OU Busted!

Re (5.00 / 1)

Yes, but is it news that OU cheats?

Not to me.  Not to me.

XT

Christian Liberal is NOT an oxymoron.

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by: Xpatriated Texan @ Wed Aug 02, 2006 at 23:20:12 PM UTC

I'm perfectly happy to gloat, but (0.00 / 0)

national champions? That's a bit of a stretch. Don't get me wrong; back-to-back titles would put a sh**-eating grin on my face for quite some time, but a lot of things are going to have to fall into place perfectly for that to happen.
Plus, they're not likely to get serious sanctions since they policed themselves.

But as to the rest of it, yeah -- heh, heh, heh

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by: davew @ Wed Aug 02, 2006 at 23:53:50 PM UTC

Texas football is back (5.00 / 1)

davew,

Before Vince's Rose Bowl turned the football world upside down, I might have agreed with your somewhat pessimistic attitude.

But we're the national champions now.

Everything has changed.  Yes, "a lot of things are going to have to fall into place perfectly for that to happen."  But the pundits said that same shit last year.  It's only August.  Let's give ourselves the luxury of hope.

As a native Austinite, I felt like I was the southern version of a BoSox fan.  But then the BoSox won the World Series in 2004.  And then the 'Horns won the greatest game in all of college sports in 2005. 

I was in the airport the next morning after the Rose Bowl, and the most random people were coming up to me an complimenting on the greatest game they had ever seen.  Janitors.  Rental car attendants.  Airline front desk clerks.  It was awesome!  Of course, I had nothing to do with the Rose Bowl victory...but I still took credit.  I bleed orange, and I'm not afraid to say it. 

We're the fucking champs! 

Let's not forget that.  It's not a stretch to say that we'll repeat when every national magazine is putting us in the pre-season Top 5.  Now that OU is off  track, we have A VERY REASONABLE CHANCE TO WIN IT ALL AGAIN.

C'mon folks.  We've suffered for over 30 years before we won the national championship.  Let's enjoy it. 

Let's look at this with a glass half full attitude.  If we lose to Tech, then I'll bitch.  But I'm predicting we'll be in a BCS bowl, and don't be suprised if our entire Longhorn network is so strong that we can win the national championship even though we have a quarterback who's never taken a snap.

You may be right that OU won't get serious sanctions because they policed themselves.  But let's not water down what OU has done.  They broke every rule in the book.  They paid their players.  They cheated.  If the NCAA doesn't come down hard on this bullshit, then so be it.  We'll win anyway.  We're Texas.

But it sure is a good day in Longhorn Nation when our chief rival goes down in flames because they felt the need to cheat to beat us.

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 02:59:24 AM UTC

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not pessimistic (0.00 / 0)

Look, I've been a passionate Longhorn fan longer than most of the people who read this blog have been alive. I'm a native Texan. I'm a UT grad. I remember when Darrell Royal introduced the wishbone, for God's sake. I know all too well we've suffered for over 30 years, so back the hell off. I know we're the fucking champs; it was the greatest game I've ever seen, too. I'm enjoying the shit out of this, at least as much as you. 

I'm just being realistic. Yes, OU is off the track. That means barring catasrophe, we'll win the Big 12, so yeah, we'll be in a BCS bowl. Plus, I'm not saying a national championship is out of the question, just that it's going to be really difficult, a lot more difficult than last year, where we started the season ranked number 2. Top 5? Which magazines are you reading? Most the ones I've read (and that's quite a few) have us around 6 or 7. We're going to have to pass a lot of teams to get there, and that's the hardest thing to do. Once the sportswriter-pollsters make up their minds about numbers 1 and 2, it's awful hard to dislodge them unless one of them loses.

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by: davew @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 14:06:38 PM UTC

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I'm glad you bleed orange (0.00 / 0)

And I'm glad you're being realistic.  We can't win the national championship every year. 

But we can hope.  That's why August is fun.  Every team has a chance.  And especially this year, we should walk around with a little swagger.  For too long, Texas fans have been negative.  I've been going to games all my life, and if there's one consistent thing, it's the ability of Longhorn fans to be pessimistic.  I've been proudly predicting a national championship ever since Mack took over, and now it's a reality.  We've finally earned the right to talk some shit.  Let's enjoy it.

