only become a trusted user by having your comments highly rated by your peers. It's a form of self-moderation for the more active members of the BOR commenting community.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

[ Parent ]
Thank you, but you didn't answer my question (0.00 / 0)
   Phillip:   How many "trusted users" does it take to censor a comment?  And how is this democratic?

[ Parent ]
he won't answer it (0.00 / 0)
That's a site policy. Just like at DailyKos or Digg, the answers to those questions are not public information, lest people simple game the site, which is not the point of them. Plus, I do adjust the values at any given time to manage the number of TU's on the site, etc.  

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ive had pictures and videos (0.00 / 0)
DELETED by KT and Philip because "others are complaining about how long the site takes to upload."

and the very next day "trusted users" have posted the same material without them being erased. Im not a fan of double standards.


[ Parent ]
Re: (0.00 / 0)
I don't tend to delete that stuff unless it screws up the formating, is a double post, or indeed is very large in size. While you may notice things specifically, it is probably more an affect that any particular editor isn't policing every comment all of the time.  

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Apologies (2.50 / 2)
When I said "editor" I didn't really mean you specifically, I meant whoever is responsible for making comments disappear. I should have been more clear about that and thanks for the clarification.  "Trusted users" or not, I think everything that's been said here is within the realm of good political discourse and shouldn't be erased.

[ Parent ]
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