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May 20, 2004New FDA cootie rulesBy Jim DallasNew FDA rules will ban homosexual and bisexual men from making anonymous donations to sperm banks (Yahoo!):
I'm not sure the new rules are discriminatory on their face; the consensus in the medical community remains that the majority of men with HIV/AIDS were infected during or after having sex with another man. The CDC estimates that 62% of newly-diagnosed men were exposed in this manner. And while the evidence is not entirely solid, there seems to be cause to believe that this might actually be getting worse. So certainly, it's not unreasonable to believe that this should or would raise red flags. On the other hand, the same CDC documents suggest that the number of HIV-positive gay men is something like 195,000 in 2002.. Assuming that about 4.6 percent of men are gay or bisexual (the figure obtained by pooling the data from the 1998-2002 General Social Surveys), that would mean that there are approximately 6.2 million gay and bisexual men in America; and hence only about 3.5 percent of gay men are HIV positive. While this remains several orders of magnitude higher than the incidence rate among heterosexual men (approximately 100,000 estimated cases among roughly 130000000 straight men would imply an incidence rate of less than one tenth of one percent) , it must me pointed out that 96 percent of gay men are getting shut out without cause. And note that this figure (96 percent) is almost certainly an underestimate, since my estimate of 4.6 percent being gay is, well, most probably a low-ball estimate (since people DO lie in surveys). My problem with this ruling is not that the FDA seems to be giving the right answers; it's that they seem to be asking the wrong questions. Common sense (and science) dictate that the most relevant indicator of HIV infection is not whether the person you're having sex with is a man or a woman. A more relevant question is: how many people have you slept with? The most relevant question of all would be: do you actually have HIV/AIDS? Of course, that question is already asked -- but not necessarily validated with testing. Which is too bad, because testing is becoming cheaper and more reliable all the time. Blanket-banning whole groups of people is becoming less tenable. It seems to me that these new guidelines may make a miniscule reduction in the number of donations that slip through the cracks. But there are probably far more effective ways of insuring the safety of sperm (and blood, and organs) which do not smack of insensitivity. Honestly, If were a blood or tissue recipient, and I had to choose between knowing the FDA was banning gays, or knowing that everything was being tested, I'd feel a lot safer if I knew everything was being tested accurately. (Thanks to EphemeralNotion) Posted by Jim Dallas at May 20, 2004 04:29 PM | TrackBackComments
What! The government is trying to stop the movement of a sperm! My God! What's next? Condoms in schools? Spermicidel gels in bathrooms? We gotta stop those sperm! Stop those sperm! Wait. That's birth control. They're just trying to stop gay sperm, and the gay genes that come with the gay sperm. That's just engineering the species. Wait. You need stem cells to do that. Posted by: Keith G at May 20, 2004 05:13 PMI actually think this is far more sinster than one may initially think. Despite what the religious right wing-nuts say, it is axiomatic that "gayness" is hereditary. While the genomes are not precisely known, it makes sense that gay men breeding with gay women are more likely to produce gay children. What this policy does is make it more difficult to have gay men and gay women have children together, making it less likely to produce gay children. Some may say it is a calculated plot to exterminate gays over the long term. This "genocide" phenomenon is especially true when you consider that it is inevitable that fewer gay kids will be born by closeted gay men & women in heterosexual marriages as society becomes more tolerant of open gay relationships. If one accepts that it is more likely for a dominant gene (as opposed to recessive) in a parent to manifest its characteristic in offspring, it is only logical that many gays are born to closeted gays in straight marriages. The great irony is that as society becomes more tolerant, fewer gays will have kids in heterosexual marriages, and if gays are not to die out, they will need to breed, preferably with other gays to protect their numbers. This policy stabs a stake through any such attempt. I find it hard to be just coincidence. I think it is a part of a long term plot to exterminate gays. Posted by: WhoMe? at May 20, 2004 05:36 PMActually, I agree generally with the above post. This is about a sort of purifying of the gene pool. But, moreso, it is about furthering the a concept of society by exclusion. Remember, he's an Igniter, not a Divider. Posted by: Keith G at May 20, 2004 05:39 PMHm. I can't give blood because I lived in the UK during Mad Cow and took Malarial prophalactics. My odds of having Mad Cow Disease or latent malaria are a hell of a lot less than 3.5 percent. Seems like a reasonable decision. Posted by: blue at May 20, 2004 10:41 PMIIRC, they should also ban folks from Senator Kyle's (R-Taliban) office too. Look at the archives on Wonkette regarding Washingtoyenne. It makes the Perry rumors look like a Baptist picnic. Posted by: Matthew Saroff at May 21, 2004 11:34 AMBlue -- It may be, if you accept that this is the best way of looking at the question. As I suggest, though, there may be ways to narrow the scope of this regulation. I am neither a doctor or an epidemiologist; but it seems like 6+ million men is a lot of people to exclude. Posted by: Jim D at May 21, 2004 11:56 AMPost a comment
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