If Texas beats OSU and OU, and wins the Big 12 undefeated, then the BCS voters have to let the defending national champions into the big dance.  I hate the BCS, and I'm ready for the playoffs.  But it would be unconstitutional for the BCS voters not to give us the chance to defend our title.  It doesn't matter how many teams we have to leapfrog from the preseason rankings.  I have full confidence in the Burnt Orange Nation's ability to mobolize grassroots support across the country to get Texas in the Fiesta Bowl.

Admittingly, I'm over-excited about the 'Horns right now because I got to see Mack Brown in person yesterday for the "Texas Monthly Talks" series.  Mack is the man.  It's abundantly clear to me that Texas will dominate college football as long as Mack is around.  If I were a blue chip recruit, I'd want to play for Mack.  He's the ultimate politician.  He answers every question with the right amount of humilty and humor.  He talks about the importance of taking care of high school coaches.  He talks about how he doesn't sign a kid until he meets their mom and dad.  He got into coaching because he loves helping kids achieve their dreams.  He didn't take credit for the national championship and instead praised the whole Longhorn family.  And he even showed class by not taking the bait when Evan Smith started off the interview with a question about OU and Rhett Bomar.  I've been jumping up and down for the last 24 hours because OU has been caught for being the Barry Switzer cheaters that they are, but Mack managed to keep his composure and not take a cheap shot.  It just goes to show that Mack handles himself in a genuine manner, and obviously our Texas players respond to that positive attitude.

You're right that we're starting off this year ranked #6 or #7 in preseason.  But that's essentially Top 5.  So, we're in the hunt.  If I may, let me error on the side of optimism and be the first to proudly predict that UT will repeat as national champions.  The national pundits have no idea how deep our team is.  The next 10 years will truly be the golden era of Longhorn football.  And if we can convince Major Applewhite to come back and take over once Mack retires, we could be looking at a generation of Texas dominance.

Hook 'em!

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 15:59:06 PM UTC

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We're saying the same thing here... (5.00 / 1)

I take a back seat to no one in the  swaggering and talking shit department. I've been pissing people off about it. Plus, nobody hates the BCS more than me, and one of its major faults is that it doesn't give a good goddamn who the defending champion is.

Mack is the man. I especially liked his "Don't let this be the highlight of your life" speech before the Rose Bowl. You're right; everybody should want to play for this man. If I had sons, I'd want them to play for him. I said all along, and called it in to the radio talk shows, that those lousy frontrunning fans that wanted to fire him should shut the hell up.

We're back where we belong, consistently in the national title hunt. You were sounding like it was a lock is all I'm saying. I'm not one of those pessimistic fans; I'm excited as hell, especially about the second week in October. I'm ready to start a little 5 years in a row payback to those arrogant bastards from Norman. Nobody is hoping for back to back more than I am. Hope has been springing eternal in this human breast for many, many Augusts now.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, hopes you're right more than me. I want my friends and family to find me unbelievably insufferable next January. Then we'll be talking three-peat, and you'll be having to calm me down, because we'll have an experienced QB and a shitload of returning starters on both sides of the ball.

Hook'em

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by: davew @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 19:53:16 PM UTC

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Agreed (0.00 / 0)

Well said.

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 23:00:58 PM UTC

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Coaches Poll (5.00 / 1)

You wrote: "Top 5? Which magazines are you reading?"

The Coaches Poll has us at #2. :)

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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by: Phillip Martin, Progress Texas @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 at 16:06:38 PM UTC

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color me surprised (0.00 / 0)

I just saw that. To tell the truth, it surprised the hell out of me; brought a grin to my lips, but certainly surprised me. The only bad part is that it doesn't allow for any sneaking up when no one's looking stuff. ;)

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by: davew @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 at 17:22:21 PM UTC

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True (0.00 / 0)

But it's all on the Ohio State game, anyway. And I think we'll win -- because if we have a quarterback who is already saving lives, I've got to believe we can win.

Hook 'em!

Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

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by: Phillip Martin, Progress Texas @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 at 18:46:54 PM UTC

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The QUESTION is... (0.00 / 0)

How much did he get PAID to save that life?? :)

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by: David O. @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 at 21:27:27 PM UTC

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Vrooooom (0.00 / 0)

Oh yeah and there's no free cars and the like in any of Mack Brown's programs? Riiiiiight. LOL.

There were way too many black Isuzu Rodeos of the same year and model being driven by UNC football players in the late 90s. Wonder where they got those without having a job? :)

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by: John McClelland @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 03:41:50 AM UTC

Whatever (0.00 / 0)

Last time I checked, this blog was called the BurntOrangeReport.com.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 06:50:36 AM UTC

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Double whatever and a half (1.00 / 1)

Last time I checked we talked about politics here. So if you want to bring up football, get ready to absorb the blows weenie boy :)

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by: John McClelland @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 20:05:52 PM UTC

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you never heard the term (0.00 / 0)

political football?

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by: davew @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 21:12:00 PM UTC

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Quick summary of BOR sports blogging (3.00 / 1)

"Last time I checked we talked about politics here."

Instead of responding with 3rd grade name-calling, I've provided you with a quick list of some BOR sports posts.  I'd keep researching more info for you, but I've already delayed my First Thursday booze plans long enough.

Indeed, these are good days to bleed orange.  I hope that the BurntOrangeReport continues to comment on sports in general and UT football in particular. 

Respectfully yours,
Weenie Boy

July 28, 2003 - It's Lance!
September 13, 2003 - Shit
October 01, 2003 - Huh? Rush Limbaugh at it Again
October 05, 2003 - Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win!
October 11, 2003 - Ouch
October 17, 2003 - I won't be watching
October 20, 2003 - Mavs Aquire Antoine Walker
November 27, 2003 - Cowboys stomped.
December 07, 2003 - Don't Cry for Me Oklahoma
January 24, 2004 - Damn! UT Loses...
February 03, 2004 - TiVo Users Like Janet's boob
February 09, 2004 - Back on Track
March 21, 2004 - Sweet 16, Baby!
March 21, 2004 - Upsets Abound; Texas to face Xavier Friday.
March 27, 2004 - Longhorns Lose
April 11, 2004 - Easter christians and the NBA Playoffs.
May 29, 2004 - Yay Pacers
June 23, 2004 - Back in the CWS Championship
July 21, 2004 - Lance Kicks Alpe d'Huez's Ass!
September 25, 2004 - Hook 'Em
September 28, 2004 - Baseball Blogging
September 29, 2004 - The National Past Time
September 30, 2004 - Keep Hope Alive
October 05, 2004 - If Bush had his way, the Astros would be at home tomorrow night
October 08, 2004 - The Okkies are up to it Again
October 09, 2004 - The Crimson and Cream Report?
October 11, 2004 - Full Crimsonification
October 11, 2004 - A Modest Proposal
October 12, 2004 - The Jinx
October 16, 2004 - Smile
October 20, 2004 - There is a God
October 21, 2004 - Nine Innings Away From Glory
October 27, 2004 - Red Sox Win!!
November 25, 2004 - I'm Thankful For Rich Alumni
November 27, 2004 - Poor Aggies
November 28, 2004 - I Demand A Recount In Ohio!
December 05, 2004 - Roses are Burnt Orange
December 08, 2004 - Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
December 22, 2004 - Ah, man that sucks
December 25, 2004 - Johnny Oates, R.I.P.
December 31, 2004 - Tech Shocks Cal in Holiday Bowl
January 01, 2005 - Rose Bowl Bound
January 01, 2005 - Cotton Bowl Round-Up
January 02, 2005 - Rose Bowl Thoughts
January 03, 2005 - Rose Bowl Pictures
January 04, 2005 - That's what I get for rooting for Oklahoma
January 06, 2005 - Rose Bowl Pictures
January 10, 2005 - Rooting for the home team
January 16, 2005 - New job
January 17, 2005 - #9 Texas 75, #6 Oklahoma State 61
January 19, 2005 - Football metaphors!
February 16, 2005 - Poor Aggies, Part #3
March 03, 2005 - Who's No. 1. We're No. 1!
March 03, 2005 - Who's No.1?
March 18, 2005 - An even lighter note
April 05, 2005 - The end of one season, the beginning of another
May 02, 2005 - Texas Golf
June 26, 2005 - Horns win College World Series Championships
June 27, 2005 - Important News
July 02, 2005 - Texas Finishes Second in Sports Academy Directors' Cup Division I
July 24, 2005 - Seven Cheers for Lance
September 03, 2005 - Texas Wins 60 to 3, TCU Bests OU
September 09, 2005 - When the Saints go marching out?
September 09, 2005 - Texas vs. Ohio State Predictions
September 17, 2005 - Texas Wins 51 to 10, OU loses to UCLA
September 22, 2005 - Baseball Blogging 2005
September 30, 2005 - Shall we blame Mack Brown, or shant we?
October 01, 2005 - Texas Wins 51-20 over Mizzou
October 02, 2005 - ASTROS WIN THE WILD CARD!
October 05, 2005 - Red River Rivalry Open Thread
October 08, 2005 - Texas Juggernaut Rolls Over OU 45-12
October 09, 2005 - 'STROS WIN!!! 'STROS WIN!!!
October 19, 2005 - World Series!
October 20, 2005 - Astros Are National League Champs
October 26, 2005 - This is the game that never ends...
November 01, 2005 - UT Women's Soccer
November 25, 2005 - Bring the pain
December 03, 2005 - This is getting boring; PLUS: Barton tackles the BCS
December 04, 2005 - UT vs. USC!
January 03, 2006 - Rose Bowl Open Thread
January 04, 2006 - Rose Bowl Open Thread
January 04, 2006 - Texas 41, USC 38
January 08, 2006 - Young to Enter NFL Draft
March 25, 2006 - Elite Eight Open Thread
June 22, 2006 - U.S. Out of World Cup

