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TX-Sen: BOR Interview with Mikal Watts & Rick Noriega


by: Phillip Martin, Progress Texas

Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 09:00 AM CDT


The following are the responses from written interviews I conducted with both Mikal Watts & Rick Noriega. Any links or sources within the post are my own. Approximately half of the questions were my own, while the other half came directly from our BOR community. This is a very lengthy post, but considering the importance of the race, I hope you will indulge us. I would like to sincerely thank both campaigns for their participation, and mind all of our readers to remain respectful of each candidate.

1. What separates you from Mikal Watts/Rick Noriega? What makes you the better choice for voters in the Democratic primary?

Rick Noriega: Both Mikal Watts and I would be far better for Texas than John Cornyn, but that's setting a pretty low bar for performance.

I believe that Democrats will only be successful in so-called "red states" if we run a strong campaign and stand by our values and principles. Texans do not take well to candidates who parse language or aim to appease on the issues.

Mikal is a friend of mine, and deserves respect for the financial support he has provided to the Party.  The difference between the two of us, however, can be summed up in one word: service. For the nearly three decades I've devoted to serving in the military, including a tour of duty in Afghanistan, and the nearly ten years I've represented a working class community in the legislature, I have a history of walking the walk. My leadership has been tested. I've taken on the tough challenges - won some, lost some, but never backed away from a fight. I believe regular Texans, whether Democrats, Independents or Republicans, place more credibility in a candidate's words when the candidate backs up his or her words with action.

Mikal Watts: I'm running on my own strengths and qualities - new energy, new drive, new ideas - not against my fellow democrat. While we share similar views on many issues, I believe I will be best able to communicate my ideas to Texas voters that will achieve victory.

2. Both of you support an end to the war. Watts has stated he supports the Levin-Reed amendment to bring all troops home in six months. (Source). Noriega has stated he supports removing or repositioning two of the twenty brigades in Iraq per month, and he supports the Webb-Hagel amendment regarding soldiers' leave time (Source). However, both amendments recently failed in the U.S. Senate. What other options do you think are available in order to get the U.S. out of Iraq? Or is the only solution to elect more Democrats to the U.S. Senate and/or elect a Democrat President?

MW: Get our troops out of Iraq - period.

Only when our combat troops leave Iraq will that government make the tough decisions about its future.

My plan features three common-sense steps to bring our troops home and redirect the $3 billion we are spending every week in Iraq to what matters most - universal health care, improving public schools and access to college, protect American jobs from outsourcing, strengthening Social security, and other domestic priorities.

I believe many of the problems our country faces will be solved once we elect a Democrat as President and more Democrats in the Congress.

RN: I would approach the withdrawal of troops from the occupation of Iraq in three ways: 1)  Support amendments in the spirit of the Webb-Hagel amendment that redeploy troops on an clear and achievable timeline; 2) I would place strong and enforceable timelines in appropriations bills; 3) I would demand stronger diplomatic engagement, even if it meant putting James Baker and Bill Clinton on the same airplane, sending them to the region and keeping them there until regional stability is restored.

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3. It's one month before the general election, and you are appearing before Texas viewers in a highly publicized TV debate with Senator Cornyn. The moderator gives you thirty seconds to ask a single policy question to Senator Cornyn. What's your question?

RN: I would ask Senator Cornyn why he would continually capitulate to the president's henchmen and vote to deny health care to millions of American children, many of them Texans?

MW: Why do you repeatedly vote against extending S-CHIP for your constituents' kids on the grounds that it is a "government-run" program while you and your family continue to enjoy the benefits of the U.S. Senate's "government-run" health program?

4. A vote comes before the U.S. Senate, and you have to decide on whether to send R&D money towards coal-gasification technology to discover cleaner ways of burning coal at existing power plants, or renewable energy technology to discover better ways to harness wind and solar power. Which would you support and why?

MW: Renewable energy technology every time. We must convert our economy through the immediate "green technologies." While coal-gasification technology is better for the environment than the present uses of coal, it is not the long-term answer. Renewable energies are the long-term answers - both for the environment, for our national security and for new job creation.

