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Vote for Both? Austin City Council Moves Toward Two Districting Plans on Ballot


by: Michael Hurta

Fri Jun 29, 2012 at 04:03 PM CDT


How Austin City Council Members Voted
on Competing SMD Proposals
Council Member 10-1 Plan 8-2-1 Plan
Lee Leffingwell No Yes
Sheryl Cole Yes No
Chris Riley Yes Yes
Mike Martinez Yes No
Kathie Tovo Yes Yes
Laura Morrison Yes Yes
Bill Spelman No No
Vote Total 5-2 4-3

At last night's city council meeting, the Austin City Council took a major step towards putting both the 10-1 and 8-2-1 city council districting plans on the November ballot. On a 5-2 vote, the Council approved putting the 10-1 proposal from Council Members Martinez and Cole onto the ballot. There was a 4-3 vote to put the 8-2-1 plan from Mayor Leffingwell on the ballot, as well. A second vote must be taken on this latter proposal when the council meets again in August, because a threshold of five votes was not reached. Check out our chart showing how they voted at the right.

Leffingwell's votes seemed to indicate that he's firmly on the 8-2-1 side while Martinez's and Cole's votes place them firmly on the 10-1 side. Everyone else appeared less fervently for one or the other. Spelman, however, voted against each item rather than for them.

(Read below the fold to see why!)

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KUT's report on some of last night's shenanigans probably gives an explanation.

After Young finished speaking and the applause died down, council member Bill Spelman posed a question. Positing that AGR's 10-1 proposal and the hybrid scenario were both on the ballot, how would Young steer the campaign?

"You're gonna put us in a position where you're gonna have the people's plan versus the politicians' plan, and it ain't gonna be pretty," Young replied.

"You said exactly what I expected you to say," Spelman countered. "But more importantly, you said what I expect would actually happen if the council did put an 8-2-1 plan on the ballot, and AGR did make the ballot as well."

As the council is considering ballot language stating that if both measures earn over 50 percent the top voter-getter wins, Spelman argued a rising tide lifted all boats.

"A very large plurality of the Austin public would be happy with either of these two," he said, "but the only way that any of these two will get more than 50 percent if they're both on the ballot, is if most of those people decide to vote for both of them. And what you're going to talk about doing, is going to make it much more difficult for those people who vote for both of them."

David Butts, arguing for 8-2-1, had a one-sided strategy just like Peck Young and AGR. "I'll be happy to sell our product," Butts said, "and well see who comes out on top."

But one side coming out on top only makes a difference if that side has over 50%. For that to happen, however, it is likely that Council Member Spelman is right. Many voters must vote for each proposal. Will a group arise to campaign to "Vote for Both," too?



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That makes sense to me (0.00 / 0)
If one definitely wants some geographic representation, but is indifferent as to the plan, then it makes sense to vote yes on both and see which plan might attract a majority or the most votes. There's a lot of speculation about what the voters will want, but giving them a couple of choices let's preferences be expressed with greater granularity.  

The one weird quirk is all the other language in the AGR petition that is likely to be the final language on the council's proposed 10-1 ballot.  The redistricting commission, the timing of elections, the transition and stagger.  Those might be details in that package that give some 10-1 proponents pause.  I wish it was a separate item instead of buried in there.

Perhaps the paradox of choice or basic confusion sets in with the two choices; but if the people of Alaska can write-in Lisa Murkowski, then I think we Austinites have a chance to properly educate the electorate on this one.

www.keepaustinwonky.wordpress.com + www.twitter.com/juliogatx


we have a chance, but... (0.00 / 0)
Do we have the money? I don't think so.

Further, it does make sense to vote yes if one definitely wants some geographic representation, but I think that describes you and me, not most voters. I'm willing to bet that most voters are indifferent to geographic representation at best -- otherwise, it would have passed one of the six other times.  

"Let us tenderly and kindly cherish therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write."  -  John Adams


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All or nothing? (0.00 / 0)
   I see why many people want geographic representation, but I also see why many others are worried that districts will lead to a Council that is weaker, more conservative, and more shortsighted, since it will not require that candidates develop a comprehensive view of the city's needs.  I do not want a structure that has no council seat except mayor open to someone who lives in a part of town that does not match their views or include much of their base constituency.  The 8-2-1 plan is a plausible balancing of these concerns.

   

Hunter Ellinger


"comprehensive view" (3.00 / 1)
Which current at-large members have a "comprehensive view" now?  

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Leffingwell voted against both? (0.00 / 0)
Didn't the Mayor pledge to support the CRC's recommendation?  

sorry, my mistake (0.00 / 0)
Lee voted for 8-2-1 and against 10-1, which was the CRC's recommendation.  

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I hope this doesn't doom SMD (0.00 / 0)
But I think it probably will.   I hope I'm wrong, but with both options on the ballot I don't see either clearing 50%.  

Thursday night was a victory for the status quo, and supporters of 8-2-1 and 10-1 both lost.

Do we have a chance? Sure. But the odds got worse, not better.


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