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Dishonesty Within Kinky's Campaign (Part 1)


by: stopkinky

Thu Sep 14, 2006 at 11:47 AM CDT


I. Why Kinky’s campaign cannot be trusted

Kinky’s campaign has a history of telling different audiences whatever they want to hear.  That’s called pandering, and it is generally not widely respected in adult discussions of politics.

Kinky originally thought that he could run his campaign without addressing many substantive issues.  How do I know this?  Because Kinky said so:

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"I'm not serious about some issues," Friedman said.  … getting beyond the quips to learn details of what Friedman would do as governor on critical matters could be a challenge.

"I favor remember the Alamo," Friedman said when asked about his stance on immigration.

Friedman said he had no "specific plans" when it came to the issue in Texas.

"I can give you, 'Oh, I'd do A,B, C and D;' that's nonsense," he said..…

"No, we'll take it under review," Friedman said when asked if he had a plan or feeling on how the state might help out local taxpayers who are bearing costs such as the $22 million Dallas residents spend a year at Parkland Memorial Hospital on illegal immigration health care.

Texas homeowners pay the highest insurance rates in the nation. Yet, as the interview went on, Friedman was low on details to cut them.

"I'd get the career politicians," he said when asked what he would do to lower homeowner insurance premiums. "I'd kick their [expletive] out of politics. That's what I'd do."

But while kicking politicians out, Friedman said he would like to put back in the Ten Commandments and mandatory prayer for students in Texas public schools despite court rulings to the contrary.…

"All the little issues you're talking about are all (expletive)," he said. "It's all (expletives). That's the key. Okay, I mean, you can talk about, 'And I would deregulate this; and my plans is to give a seven percent raise on the textbook.' It's all (expletive) because the people who are doing this are crooks and they're corrupt and they don't give a (expletive) about the people of Texas."

This disdain for telling people what he would actually do as governor lies at the heart of Kinky’s campaign. 

Kinky’s belief that he didn’t have to address substantive issues is why he spent the first year of his campaign answering every question about abortion with the line "I'm not pro-life, and I'm not pro-choice. I'm pro-football!"

Yet when Kinky is later cornered into telling Texas voters what he would do about abortion, he has no clue:

"Are Texas laws too restrictive for adult women? Would you favor adding new restrictions or repealing current ones? 
Friedman: I have mixed feelings on parental notification. On the counseling requirement, I'm not sure, but I know the less I talk to social workers, the better. No issue with the public-funding restrictions, but I would want to investigate further."

Kinky’s lack of any fundamental understanding of issues which are important to many Texas voters is a problem (not you or Kinky, but those of us who have been voting in Texas for at least a decade).  This is why Kinky pledged on Dan Patrick's right-wing talk radio program that he would not veto Patrick's "trigger bill" to make abortion illegal in Texas immediately upon any reversal of Roe v. Wade by the US Supreme Court.  He said that because he doesn’t know any better.

The reason why Kinky’s campaign told you a different story than Kinky told Dan Patrick’s huge radio audience is because Kinky’s internet campaign is reaching out to moderate voters while Kinky courts the far right wing.  Kinky and his campaign put out conflicting messages all the time.  Kinky tells right-wing audiences he’s an anti-abortion, anti-immigration, Bush-voting, pro-war, pro-death penalty, pray-in-school conservative and Kinky and his internet campaign tells a moderate or progressive audience that Kinky is a pro-choice, pro-immigration-amnesty, anti-death penalty, Gore-voting, Ann Richards-voting moderate.

One of these views is a lie.

Kinky’s pattern of telling different audiences the opposite story about various issues is a result of this fundamentally anti-substance vacuous campaign.

This is why Kinky tells regular folks "I am not anti-death penalty."

But Kinky tells advocates against the death penalty "Let's do away with the death penalty."

This is why Kinky’s campaign will issue a press release saying " Kinky Friedman today said he ... supports a portion of the House bill, which calls for the construction of 700 miles of security fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and which would make illegal immigration a felony."

But when someone questions Kinky about it, Kinky says "he never called immigrants felons, calling a reporter ‘full of (expletive)’ before apologizing... a spokeswoman said the initial statement was posted erroneously."

This is why Kinky’s campaign will file an ethics complaint asking "Travis County prosecutors to investigate Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn for possibly misusing state employees to help her campaign."