RN: I will give priority to research in wind and solar energy.  But I can't envision a piece of legislation which solicits a vote based on an "either or" choice. If we really can invest in technology to reduce coals' pollution, then that is a very worthwhile investment. But it's naive to think that Congress would not, at another time, also vote R&D funding for wind & solar.

I believe we need to take aggressive immediate and long-range steps to reduce greenhouse gases.

5. Would you sponsor a bill favoring public financing of federal elections? If not, why not? If so, what model would you use to level the playing field for all candidates?

RN: I will strongly support legislation that reduces the influence of money in politics. We should start by improving transparency and accountability for donations under the current system. The problem is special interest influence, and we won't solve that problem until we have public funding of federal elections.

MW: Yes, but I believe this Supreme Court will strike down limitations for political speech expenditures. That being said, I would look at any reasonable proposition that would open up the process and encourage broader participation.

6. If elected the next U.S. Senator from Texas, what would be the first bill you filed? If you could choose a committee to sit on, what would it be (other than Appropriations)?

MW: My first bill would be to provide for a VA hospital in the Valley and in El Paso. I would also immediately go to work on providing universal health care, which I consider the moral challenge of our day. The committee I would choose to sit on would be Energy and Natural Resources.

RN: If we are still without a plan for orderly withdrawal from Iraq in January 2009, I will immediately introduce or co-sponsor a bill to implement a timeline to get our troops out in an orderly and responsible fashion.

As the Chairman of Budget & Oversight for the Defense Affairs & State-Federal Relations Committee in the Texas State House and a veteran, I have worked tirelessly to ensure that our veterans are treated with the respect they deserve when they return home from combat. In that vein, I would be especially interested in working on the Veterans' Affairs Committee in the United States Senate.

7. Where do you stand on the Trans-Texas Corridor? How do you intend to fund our transportation infrastructure needs? Do you support the current "toll everything" policy or would you instead consider raising/indexing the gas tax?

RN: I oppose the Trans-Texas Corridor because of the large price tag, as well as the land use, environmental, and eminent domain impacts of the project. It is an extraordinary price to pay for a project whose goals can be met through other more reasonably priced means. We must find ways to improve our infrastructure by considering feasible expansions of mass transit, but we cannot do so in a fiscally irresponsible way.

MW: I am against tolling existing roads, against confiscating personal property to help a foreign company's bottom line, and against secret no-bid contracts to transfer public wealth into private hands. I am for any comprehensive plan that promotes mass transit, energy independence, and a reasonable solution to our traffic gridlock.

8. (For Rick Noriega) As a state representative, you authored legislation allowing certain illegal immigrants to receive in-state tuition rates at state schools.  Do you think that your position on the issue will hamper your ability to attract the independent and moderate Republican voters that the Democratic nominee will need to win the general election?

RN: I do not doubt that Republicans will attempt to distort support of the DREAM Act. The basic principle that motivated me to support the DREAM Act is to not penalize children for the circumstances of their parents. The reason we were able to garner almost unanimous support (142-1?) in the House and Governor Perry signed it into law was because we built a coalition that touted the need for economic development and growth. That meant that expanding our state intellectual capacity while protecting the taxes we had already invested in our children was a good deal.

But we can't forget that these are also children who graduated from Texas high schools and lived in Texas for at least three years. The Supreme Court has ruled that we must educate them in our public schools, and after making such a significant investment, we owe it to ourselves to allow them the opportunity to pay back this debt as productive taxpaying members of society.

Prior to the DREAM Act, it was all but impossible for these students to afford a college education. Their parents pay taxes despite their undocumented status and their children succeed in school. In this way, we develop candidates for college education, produce powerful future contributors to the economy, and create attractive applicants for legal permanent residence. We should not penalize them for something that is outside of their control.

In the end we can be proud that about 10,000 Texas children have accessed college because of this law and 8 other states followed Texas' lead.  This is a bad thing?  However given the history of our current leadership, I am sure that this too will be used as a wedge issue to attempt to divide us as Texans rather than unite us.

