Jason Embry: "Do you mean, initially, or do you mean, it's your goal, by the end of the session, we're still not hitting the rainy day fund?"
Perry: "That would be my goal. Not tapping into the rainy day fund means not tapping into the rainy day fund."
Embry: "How strong of a line in the sand are you going to take on that? Are you going to tell these folks, 'Don't send me a budget that taps in the rainy day fund?'"
Perry: "Oh I think we've already said that. Do I need to take a chisel out there and chisel it into the side of the Capitol? I think everybody takes me at my word.
Pitts pressed, "Does that mean at some point you would agree to use some of the rainy-day fund?" and that Perry hasn't drawn a line "that you will never touch the rainy day fund?"
"Absolutely," Armbrister said. "We even talked about it with the governor, and he said, 'Yeah, I haven't drawn a line in the sand.'"