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 23:38:57 PM UTC

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A Sad Day... (0.00 / 0)

This is a sad day for America.  Bob Stoops did the right thing and got rid of two kids who broke the rules, even though it cost him a National Championship!  He should be commended, even if he does like James Dobson.  In fact, I respect the hell out of him as a person, he is a man of great Christian values and moral character, a great contrast to previous OU coaches.  Now I'm going to have to endure you all making fun of OU for another season!!! 

On a serious note, can we make it a Capital Offense to mess with OU football like this?  Gives a whole new meaning to the NCAA's "death penalty", heh?

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by: David O. @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 15:51:37 PM UTC

Yes, you'll have to endure this for another season (5.00 / 1)

and that's why college football is fun. 

There's few things I enjoy more than talking smack in Dallas to OU fans.  Nothing personal, just pure loyalty to my 'Horns.  In this spirit, I'll do my best to share with you as many of these photo-shopped images as I can find. 

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 16:39:29 PM UTC

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I live in Austin... (4.00 / 2)

So you will HAVE to do better than that pic, which I've already seen!! :)  Being an OU fan in Austin is the same as being a Democrat in Dallas! :)

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by: David O. @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 17:11:23 PM UTC

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You're brave (0.00 / 0)

It's hard to talk too much trash about A&M because we all have cousins and friends who made the wrong choice.  But it's pretty easy to make fun of OU. 

I certainly admire you courage in sticking up for your team here in Austin.  I hope you do some trashing talking in early October, and I'll be more than happy to respond in-kind.  I can't wait for Oct. 7th!

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by: Ian @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 at 23:44:33 PM UTC

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I can... (0.00 / 0)

Before this incident, I was anxiously awaiting it.  Now, not so much... :)

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by: David O. @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 at 01:06:42 AM UTC

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Yes (0.00 / 0)

We Dems in Dallas are a brave lot!

I Hate Dallas Blog
"Every reasonable human being should be a moderate Socialist."- Thomas Mann

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by: I Hate Dallas @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 at 16:50:53 PM UTC

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Wow (0.00 / 0)

one win over OU -- after however many losses (I lost track)

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by: v2aggie2 @ Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 03:57:12 AM UTC

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I think it was 5 years... (0.00 / 0)

Here's to hoping for another five...  I don't know what to think this year, OU just got devestated, but yet UT is obviously still a very mediocre team after the Crown Prince left. 

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by: David O. @ Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 16:08:06 PM UTC

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