8. (For Mikal Watts) When I asked our readers for questions, twelve different people asked me about your stance on abortion (according to the DFT questionnaire, you are "opposed to abortion except in cases of rape and incest, and when the life of the mother is at risk"). Do you think that your position on the issue will hamper your ability to attract the necessary voters that you will need to win the primary, even if your position is more palatable to general election voters?

MW: No. I believe the Democratic primary voters in Texas will vote for a candidate who is honest with them, even if they disagree with that candidate on a particular issue. Texans care most about getting our troops out of Iraq and using those dollars on health care, education, jobs and strengthening Social Security. That focus will win both the primary election and the general election.

9. To date, the media narrative for the Democratic primary has been that Watts has the money to win, but Noriega has the profile to win. Whether that's a fair assessment or not, that's the narrative. (For our part on Burnt Orange Report, we intend to challenge that narrative, as we think it's less the reflection of the truth and more a reflection of lazy journalism). How do you intend to counter that narrative during your campaign?

RN: I agree that I have the experience and the profile to win this race. As it turns out, I have the necessary resources as well.

MW: Ideas win campaigns. My campaign will continue to communicate my ideas for change to all Texans.

10. Texas Democrats haven't won a statewide race in over a dozen years. One argument is that we haven't won because our candidates who had the name ID and/or money to compete spent too much time playing to moderates. Let's assume you win the primary. How do you intend to reach out to enough moderates and independents in Texas to win in November without losing the grassroots support of progressive Texas Democrats?

MW: A winning campaign strategy is one that addresses the mainstream values of middle-class Texans who are getting squeezed by the failed policies of this Administration. Democrats, Independents and some Republicans all now understand that we must invest in our people - health care, education, jobs, strengthening Social Security. Reaching out to moderates and independents with that message should not cost us a single vote from a progressive Texas Democrat.

RN: I believe that Texans from all walks of life will respond to my record of service and integrity. I'll leave it to the pundits to pontificate on who in Texas is where on the political spectrum. Then I'll ignore what the pundits say, tell Texans the truth from my heart, and win the election.

11. In the event that you do not win the Democratic primary, do you pledge to actively campaign for the eventual Democratic nominee so that Texas can replace John Cornyn?

RN: Obviously, I would not be running if I did not think that I am the best candidate for the job. With that said, I will do whatever it takes to defeat John Cornyn. I have seen how deeply John Cornyn has hurt this state by preferring political games over real representation and I will help him enjoy an early retirement regardless of the outcome of the primary.

MW: Yes.

12. What is your greatest political regret?

MW: I have said before that the biggest mistake I made and one that I regret the most is that I was part of an organization, TTLA, and helped raise $3.5 million dollars for Democratic State House and Senate candidates in 2006. I concurred with a strategy that targeted only 6 house districts in the state. Although we were very successful in electing Senator Carlos Uresti and Representatives Juan Garcia, Ellen Cohen, Allen Vaught and others, we should have taken on more Republicans in districts across the state and then the Democrats would have won more seats. In 2008, we should encourage Democrats to take on races across the state. Only when voters are presented with viable choices will true change take place.

RN: In 2003, only one member of the Texas House, Lon Burnam, voted against Tom Craddick for Speaker.  I was wrong on that vote and I regret it.

Yes or No Questions

How would you vote on these actual bills?  A "yes" vote indicates support, a "no" vote indicates you don't support. Feel free to explain any of your "votes" below, though it is certainly not required. Note: All of these bills were mentioned in questions received from readers of BOR.

  • Kennedy/Kyl immigration reform bill?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: Yes.

  • Ratification of Kyoto treaty?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: Yes. I would have supported full US engagement in Kyoto if I had been in the Senate, but the time has passed for implementing policies that would push us to meet the terms of Kyoto. What we must now focus on is creating a new international binding agreement that recognizes that every country must be enlisted to cut their greenhouse gas emissions to ensure climate stabilization.

  • Granting District of Columbia voting rights in Congress?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: Yes.

  • Ban on cities suing gun manufacturers?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: No. Yes* (see Rep. Noriega's comment below)

  • Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (HR 1592)?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: Yes.

  • Employee Non-Discrimination Act?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: Yes.

  • Global Warming Pollution Reduction Act?