But a week later you hear Kinky blame his staff with the announcement that "Kinky Friedman on Saturday disavowed the criminal complaint that his campaign for governor filed against independent rival Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, but Friedman declined to withdraw the complaint or apologize to Strayhorn."

Most problematically, this is why Kinky you see Kinky give interviews like this

"Who did you vote for in 2000? 
Friedman: I voted for Gore then."

When the truth is, "According to Kerr County voting records, Friedman voted in the 2004 presidential general election but not in any other contest since 1994."

I am not the LEAST BIT SURPRISED that Kinky’s campaign manager told you the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Kinky told Dan Patrick’s very large and very conservative radio audience.  I would be surprised if Kinky went back on Dan Patrick’s show to retract his support for Dan Patrick’s proposed anti-abortion trigger law.

II. "A Negro talking to himself"

You have deliberately sanitized Kinky's quote about punishing criminals by throwing them in prison and making them listen to a Negro talking to himself. 

On national television less than a year ago, Kinky was asked how he would punish criminals, and Kinky said:

"Throw them in prison and throw away the key and make them listen to a Negro talking to himself."

You attempt to defend Kinky's racist quote by misquoting Kinky.  You pretend that the controversy is about a quote from a book Kinky wrote back in 1993, when Kinky said "As a general rule of thumb, however, if you thought of New York as a Negro talking to himself and of California as a VCR with nothing to put in, you wouldn't be too far off the mark."

This quote is from a fiction book that Kinky wrote. Nowhere in the quote you defend is Kinky talking about punishing criminals by throwing them in prison and making them listen to a Negro talking to himself.  This might be the original source for the recycled material Kinky was spinning on the CNBC interview program, but the quote everyone is talking about is much more offensive.

Fortunately, the actual incident from November 8, 2005, is on video right here: link to video.

The question whether the word "Negro" is offensive or not is a question of context.  Yet even if you took the word "Negro" out of Kinky's quote it would still be offensive:  To punish criminals, "throw them in prison and throw away the key and make them listen to an African-American talking to himself."  That's STILL racially offensive.

The racially offensive context is the suggestion that having to listen to black people talking to themselves in prison is part of your punishment.  Why single out black people?  Why not say to punish criminals, "throw them in prison and throw away the key and make them listen to an Anglo talking to himself"?  Why not say to punish criminals, "throw them in prison and throw away the key and make them listen to a Latino talking to himself"?  Why not say, to punish criminals, "throw them in prison and throw away the key and make them listen to a Jew talking to himself"?  Singling out black people in this context is offensive.

This is a racially offensive context.  When making a racially offensive comment, the deliberate choice of the word "Negro" magnifies the insult.

When you defend Kinky's racist behavior by deliberately quoting a different statement from the quote which is at the heart of the controversy, your behavior is dishonest.

III.  "Tar baby"

Perhaps you are too young to understand why the phrase "tar baby" is considered offensive by some.  Here's a history lesson:

Local historian and Pinellas County Schools curriculum specialist Randy Lightfoot said ... Tar Baby .... gained a negative connotation during the period of American slavery. The nickname was given to African children living on slave plantations. It was a degrading term that implied a lack of intelligence and uncivilized behavior, he said.

"Tar Baby was used to signify blackness," he said. "In those times, all of the black things were considered bad."

Lightfoot said the term has lost many of its negative connotations for today's young people, but it is offensive to many older people who know the history of the expression.

"For those who know what it means, Tar Baby is very offensive," he said.

You will not doubt say that this is just a question of "political correctness."  Let me disagree in advance with that strawman argument. 

This is more a question of "political wisdom" than "political correctness."  If you are running for office, it is at the very least foolish to pepper your speech with terms that a large segment of the voting population considers a racially offensive.  Whether or not you are personally offended by the gleeful use of terms like "tar baby" and "negro," you should be able to understand that many voters find those terms racially offensive.  Any candidate who wants support from those voters would be wise to eschew casually offending such voters.

Among black voters, Kinky has less than half the support as the widely distrusted and disliked incumbent.  This lack of support stems from Kinky's lack of political wisdom.

Whether or not Kinky is politically incorrect is far less relevant than the demonstrable fact that he is politically unwise.  And wisdom is a trait to be prised in politicians, not disparaged.

IV. Black "thugs and crackheads"

If I wanted to show the empty core of your values, I could do no better than to quote your own statement that "the truth hurts."

On a related topic, I'll be posting a separate discussion about Kinky's latest campaign lie.