    MW: Yes.
    RN: Yes.

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For the record... (5.00 / 2)
My questions were #1, 2, 3, 6, both of #8, and 9. Our readers filled in the policy questions so well, I let them ask what they wanted.

Thanks again to both candidates for their participation!

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


That was genuinely useful. Thanks for sponsoring the Q&A forum. (5.00 / 2)


Great work, thanks! (5.00 / 1)
Either one of these guys will make Texas proud in the Senate. Their differences in policy are not so far apart when compared side by side.

Well done, Philip. (5.00 / 1)
Very informative.

Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

Yes, thank you (0.00 / 0)
for the interview.  It confirms why I support and will continue to support Mr. Noriega.  His answers and comments were those of a real and gifted leader.

Finally (4.00 / 2)
Phillip, thank you for doing this interview.  I think this type of post is a perfect example of the best of the texas net roots.  You have provided important information that will allow us to have an informed discussion about this primary.  I feel that lately many of the blogs have beocme forums simply for consultants (and wannabe consultants) dissiminating attack language.  Thanks for elevating the debate.  Hope you're enjoying school so far.

I am (0.00 / 0)
Though we're approaching mid-term time, which has meant a paper, a twenty-minute presentation, two homework sets, and about 300 pages of reading all for this week. But it's all worth it (or at least it better be, for what I'm paying).

That being said, it's also very enjoyable to be able to still do work like this for my home state. The BOR community has definitely eased in the moving away concerns I had....

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.


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Tell me about it... (0.00 / 0)
Finals don't start until December and yet I started outlining today.  Oh to be back in my state provided ergo-comfort chair eating free lunch... 

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Outstanding (0.00 / 0)
Great job, Phillip. 

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

Very Well Done (0.00 / 0)
  You covered a lot of ground in two well focused and informative interviews.

Excellent Job (0.00 / 0)
One cannot help but imagine how Cornyn would have answered these questions.  I look forward to supporting either one of these guys in the general election.  Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to do this fine job.

Ban on cities suing gun manufacturers question (0.00 / 0)
Dear BOR Friends,

I wanted to correct one of my answers in the Yes or No section in the interview with Phillip Martin.  On the question: "How would you vote on an actual bill creating a ban on cities suing gun manufacturers?"  I misread it, and want to make clear that I would vote Yes on a ban on cities suing gun manufacturers.

Indeed, I voted Yes for Senate Bill 717 in 1999 which did ban cities from suing gun manufacturers.

I did also support an amendment that would have allowed lawsuits to be brought if citizens of a city voted to bring suit in a local referendum, or if a member of the legislature filed suit on behalf of the city. These amendments would have still allowed lawsuits when there was a clear consensus by the public of the severity of weapons-related problems.

Thank you,
Rick Noriega


What am I Mising? (0.00 / 0)
This was the most surprising question to me.  I really don't know much about this issue.  Actually it was Watts' answer that most surprised me and now you are joining ranks so I'm guessing that there are aspects of this that I don't understand.

First of all - and this is why Watts' answer seemed odd - why would we want to restrict the authority of, or faith in, our judicial system.  While everyone has by now become well versed in the "we are an overly litigious society" truism, is this really the fault of the judicial system?  Is it not possible that this is at least in part a byproduct of a political system unwilling to put limits on the profit motive, which is seldom subordinated to personal safety, common decency or even public health?

What if someone had restricted the rights of our public defenders to sue tobacco companies?  We would still have corporations addicting children to a lifetime, all be it shortened, of bad health and dependent consumerism.  Okay we do still have that, but our courts have been the source of greatly improved public health is this area.

Gun companies, through their powerful lobby the NRA, seem to have earned carte blanche to dump their deadly product onto American streets.  They are making huge profits and kids are dying.  That the majority of these kids are from minority and economically disadvantaged families suggests that this is an issue of not so subtle cultural racism, or at least classism.  Kill a few rich white kids in Columbine and the whole country is wrapped in concern; kill thousands of kids on the disadvantaged streets of America and we are still willing to restrict the ability of our communities to hold those most responsible accountable for their actions. Protecting our children, community values, faith in our judicial system, it would seem that these are issue that Democrats should stand strongly on.

My view is strictly from the big picture.  I fully expect that there are details that might influence this perspective.  I hope that both Mr. Watts and Mr. Noriega will provide follow up information on this issue.  I greatly appreciate the spirit in which they have answered this survey.  Despite our differences, I think that we can all be proud to have these Democrats ready to represent us.


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For the record (0.00 / 0)
I am not familiar with this issue -- this was reader submitted. Let me see if I can find out who submitted the question and prompt them to possibly explain it further.

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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Good Job (0.00 / 0)
on including this question.  I had said that this was the most surprising question; actually what I meant was that these were the most surprising answers.  Hopefully we will learn a lot from this discussion.

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Thank you for your (0.00 / 0)
honesty and for your service, Mr. Noriega.

The "Deal Breaker".... (5.00 / 1)
..for me with Watts is his "anti" position on Choice.  There's no way I'd support a candidate who doesn't realize that being against a woman's right to choose is a violation of her civil rights. Shame on him.

Me too, sort of (0.00 / 0)
I'm with you on this.  It is a total deal breaker for me too.  In my questioning of Noriega's taking money from Bob Perry and his wife's explanation for taking some of that money, some assumed that I am a Watts supporter.  But the fact is that I was uninterested in Watts campaign because I knew that there was no threat of me supporting him in the primaries due to this one issue. 

But I do differ from your perspective in that I don't see shame in Watts' position.  He is dead wrong, but he is wrong due to bad logic, not due to a bad heart.  I reserve shame for those who are guided by ill-will and deception.  Watts and most other anti-choice people are guided by the exact opposite, which I would like to think makes them more like us than unlike us.  Also Watts has not backed away from his unpopular position or tried to spin it as something that it is not.  He has been direct and to the point.  I respect that.  At first I wondered if I would be able to bring myself to vote for an anti-choice candidate, even against Cornyn.  There are just some boundaries that one does not cross.  But after meeting him and talking about this issue with him, I would have no problem voting for him in the general election.


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Personally I will cast a write in vote for... (0.00 / 0)

...a Dallas, Harry Hines Blvd. hookers before I would vote for either of the three dittoheaded/rubber stamping Cornyn, Hutchinson or Barton.

In my opinion if we're going to elect whores to run our nation and state we may as well vote for real whores that don't lie to us and try to hide out with others in collusion in what used to be a decent political pary to cover up their lies and other deceit.

Nobody could force me to vote for those three cretin miscreants at the point of a hair-triggered gun.

Just like bush, I don't see how any of them got elected if it weren't for the gross gerrymandering of our voter districts to ensure right wing candidates got elected and outright right wing owned right wing biased vote rigged machines where we never get a hardcopy receipt of how we vote.

And that my friends is why I vote with an absentee ballot that I copy for my own records before I send it off by certified mail return receipt requested....which any Texas voter can do if they don't trust the currently owned republican party voting machines.

Shed your politcal party skins and think for yourself...you'll find it much more refreshing than sucking on the tailpipe of a political party propaganda machine.


The man must be stopped (0.00 / 0)


Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

[ Parent ]
Phillip (0.00 / 0)

Don't you believe in the freedom of speech and the right to discent against what one thinks is a wrong.

Rather than sit back and make terse criticisms debate me on this subject or any other subject, give your personal wisdom on subject in counter.

I have just as much right to make a post and state my mind as you have to sit on the sidelines in disagreement and make inane back door critiques of what I have to say, like saying "this man must be stopped" without saying why you think I should be stopped.

That's what this country is all about or have you forgotten about the 1st Amendment to our Constitution.

You also have another right fellow blogger...to not read my posts and replies that you are sitting on as self appointed judge, jury, and wannabe executioner and let other readers in the blog judge for themselves what they wish to read and comment on or not.

Shed your politcal party skins and think for yourself...you'll find it much more refreshing than sucking on the tailpipe of a political party propaganda machine.


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Um (0.00 / 0)
I wasn't saying you must be stopped. Your comment seemed a little over the top, and I meant "The Man" as in "The Government."

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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