V. Tejano protestors just "playing hooky"

I did see the protestors.  I marched with them.  I saw none who were just "playing hooky."

VI. Kinky will not get my vote in any event

I agree that the top priority should be defeating Perry.  Kinky's chances of success are zero so he doesn't factor into the equation.

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"StopKinky," If that's your real name. (0.00 / 0)
Wow.  Your post lights up like the stip in Vegas.  Atleast you post the links so people can read your deliberate mis-interpretations. 

I do not speak for the Kinky Friedman Campaign at all.  I've met Kinky a couple of times, met a couple people involved with the Bexar Co. office, but I'm doing this on my own.  I started this before I met anyone.  These are just my rants and my opinions about stuff I read online, information I can gather from the campaign, groups.  I put myself on the line, with the intentions of inspiring people to give this man a shot.  I put myself out there for people to judge me, and so have you. 

Unforntunately, you have no accountability and a level playing field to spread the hate that's in your heart.  Is your hate for Rick Perry, or Kinky Friedman?  Show your face and name and city and be accountable. 

I am an American.  My parents are American.  We love our Mexican heritage, and most of the family are strong Democrats who vote.

My vote for Kinky Friedman is a vote on my belief that things will really change.  At this point, I'll take anything.  I don't care if things aren't organized, hire more organized people.  I really believe Kinky has the ablitity to moderate legislator agreements.  Plain and simple. 

The Gov. of Texas has little power, and his main power is the power of persuasion.

Scholars of the U.S. presidency often make the argument that the president's chief power is the power to persuade – to use the attention automatically paid the president to create what Teddy Roosevelt called a bully pulpit to build support for their priorities. It is even more crucial for the Texas Governor to exercise this kind of power. With limited real executive power placed directly in the governor's hands, those who occupy the governor's mansion in Austin must find indirect and informal ways to build on their limited formal powers. Governors must be able to utilize their public position as a figurehead – as the symbolic leader the public most readily identifies with state government – to influence politics and policy. Using personality and image in public media to build and maintain the loyalty of both voters and powerful political elites is the key to exercising this influence.

Not only the power to persuade, but being a "schmoozer", according to the late and great Ann Richards, is a HUGE part of being Governor of Texas. 

Kinky is one big schmooze who actually has some out of the box ideas to throw on the table.  He will have BBQ's and cigars at the Governor's mansion, and invite those who want to really fix Texas.  Read up the descriptive jobs and powers of the Governor of Texas, and vote according to who you think will best fill those shoes. 

Who will use his powers more like they're supposed to be used?  Whose whole campaign is based on "the bully pulpit," the job description, instead of of jib-jab about whose gonna do what, and whose gonna do this, and whose going to veto that? 

Whose campaign is mostly funded by the mass amount of small individual donations through campaign bumber stickers and t-shirts purchases.  This is real.  This is the spirit of Texas that Kinky plays off and is successful with little money and a lot of wit and common sense.  Using less to accomplish more.  Conservative yet Democratic. 

And a "negro talking to himself" prison thing.  I'd like to see the whole interview, because in the clip you reference, it seems that Kinky is being controversially politically incorrect about what he and Donny were just talking about, Kinky's belief, along with Bill Cosbey's and many others, that "negro is a charming word." 

He was of course referring to his book, that's what Donny asked him about, that exact quote.  They were talking and disagreeing about the word, "negro" being a charming word.

And I'm a Tejano, and I know what he said about those "Tejano teenagers" who where "half showing pride" and "half playing hookey," which they were.  The teenagers that skipped school to protest really didn't know the issues, as many interviews showed, because the schools don't teach anything but the TAKS. 

Let's step back and take a look at your objective, "StopKinky," if that's your real name. 

You say you're holding out for election eve to vote for Strayhorn or Bell, depending on who has the best chance to beat Perry, because you're supposedly against Perry.  But when I asked you if you would vote for Kinky if he broke away at the polls, you said no.  Hmmmm.  You don't show your face or name.  Hmmm.  I smell a rat.  You court Bell and Strayhorn supporters and smear your main opponent.  You're definately tricky and this is a "sticky situation," or should I say that "tar baby" that you're involved with is really tricky and dirty. 

YOU HAVE JUST BEEN EXPOSED.  This gal is a Perry rat. 

Go ahead and tell your people to eat a big one, and pack your bags.  This must be hard for you to digest, but Rick Perry will lose in November not because of the hatered and greed that brews in his administration, but because the "little fellers" finally have someone they can count on.

Bell supporters, demand that this "KeepPerry," I mean "StopKinky," character support Bell or shut the heck up. 

Don't take this attempt to spread dis-information lightly.  Follow up on this BOR.  I'm voting for many Dems downballot because that's where the real power is.

Rob Hinojosa TexasToday.org


You two both (0.00 / 0)
Go way too far sometimes...

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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I've been called a shill for Strayhorn and a shill for Bell, but you (0.00 / 0)
are the first to accuse me of being a shill for Perry.

This confirms many of my suspicions about your deductive powers and your level of reading comprehension.

You say I should "support Bell or shut the heck up."  Leaving aside the fact that this demand is peculiar, to say the least, from someone who does little but promote the right-wing candidacy of Kinky Friedman, you seem ill acquainted with this very website.

There is a feature on the main page called "recommended journals."  If you check out that feature, you will see a journal entry entitled "Good Reasons to Support Chris Bell by: stopkinky."  I posted this two days before you demanded that I "support Bell or shut the heck up."

If you read that journal entry, you might find some indication that I'm probably not a shill for the Perry campaign.  Here are some excerpts:


...I think our top priority must be to defeat Rick Perry in November....If you accept Strayhorn's current platform at its face value (and I understand that many do not), Strayhorn would be a marked improvement over Perry.

I believe that Chris Bell would be the best governor, and progressives need to work to make sure that he is in a position to win in November.

...here are some of the reasons why I think Chris Bell would be the best governor for Texas.

1. Bell is the only candidate who would work to repeal Texas' anti-choice abortion law which requires Texas doctors to misinform women about their reproductive health and the only candidate who has committed to vetoing Dan Patrick’s anti-choice trigger bill and who has a 100% pro-choice rating from NARAL,

2. Bell is the only candidate who has advocated for health care that would expand the prescription drug benefit without the current Medicare limitations and which would allow for prescription to be filled from Canada,

3. Bell is the only candidate who has called for homeowner's insurance rate rollbacks and who supports an audit of Texas Residential Construction Commission,

4. Bell is the only candidate who has actually voted in favor of raising the minimum wage and who has the AFL-CIO endorsement,

5. Bell is the only candidate who has actually voted in favor of equal marriage rights and co-sponsored equal marriage rights legislation,

6. Bell is the only candidate who hasn't been a cheerleader for Bush's Iraq foreign policy debacle and who has proposed state funding for $250,000 in life insurance for Texas National Guard combat soldiers and who has a 100% pro-peace rating from SANE,

7. Bell is the only candidate who respects the First Amendment's separation of church and state,

8. Bell is the only candidate who hasn't voted for Bush/Cheney,

9. Bell is the only candidate who has never run for office as a Republican and who hasn't flip-flopped with regard to his political party,

10. Bell is the only candidate who did anything to bring down the DeLay empire of corruption and who has passed laws against lobbyist abuses and the improper influence of undocumented political action committee money on public policy.

Chris Bell's personal history also says much about why he would be a good and effective governor for Texas.

From the beginning of his public service career on the Houston City Council and as chairman of the city’s ethics committee in the ‘90s, Chris Bell has fought hard for tougher ethics rules, anti-insider-lobbying regulations, and campaign finance reform to limit shady political action committee money in city elections.

In Congress, Chris Bell was an effective Democratic representative and so he was one of Tom DeLay’s top targets in the illegal mid-decade redistricting scheme that is now the subject of criminal investigation.  When other representatives stood on the sidelines while DeLay gerrymandered their districts, Chris Bell – with his history of fighting government corruption – filed a formal ethics complaint against DeLay. Chris Bell was the first representative in a decade to stand up to ethical abuses in Congress....

After the current administration, Texas will need a governor with a proven record of fighting against improper lobbying, campaign finance abuses, and outright corruption.

All I can say is this:

If I am a shill for Perry, Bell would stand a better chance of winning in November if we could only round up a few more shills for Perry.

P.S.  What is your take on Kinky's latest lie where Kinky told the Associated Press "I am not a racist, I am a realist. ... I never said what color their skin was. .... I'm smarter than that" just a few days after Kinky told Guillermo X. Garcia with the San Antonio Express-News "As it happens, the crackheads and thugs who remain in Houston after Katrina happen to be black; that's fact"?


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